AJgoal Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Most of this is reposted from the Weber offer sheet thread, but I figured I'd throw it up in its own thread and adjust it to reflect current cap standings. Assuming I can edit the original post, I will make changes to the numbers as contracts are signed and players are acquired or traded.The Flyers are allowed to exceed the cap by 10% during the summer, for an offseason cap of 77.22 Million. The Flyers are currently at 66,643,373 With the following signed:Hartnell/Giroux/SchennSimmonds/Briere/ReadTalbot/Couturier/RinaldoWellwood/Fedotenko/ShelleyVoracekPronger (4.9 million, assuming will be LTIR)/TimonenGrosmann/CoburnMeszaros (4 million, LTIR)/SchennGervais/LiljaBartulis buyout: 100,000Now, you also have to include all players with one-way contracts at their full cap hit, and all players with two way contracts at a proration of the hit based on the number of games played for the big club the previous year when calculating the off-season cap number:Walker: 1.7 millionBourdon: 336,128 / 612,500 NHL SalaryGustafsson: 329,268 / 900,00 NHL SalaryZolnierczyk 281,707 / 600,000Manning:43,902 / 900,000Homstrom: 45,731 / 550,000Sestito: 40,243 / 660,000Offseason cap number: 69,421,102. This will be adjusted once two way contracts are cleared and players are waived to the AHL, and two way players are added to the big club.The Flyers can also get cap relief by putting Pronger and Meszaros on LTIR at the start of the season. This works by subtracting the Flyers available cap space from the player's cap hit on the day he is placed on LTIR. the Flyers will then get the remainder in an overage allowance. For example, if the Flyers have 2 million in cap space when Pronger is placed on LTIR, they will only be permitted to exceed the cap by 2.9 million dollars, NOT his entire cap hit. If they have 5 million in cap space, they get no relief. If they are right at the cap they will get his whole cap hit in overage allowance. The Flyers would likely wait until they are right up against the cap to put either player on LTIR.For those wondering about how the cap space situation works out, the Flyers have a bit more than 7.5 million they can add in contracts to the offseason cap. Once the season rolls around, that drops to a bit more than 3.55 million. However, if you assume they will place Pronger or Meszaros on LTIR, that usable cap space climbs again.Each day the Flyers will "bank" $19,189 in cap space if they don't add or subtract any salary during the season. Edited August 9, 2012 by AJgoal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 For the off-season, you also have to add the RFA qualifiers for Voracek, Z and Bourdon, pending their signing - and I *believe* they also have to have the money for Weber on rightnow pending the Preds decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 True, but I don't have those numbers in front of me. Once I do I will throw them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Man, if could just get Walker and Lilja off the books we would able to come reasonably close to getting Doan or Voracek signed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Walker 1.7 million and Lilja .73 million... Add in Prongers LTIR and it's enough...BUT, can't count the Pronger money yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Well, come the regular season Walker will be back with the Phantoms. Lilja counts wherever he plays, so they might as well keep him up. Gervais could be waived to Aidirondack come the start of the season.I forgot Walker was younger, so his actual money due is more than his cap hit. Kills my hope that he's traded to a cap-floor team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Lilja would need to be traded.I have no idea why Walker is still around.WAIVE SHELLEY NOWTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Lilja would need to be traded.I have no idea why Walker is still around.WAIVE SHELLEY NOWTMamen.. make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Updated with Harry Zolnierczyk's contract and QAs for Bourdon and Voracek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Updated with Voracek's new cap number and the Bartulis buyout, which I had factored in but didn't specifically call out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 @AJgoal - nice work, but isn't there an easier way?http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Jack,That's where I get my numbers from, but what that doesn't show you is qualifying offers and the offseason cap stuff. Besides, I was bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Jack,That's where I get my numbers from, but what that doesn't show you is qualifying offers and the offseason cap stuff. Besides, I was bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Updated with Bourdon's new contract. Laughton doesn't affect the cap. Offseason cap number actually went down with Bourdon re-signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I *still* do not believe the MAB number.Who has a qualifying offer for $850K and takes $612K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I don't either, but it's the report everywhere, including capgeek, who usually don't post stuff without confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I don't either, but it's the report everywhere, including capgeek, who usually don't post stuff without confirmation.'splainer is in the other thread - it's a one-way deal so he'll "take home" more money this way - regardless of where he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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