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  1. An hour ago an announcement was made that yet another league will be formed. Called the Pacific Hockey League, little odd known about it. However we do know that the Adelaide team will be tbe Avalanche, which used to represent the state in the AIHL until financial issues forced them to be replaced by the Adrenaline. 

     

    So in terms of hockey leagues we have-

     

    NHSL, which is a pro league operating during the summer currently with 3 teams all based in SA but with plans to go national next year

     

    AIHL, which is an amateur competition that operates during the winter with 8 teams. The last two seasons were cancelled due to covid but the 22 season will go ahead

     

    AWIHL, the women's amateur competition. It operates during the summer and has five teams, however the last two seasons were cancelled because of covid. 

     

    Now this Pacific league which promises at least five teams and in the future a NZ team (and possiy other Pacific nations?).

     

    I've seen one person claim the new league is backed by the same people behind the NHSL and have the goal of starving AIHL teams of ice time. Who knows, I sure don't. 

     

    It's all very weird, all these leagues now competing with each other in a space which- and I can't stress this enough- doesn't have that much money in it to begin with. There's a reason why the long running AIHL has been strictly amateur. The Ice Arena has a capacity of ~275 people and at $15 a ticket what sort of value would any league have with those numbers/ income? 

  2. Sell out games a possibility on the horizon

     

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    Report: Coyotes working on deal to play at 5,000-seat arena at ASU

     

    The Arizona Coyotes are working on a multi-year deal to play next season at Arizona State University’s yet-to-be-completed 5,000-seat arena, according to a report by Craig Morgan of PHNX Sports.

     

    Morgan reported that the Coyotes would play in the arena, which appears to not have had naming rights sold for it, for the next three to four years while construction on an as-yet-approved arena in nearby Tempe is completed.

     

    The 5,000-seat capacity would be by far the lowest in the NHL. Canada Life Centre in Winnipeg currently has the lowest official capacity, at 15,294.

     

    NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told Morgan in an email, “While we have arena standards, we would approach the entire situation in a way intended to accommodate the club’s needs in effectuating a successful transition to a new venue. While there may very well be some, I can’t think of any hard and fast rules that couldn’t be relaxed to accommodate what is necessary.” He added, when Morgan asked specifically about approving a move to an arena with such a small capacity, “depends on the totality of circumstances, but I wouldn’t rule it out.”

     

    When contacted by Sportsnet, a Coyotes spokesman replied with the statement, “As we have said many times, we are completely committed to building our future in Arizona. As part of that process, we are excited to be exploring some great temporary arena options here before we move in to a new permanent home in the Valley.”

     

    The NHLPA told Morgan a few issues must be sorted out before the move.

     

    “The Coyotes’ anticipated move in 2022-23 from Gila River Arena in Glendale to a temporary Arizona venue raises a number of matters that the league and the NHLPA will need to work through,” a spokesperson for the NHLPA said. “Ideally, these matters will be sorted out well in advance of next season.”

     

    The Coyotes have the third-lowest attendance in the league, averaging 11,575 per game, above only the Ottawa Senators and Buffalo Sabres.

     

    The new arena, which is just east of Sun Devil Stadium, is projected to open this fall and is still under construction. According to AZCentral.com, the new arena is intended to be the home to the Arizona State University NCAA Division I hockey team, “wrestling and women’s gymnastics and be a venue for concerts, conferences, youth competitions and other events.”

     

    Morgan added that because of NCAA rules, the Coyotes would have to construct their own team-specific areas, such as dressing rooms, training facilities, etc. A source estimated to Morgan that the cost to the Coyotes for the additions would be $15 million to $20 million.

     

    The Coyotes have been leasing Gila River Arena on an annual basis since the Glendale City Council voted to opt out of a multimillion-dollar long-term deal in 2016. Glendale announced recently that it will not renew its agreement with the franchise beyond the 2021-22 season.

     

    The Coyotes have played at Gila River Arena since moving from America West Arena, which they shared with the NBA’s Phoenix Suns in downtown Phoenix, in 2003.

     

    In September, the Coyotes proposed the $1.7-billion development in Tempe, a city just east of Phoenix, that included a hockey arena, restaurants, shops and apartments on a 46-acre tract of land near the city’s downtown. The proposal was in danger of not getting enough votes to pass, Morgan previously reported.

  3. A rebuild should be the next move. Look at Ottawa, at the beginning of the season they announced they're out of rebuild mode after several bad years and look at them go! Hmm bad analogy. 

     

    But yeah, to be serious it's needed. I remember a couple of years ago someone here shared an article describing the flyers as "consistently mediocre". The point made was that they never got to be terrible but never really were a threat in terms of making playoff runs, they just kinda floated in that middle zone. I think this is the eventual result, not enough planning in a long term sense has cost them.

     

    I guess the question is whether the GM can pull off a long term plan to pull apart and put the team back together, and whether ownership will have the patience to let him enact it

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  4. 11 minutes ago, WordsOfWisdom said:

     

    The four major North America pro sports are:

    • Football
    • Baseball
    • Basketball
    • Hockey

    Since the NHL is based out of North America, and represents the game of hockey at its highest professional level, they get to set the name, and it's hockey. Just hockey. Field hockey is a high school level game (usually played by girls). 

     

    The soccer vs football comparison doesn't hold because you have professional football in Europe and you have professional football in the US, and they're completely different games. The term soccer was created to avoid confusion between the two. 

     

    When you talk about professional level hockey, there is no confusion. When you say hockey you are referring to the NHL game and that's it. There are no other professional hockey leagues playing it wildly different in other parts of the globe.

     

    I imagine it's as irritating as someone referring to the NFL as "American football" every time... to American football fans. (Who probably look over and scowl.) 

     

    :)

     

     

    Field hockey is played at the Olympics, Australia regularly medals for it

  5. 1 hour ago, WordsOfWisdom said:

     

     

    Unless/until the day comes when the game of hockey is played on anything other than ice at its highest level, people (and by people I mean anyone who isn't Canadian) are hereby ordered to stop referring to the game of hockey with the word "ice" in front of it.  NOBODY in Canada calls it that. It's just HOCKEY. 

     

    (End rant.)

    😡

     

    In Australia hockey refers to field hockey. 

     

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hockey

     

    I guess you would agree with the creators of soccer and only refer to it as football? 

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