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Danny Briere spoke to Couturier between periods.
“He said he didn’t feel too bad, but not all that great, either,” Briere said. “They’re tough breaks. I hope we get all of them out of the way now so that by the playoffs, we’re at full strength.”
Holmgren said that Couturier’s baseline scores were similar to what he had in training camp.
“I think what they are checking for now is damage to his skull,” Holmgren said. “And taking a look to see if there is any internal damage.”
The Flyers have three players currently concussed and out of the lineup: Chris Pronger (out for season), Claude Giroux and Brayden Schenn. None of these concussions involved a dirty play or questionable hit.
The speedy Couturier’s influence can’t be understated. He averages 13:03 minutes a night and is one of their top penalty killers, logging 3:05 a game. His shorthanded average has been higher than Giroux’s (2:50) because he picked up added minutes with Giroux out.
Holmgren said he was uncertain if the club will call up a player. Giroux and Schenn made the trip to Denver on Saturday night, but won’t play in Denver or Dallas.
“We’re missing a lot of bodies right now and it’s too bad it’s another centerman,” Jaromir Jagr said. “There’s nobody left at center. We got three concussed centermen. It’s not easy. We gotta battle through.”
Although the Flyers have three centers injured now, Holmgren wasn’t sure if he would call up a forward from the Phantoms.
“We do have some flexibility and Matt Read can play center,” he said. “Obviously, Schenn and Giroux are not options here for the near future. We’ll have to talk about that.”
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Good story blocker - thanks for sharing.
50 families signing a mortgage? I'm not sure if you would see that happen in today's world.
Volunteering almost becomes a job (especially if you are good at it) but it can be one of the most rewarding experiences.
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It's long but it's a good read I think. From Frank Seravalli
Last Monday, Comcast-Spectacor chairman Ed Snider was inducted into the United States Hockey Hall of Fame, one of the many milestones in his decades-long career in hockey. In the days surrounding Snider's induction, held this year in Chicago, the 78-year-old Snider talked with SportsWeek about his life, his legacy, his love of his plane's landing-gear cam, among other things. Here's a behind-the-scenes look at a man who - love him or hate him - has built one of the most iconic franchises, and successful businesses, in professional sports.The blacked-out window of the white Cadillac Escalade descends, and a hand emerges to punch in a four-digit code. The gate opens to a well-guarded compound in the marshlands on the backside of Philadelphia International Airport.
The Escalade glides through an airplane hangar, where two jets - one of which jockeys Comcast executives Ralph and Brian Roberts around the world - sit. The SUV stops at the foot of a Gulfstream V wrapped in orange and black striping, an aircraft that looks less like a business jet than it does a sky-bound sanctuary.
Minutes later, 14,970 pounds of thrust push its 12 passengers back into their leather seats as the planes climbs the sky. There are no security lines, no bag checks, and no need for identification. This is what it feels like to be the owner of the Philadelphia Flyers.
10:24 a.m.: After the plane climbs to 41,000 feet, Ed Snider, chairman of Comcast Spectacor - owner of the Philadelphia Flyers, the Wells Fargo Center, Comcast SportsNet and Global Spectrum - unbuckles his gold-plated seatbelt and invites me to the cockpit for a tour. There, pilot Chris Matte, who has flown Snider for seven years, is guiding the plane. To his right, first officer Norby monitors an electronic panel to avoid a collision.
Commuting between his homes in Gladwyne and Montecito, Calif., where Oprah Winfrey is a neighbor, Snider spends about 200 hours in the air each year. Equipped with wireless Internet, a shower, and a flight attendant, the plane pairs the performance of a Ferrari with the luxury of a Rolls Royce. It can fly from California to Europe without refueling and has a ceiling of 51,000 feet, allowing it to fly nearly 2 miles above commercial traffic, where you can see the curvature of the Earth.
Snider traded in his old plane, a Gulfstream IV, for this 2001-built model, which runs about $40 million new. Before he took possession in November, he had the interior tailored to his specifications, with a Flyers logo painted on the tail. "It's got all of the latest and greatest avionics," Snider says. "I was able to put this together the way I wanted to do it. Pretty cool, huh?"
10:38 a.m.: Back in his captain's chair, Snider swivels to face me. His ride is as singular as his status among professional sports owners. Out of 122 teams in the four major pro sports, just five have longer-serving owners than Snider. He is now one of the rare sports owners who - like the recently deceased Al Davis with the Oakland Raiders or Art Rooney with the Steelers - made his money from the team he owns. Today, pro sports is a big-boys club that requires deep pockets to buy-in.
"Everything that I have has come through the Flyers and the Spectrum," Snider says. "Most guys make their money somewhere else and lose money in sports. It's very difficult in sports today to make money because of the incredible salaries that these players get. You can't come and buy a team and make your living that way anymore."
