BearOnIce

Yup, the sooner we start, the better we get.

Yes and so unfortunate. And as long as Bob Clarke has an office there.

This is it. Exactly. Perfectly written and stated.

Thanks for the update. Good luck. You are in a great field.

Are you from Oklahoma? Sooners fan? I went to school in Kansas. I am sure we are rivals in some way. Great part of the world. I get back there at least once a year to see friends get grounded again.

Just a question, if Brier would waive NMC, is there really any team out there that would take a chance on Brier respective of the remaining 2 years left and contract? I believe the contract is $6.5M a year but it is only $2M and $3M respectively. How does that work? Who eats the difference? Maybe this is academic because of the 2 buyouts that any team gets this coming year. Just was interested in hearing if anyone thought based upon his 5 goals this year, but clutch performance in his playoff history, would be such that a playoff team might take him and, and if so who? And given that the Flyers traditionally treat players who have produced positive results with respect, and would so with Dany Briere, who might he agree to go to. I heard Saint Louis mentioned last week but heard they looked and went cold.

Pilldoc: I was joking around. Sorry, did not mean to offend. I apologize. You are 100% correct in what you say. Like I've been bantering with Howie off and on all week, it is really ownership and GM that need to be in the spotlight more than the coach. The pressure the owner plays to win every year is good and bad. It's the architecture, drafting, development of this orgnaization more than the coaching execution. At least that is what I think. But having said that, what if Holmgren would of got Sutter or Webber, then added a Parise? Or who knows Nash? Then maybe JVR would not have been traded. Lots of what if's. I'll let this season roll as it is. Would rather miss playoffs and get shop at Top 6 D prospects. I know there are a lot of people that want Lavi out but I say not so fast! Let's take a mulligan this year. BOI

I did. Last week. They kid is great. Bob 1 Flyers 0

Hmmm... Looks like Flyers won and they are headed for the playoffs. Turn your rage on Holmgren if you need to... Otherwise shut up. You could be in Florida.

You're a genius. Another Laviolette hater.

Then don't.

3.) What the heck has happened to Capt'n Girouz this year?

Bryz will be here next year... And a number of years after that... But something tells me that there will be a number of new defencemen in front of him.. That boys is what our friend Mr Paul Holmgren will be up to...

Wow. Therien? That's it?

Bingo. This organization cannot change while there is still Ed Snider. Will Comcast wait until he is potted in the ground with the rest of the Sniders of Philadelphia up in Lemon Hill Cemetary? I'm not so sure. That is why there is a guy named Kukko who is a Comcast guy and who has a solid pedigree in sports management. In corporate sports today, you always have a plan B. That goes back to when Roberts was building Comcast. You got two camps in the Flyers organization right now but the Holmgren/Clarke/Snider camp is pretty suspect right now and i assure you under the Comcast microscope.

Hextall? Pelle? I honestly cannot remember. That's bad.

Howie: That is it exactly. This cannot go on year after year with blamming the players or the coach. Especially, changing the coach. Holmgren already has an issue with other GM's and hockey organizations in how he operates in the NHL like Attilla The Hun. This year it was simple: Holmgren shot his load with Pronger. In a NY minute end of career for CP20. Terrible. Just terrible. Ok, Holmgren realized Pronger was gone, Kimmo just had a couple good years left in the tank, Colburn had not improved and was a marginal 1/2, and the stable of horses in the D barn quite inadequate, so he swung for the fences. Weber, Sutter. He missed. Took his eye off the ball and Carle was gone. So here and this is where we are. And with a G who gets undressed 3 on 2 or 2 on 1 when D gets caught. Oh, and who misses Jagr or JVR? But the real issue is that this organization under Holmgren as GM does not develop players, especially D-men. They believe it can be done in the trade. Their scouts are marginal. This is just not well managed organization. Just not that bright. That is why this is completely a top-down issue. Lukko? There is a reason he is here. He is the Comcast back-up plan. He does have an impressive sports management track record up in Boston. BOI

This organization needs a GM and owner that will do what is right for the organization not necessarily what is right for the fans. I'm still waiting for either of them to make the tough decisions and grow some. They can start with admitting the FU with Bryz, getting him shipped out, and then getting some real assistant coaches for Laviolette instead of old Flyer punch bags. Oh, and now that there is plenty of time since no playoffs, start with the D.

I miss Jagr. I do not miss Roman Checkmanic (sp)

If that is true they I would say we are in a true D re-build. We had three legit D-men. Pronger, Carle, and Kimmo. Pronger was like taking your finger out of the hole in the dam when he went down. We now have one legit D and if Kimmo traded we are in a full scale D-rebuild. But I do not see how the Flyers would not be a buyer either.

Great post. Exactly. When you play the game you understand. And when you have young foprwards like Schenn, Couts, etc., you do have those issues staying high in the zone. I think that we can both agree that Bryz is average on odd man rush so does that mean that we have added another layer of liability, not to mention that we have a D that is far from mobile, especially recovering. They have enough of an issue just getting control of the puck in their own zone and then transitioning. It's not Laviolette.

Andy: I agree about the winning part but I just think with all respect that Snider needs to step back and be willing to let Holmgren build and manage this organization. Snider did not do this with Clarke. He is not doing it with Holmgren now. If it takes 3-5 years to draft, develop, and grow, thre just has to be patience. BOI

With all respect, I will meet you at the Ben Franklin Bridge and we can talk about this so you don't go over the rail. The water is still very cold this time of the year. . We are all frustrated. Angry. You name it. Peter Laviolette has Cup. And with a team that was just ok and had a just ok goalie. He also took a Flyers team to the finals. I really don't think it is Peter. I think it is as simple as Holmgren swinging for the fence, missing badly, and then all the scrubs he brought in failing miserably to even come close to getting the job done on D. It has screwed up the entire team. And now understandably they are a mess to try and motivate. How can you lose Pronger, lose Carle, lose Jagr, have all the injuries out of the gate, and expect to do anything. Answer is you cannot. This is on the GM more than anyone and not the coach. We will get through this. :unsure:

That is because Holmgren's marching orders are to win. Snider just does not get it.

Jammer: It's not the fans as an issue, it is that old man Snider who sits upstairs at WFC sticking his sterrips in the side of Holmgren as he rides him unrelentingly expecting miracles and a Cup win every year. He is delusional. The fans would ride it out. Ed does not have the time though as he is looking at a define potting in the ground in the not so distant future up there on Lemon Tree Hill with the rest of the line of Sniders.. BOI