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How many of those points are in the finals? I'm not saying .79 PPG isn't a good contribution, but during his finals with us he scored 1 goal and another assist. Including those finals and moving beyond it? 6 points in 12 games. So yea, Both of them may be solid, but they often flame out in the finals and if it wasn't for the supporting cast, LAK wouldn't have been quite as dominate as they were that year.

The disappearing act that Carter/Richards do in the play-offs every single year would be more enough for me to have pause about paying them that much money.

I dunno Another lock-out might be good for the rebuilding Flyers

Actually, now that I think about it, Niemi was a rookie was he not? Before Cam was Roy and then Dryden in the 70s. Hextall would have had a cup as a rookie as well if it wasn't for Wayne's Oilers.

Its going to happen Its going to be a huge deal too How often does a team get booed when it wins the cup and then cheered when its losing the cup?

I think Mike Smith makes a little more playoff magic for the Desert team. That and some random goalie gets hurt and someone signs Bryz and he wins the cup after stepping in to save the team and becomes the hero of a whole different city. Just because that's what happens when everyone else leaves here.

Cam is the last Rookie to win a cup isn't he?(goalie)

I just wish Kimmo would play through less injuries, its clear we can operate without him on the ice with our plethora of D-men waiting in the wings. Its better to have him at 90% than to have him skating around through two sprained ankles and a sore elbow.

They have stats for the entire league actually.http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/player-giveaways-statistic/2012/

For Shea Weber numbers I think Timmo is a good deal in comparison.

Cam Ward saved that Canes team though, Is Mason or Emery of that caliber of goalie Heroics?

Minus the lockout and with 82 games I think that last years team could have probably made the play-offs too.

I don't get why Insurance is so hard to provide, the NBA does it and I'm sure the NFL would if any other country though it was a legitimate sport.

While I like the concept of the Amateurs in the Olympics, its something that is impossible to enforce world wide. Many nations would still provide the free living that most American(among other countries) Amateurs can't have. That is the whole reason the AAU was disbanded as a governing body in the first place to create a level playing field among athletes that qualify for the Games. That along with all the best players going pro and completely avoiding the games. The Olympics need something better defined for hockey. The OG just lost their allure after the miracle on ice. As I recall, the Flyers club team was better than the Russian team in the 70s anyways. I'd rather see a club world cup than the OG.

I understand the guy has his off ice antics, but the impact he made for them in the playoffs was immediate, He has to at least be somewhat of a presence in the locker room or at least was. Its also understandable that you can't keep a cancer outside of the team on the team.

Well, the Olympics for team sports haven't been that big of a deal since the USSR collapse. They are in Russia in upcoming winter games but I still don't see much incentive for KHL and NHL players making more than 10 million over the course of the next 3 years to actually put their heart into these games, its nothing more than extra ice time that interferes with Post-Season action. That makes quite a bit of sense actually, they should just start a summer ball hockey league then.

Extra mass on a defender might be a good thing though, if it doesn't disable him too much. I still feel as if you placed Ovie in a more offensive coaching scheme, he would return to the ways of 60 goals a season. I hate the way he is forced to play now, laying out for shot blocks and constantly being forced to dish the puck rather than pass to himself of the boards to attempt to split the defenses like was doing his second year.

Nah, they have two brodeur's and a schneider 250k per year is a lot cheaper than the nearly 80 million they'd have to pay otherwise. If anything a "return to contract" where Kovie comes back into the league and resumes where his former contract would currently be at. or when someone retires they are forced to stay retired.

I don't get why there is a press release for these types of things do fans really support HC more than they do the players that this would be relevant to know? Was there a big enough of a public presence to pressure HC into answering the question "Where is Giroux?" or "How do you feel about Giroux not skating with you guys?"

We tried to sell the farm to Weber and ended up making him the highest paid player in the NHL who(without Suter) posted similar numbers to Kimmo. I'd settle for 2s and 3s in this particular aspect, the focus on a goalie seems to be to grab an all-star, rather than some less than A level NHL talent. Am I wrong in thinking that only your 1st line guys should have anywhere near this many giveaways in a 53 game season? Only because they're on the ice far more than your 2 and 3 and 4th line guys? Giveaways Player Team Giveaways Giveaways Per Game Giveaways Per 60 671 Braydon Coburn PHI 31 0.94 2.49 672 Luke Schenn PHI 31 0.66 1.81 673 Claude Giroux PHI 30 0.63 1.77 674 Jakub Voracek PHI 25 0.52 1.81 675 Bruno Gervais PHI 22 0.59 2.09 676 Scott Hartnell PHI 21 0.66 2.49 677 Kimmo Timonen PHI 21 0.47 1.29 678 Sean Couturier PHI 19 0.41 1.56 679 Wayne Simmonds PHI 19 0.42 1.62 680 Nicklas Grossmann PHI 17 0.57 1.86 681 Matt Read PHI 16 0.38 1.27 682 Erik Gustafsson PHI 16 0.59 1.77 683 Ilya Bryzgalov PHI 15 0.38 0.39 684 Ruslan Fedotenko PHI 12 0.26 1.22 685 Oliver Lauridsen PHI 12 0.80 3.17 686 Brayden Schenn PHI 11 0.23 0.91 687 Simon Gagne PHI 10 0.26 1.12 688 Max Talbot PHI 9 0.26 1.00 689 Vincent Lecavalier PHI 7 0.18 0.60 690 Andrej Meszaros PHI 6 0.55 1.77 691 Adam Hall PHI 6 0.16 0.93 692 Kent Huskins PHI 5 0.26 1.01 693 Ray Emery PHI 5 0.24 0.27 694 Andreas Lilja PHI 3 0.75 2.69 695 Brandon Manning PHI 3 0.50 2.05 696 Mike Knuble PHI 3 0.11 0.50 697 Steve Mason PHI 3 0.15 0.17 698 Kurtis Foster PHI 3 0.13 0.60 699 Zac Rinaldo PHI 2 0.06 0.45 700 Tye McGinn PHI 2 0.11 0.53 701 Jay Rosehill PHI 2 0.18 1.62 702 Matthew Konan PHI 1 0.50 1.94 703 Brian Boucher PHI 1 0.25 0.42

Its sad to say but most of these guys will go off into the league the way Justin Williams did.

That is if they keep them for 2-4 years.

Well yes, because those lyrics don't match any song by either rap trio. But what do I know, you're just one of many following the opinions of your friends before you.

Steve Mason also had a amazing rookie season and still has yet to recreate any semblance of it.