Everything is bigger in today's NHL. A journeyman player makes more in a single season than Snider paid the league in expansion fees in 1967. "That first season we grossed $950,000 in ticket sales," he says. "Now, we gross $1.2 million in ticket sales in a single home game."
But it is not ticket prices that allow Snider the luxuries he enjoys today. More than 30 years ago, he founded Spectacor Management Group, the largest arena-management firm in the world. He sold it in 1997 and two years later created Global Spectrum, a competitor in the same field. The company now manages more than 90 buildings around the world, with interests in television, ticketing and food service. The company's concessionaire, Ovations Food Services, rakes in $200 million a year in revenue. "I haven't gone out and built a widget factory," Snider says. "I've only stuck with what we know how to do well, and then we've expanded it."
In 2000, Snider turned over the bulk of the day-to-day operations of Global Spectrum to president and chief operating officer Peter Luukko, who is sitting in the back of the plane next to Flyers' GM Paul Holmgren. Luukko believes that given the economics of sports today, there will never be another person with a career like Snider's. "Without extreme wealth, it would be nearly impossible for an individual to step in and alter the landscape as Ed has done," Luukko says.
10:54 a.m.: Snider's daughter Lindy, 53, sits in front of him on the flight. One of her most vivid memories of her father's run as the Flyers' president - aside from the two Stanley Cups - is a picture she drew as a first-grader. "It said: 'My mom is really pretty. My mom is really nice,' " she recalls. "Then it said: 'My daddy is really handsome. My daddy's face turns purple when the Flyers lose a game.' "
She knew not to ask him for a raise in allowance, or anything else, unless it was after a win. Now, Lindy says, the whole family is superstitious, all because of her father. "If you're sitting somewhere and score, you're staying there," she explains. "One time, they locked me in the bathroom because we had scored a goal when I was in there. You cannot change your seat. It's what you wear. If you're on the escalator, you better go back to the escalator. It's an entire culture, and now it's been passed to our kids. That's how seriously he takes winning."
11:26 a.m.: As the tree-lined streets of Chicago slowly come into focus below, the flight attendant walks through the cabin offering an assortment of mints, chewing gum and candy. The monitors in front of Snider flick back to his favorite part of the flight - watching the landing-gear camera - for the final approach to Midway Airport. Then, with a thud, the landing gear touches down. After the plane taxis to its parking spot, the door opens and the stairs descend. A limousine bus is parked just steps away.
12:57 p.m.: Snider is never late, and even after a plane ride and a 30-minute drive into downtown Chicago, he and his entourage stroll into the swank Catch-35 seafood restaurant on Wacker Drive a couple of minutes before their 1 p.m. reservation.
Snider is hungry. After perusing the restaurant's gluten-free menu - Snider suffers from celiac disease, an autoimmune disorder caused by a reaction to the protein found in wheat - he wants to order. "I think we're all good to go," Snider says to the waitress.
"I will give you guys a few more minutes," she replies.
Snider sighs.
3:35 p.m.: Snider is due back in the Renaissance Chicago Downtown hotel for a 3:40 pm. media availability. In the hallway of the hotel, he's stopped by fellow Hall of Fame inductee Chris Chelios, the former longtime defenseman for the Chicago Blackhawks and Detroit Red Wings. Chelios' respect for Snider is common among NHL veterans, for both the team's longstanding competitive record and their first-class treatment of players.
Yet Snider's relationship with Philadelphia fans is complex. In most cities, an owner who has delivered 15 division titles, eight trips to the Stanley Cup Finals, and two championships might expect a statue to be erected in his honor. In Philly, though, Snider is often perceived as an imperious hard-ass, one who neglected his NBA franchise while trumpeting the history of a team that hasn't won a title in 36 years.
"I'm not really sure why he gets a bad rap sometimes," said son Jay, who served as president of the Flyers from 1983-94, and who flew in for the Hall of Fame event from his home in California. "I can tell you that there is not an owner in sports who cares more about winning."
Jay points to the Flyers' payroll in 2003-04, last full-season before the yearlong NHL work stoppage, when the Flyers paid their players a reported $72 million. This season the NHL salary cap is $64.5 million.
3:52 p.m.: At the media event, Snider is asked the first of many questions about what he has described as his lasting legacy in Philadelphia, the Ed Snider Youth Hockey Foundation. Last month work was completed on refurbishing and enclosing three city rinks with the help of a $6.5 million donation and matching grant from the commonwealth and city.
The rinks will help balloon the program from its current capacity of 2,500 kids to upwards of 10,000 participants, all of whom are able to receive after-school tutoring, mentoring, hockey equipment and ice time, for free. The only requirement is steady attendance in school and improving grades. The program is one of the reasons for Snider's induction into the Hall. "It gives me a tremendous amount of satisfaction," Snider says. "A lot of these kids don't have a heck of a lot. Just to see how they respond and appreciate these opportunities, to see parents stop me and tell me what a godsend it is for their child means everything."
4:57 p.m.: Snider is in the middle of an interview for the NHL Network that will air during the Winter Classic between the Flyers and the Rangers on Jan. 2 when he checks a message that just landed on his cellphone. On the screen is the name of the most celebrated player to ever put on an NHL jersey. Snider beams when he plays back the voice-mail. "Hey, Mr. Snider, this is Wayne Gretzky. Just wanted to call and say congratulations on your induction into the Hall of Fame. You have been an integral part in growing the game in this country. You should be proud."
Later, Snider poses for pictures, first with his induction plaque, which will be housed in the U.S. Hall of Fame's tiny facility in Eveleth, Minn., and then with his family. Snider stands first with two of his three sons, next with his three daughters, and finally with all of them, including daughter's Tina's three daughters, who came on the trip.
"Dad, can we get a real smile?" Lindy asks.
"This is real," Snider says.
5:45 p.m.: The evening's events begin with a cocktail reception. Snider is greeted in the hallway by Blackhawks legend Stan Mikita. NHL commissioner Gary Bettman then offers his congratulations. Waiting across the room is the new boss of the NHL Players Association, Donald Fehr, who once ran Major League Baseball's players union and who will oppose Bettman in labor negotiations starting in January.
Bettman and Snider have a unique relationship. Snider is the NHL's longest-serving owner, and is the only owner on the league's competition committee, which decides how the game is played. Bettman says he talks with Snider almost once a week, or more. "If the officiating is not up to what he considers appropriate, I'll hear from him, sometimes even during a game," Bettman says.
7:04 p.m.: The entrance to the Renaissance's main ballroom teems with hockey royalty. It's noted that each of this year's five inductees - who also include Keith Tkachuk, Gary Suter, and broadcaster Mike "Doc" Emrick - are connected to the United States' stunning victory in the 1996 World Cup of Hockey. Snider hosted the tournament event at the Wells Fargo Center (then known as CoreStates): Chelios, Tkachuk and Suter won gold medals, and Emrick called the games on television.
8:58 p.m.: During his speech, Chelios calls Snider "Mr. Snider." Contrary to popular belief, Snider does not ask those who work for him to address him as such. Even so, hardly anyone calls him anything but, whether its longtime friend Bob Clarke, the Flyers senior vice president; GM Paul Holmgren; arena workers, or players. "People rarely have the courage to call him Ed," daughter Sarena says, "but he actually likes it."
Just before he's scheduled to deliver his speech, Snider turns to Sarena, 26, and reminds her that she saved his life. It's an old story, but it's an emotional moment for Snider. He was already well into his 50s when Sarena was born in 1985. While in the pool one day with his young daughter, he was so out of shape that he struggled just to keep her afloat. That's when he decided to change his lifestyle and commit himself to healthy living. Today, he works out about five days a week. When in California, he exercises with Peter Park, Lance Armstrong's former trainer. He has a gym in his Gladwyne home, and plays fiercely competitive doubles tennis with a group of friends. "Sarena and [son] Sam were a huge wake-up call for him," Lindy says. "He is healthier now than he was when he was 50."
9:31 p.m.: Snider receives a standing ovation on his way to the podium. Asked to speak for no more than 10 minutes, Snider obliges. He prefers brevity. He wrote his remarks himself and scribbled in changes on the fly as Chelios and Emrick were giving their speeches. He talks about building a fan base in Philly, about the franchise's two Stanley Cup championships, about the Ed Snider Youth Hockey Foundation. It's less than an hour later when ESPN SportsCenter anchor Steve Levy, the night's emcee, wraps up the ceremony. Snider receives handshakes and hugs, and shares a laugh with a neighbor from California. As the elevator doors close on Snider, he is flanked by his three daughters. A nightcap in Suite 1432 is ordered to celebrate.
TUESDAY
10:05 a.m.: The traveling Sniders are due to meet in the lobby at 10:30 a.m. Given Snider's proclivity for punctuality, that means everyone needs to be ready and waiting before he steps off the elevator. He doesn't wait for anyone.
As the bus heads toward the airport, he toys with daughter Lindy's iPhone. Snider prides himself on his proficiency with his BlackBerry, from which he often sends notoriously short responses to messages. Any pertinent information is passed through his assistant, Ann Marie Nasuti. Still, Snider's comfort with technology is impressive for a 78-year-old. On this trip, he is intrigued by Words With Friends, the Scrabble-like game Lindy is playing. Snider once bought an iPad, gave it to his son Craig after deciding he had no use for it, then bought another after learning more about it. As the bus pulls into the executive terminal at Midway, the tail of Snider's jet pokes above the roof of the small building. It dwarfs every other private plane on the tarmac.
10:55 a.m.: Walking through the terminal, Holmgren pulls his boss aside. The Flyers GM informs him that Flyers center Claude Giroux, the NHL's leading scorer, will be out indefinitely. Giroux failed a baseline test that morning, and team doctors have diagnosed him with a concussion. Snider stops, silent, and processes the information. He looks as if he has been punched in the stomach. "Claude Giroux has a concussion," Snider informed the rest of his traveling party, all of whom are familiar with team's uncomfortable history with concussions and star players.
After they board a few minutes later, the nose of plane tilts toward the overcast Illinois sky. The flight to Washington, where the Flyers will face the Capitals that night, is just 75 minutes. Though he's seen it about 10 times now, Snider still can't get over the underbelly camera, which is now showing the landing gear retracting and the trees below fading out of view. "Isn't that just the greatest?" Snider says, laughing. "That's really something else."
11:43 a.m.: On a table a spread of club sandwiches, crab and shrimp cocktail, and Caprese salad replaces the Wall Street Journal, Chicago Tribune, USA Today and the New York Times. Snider opens to the sports section in USA Today, but stops reading when he sees a story on concussions that features Giroux. Snider puts the paper down and walks from one end of the plane to the other. "I can't stop thinking about Giroux," Snider says. "With these types of things, you just never know."
11:58 a.m: From day to day, Craig Snider might talk more with his father than anyone else in the family, though it hasn't always been that way. After earning an MBA from Wharton, Craig dabbled in film in Los Angeles, worked for Global Spectrum and became an entrepreneur. Today, he's executive director of the Snider Foundation, the family's philanthropic arm. He directs his father's giving, which is often tied to the conservative political causes Ed Snider supports and is earmarked to ensure that Snider Hockey will operate in perpetuity.
Craig points to the Snider family's vacations in Maine as vital in maintaining the clan's close ties. Snider first began taking his family to central Maine in 1965. They would sing songs in their station wagon the entire way there. Today, the family owns eight properties on Cobbossee Lake, where they try to gather for a retreat at least once a summer. "We're a very close family," Craig says. "It's nice to have that summer home that stays the same. We all live in different places now; it's the one place we all connect. . . . It gives us a sense of ritual."
12:05 p.m.: As Air Snider enters metropolitan Washington's airspace, Snider is sitting in the front with Craig's wife, Beth, and daughters Sarena and Lindy. (Snider's youngest son, Sam, did not make the trip to Chicago; he was taking a final exam at Parsons New School for Design in New York.) For Sarena, Ed is both father and confidant. "I know that I can tell him anything and he won't judge me," she says. "He might have been a little protective about boyfriends that I've had in the past, but he just wants what is best for me. I am really fortunate to have him."
She notes that he has some skills that might surprise people. "I can remember that he would stay up late and edit or help me write a history paper," she says. "He would read to me. And you should see him on the dance floor, or get him to sing. He does this little twist that makes everyone laugh."
1:14 p.m.: A few minutes before landing, Snider hops up to use the washroom. Upon returning, his daughters ask him about his intense schedule, given his age. "Starting on Jan. 7th, I will be in my 80th year," Snider says. "Can you believe that? I don't feel old."
Questions about retiring have followed Snider for years. In the early 1990s, many believed he was in the process of handing over the reins to son Jay, then-team president. But that was nearly two decades ago, and Snider shows no signs of giving up control, or slowing down, anytime soon. He is still intensely involved with the day-to-day operations of the Flyers, evidenced by the fact that he was the one who pushed Holmgren to sign goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov to a massive contract in June.
"He's just got a young spirit," says Jay. "He really is modern. It's his outlook. He doesn't say, 'We used to do it that way'; he's just enjoys life. We always laugh, because he continually says, 'This is the greatest steak' or 'This is the greatest place.' . . . Everything is always the greatest. It's like he's experiencing everything for the first time still."
There's also the fact that Snider's father, Saul, a successful grocer in Alexandria, Virginia, did not live long after retiring. "I live to work," Snider says. "If I didn't like what I do, I wouldn't do it."
After passing a line of planes at Dulles airport, the Gulfstream once again comes to a halt. The stairs descend into a chilly afternoon. The traveling party piles into a navy-blue van for the 25-mile trek to downtown Washington.
Peering down at his BlackBerry, Snider reads an email from injured Flyers captain Chris Pronger offering congratulations for the Hall of Fame induction. The next day, Snider will take Pronger to Pittsburgh on the plane so the captain can meet with concussion experts for his season-dooming examination at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.
4:20 p.m.: After a private tour of the National Holocaust Memorial Museum, Snider heads to the Prime Rib restaurant near the Verizon Center, where he meets even more family members, many of whom still live in his native Washington. Among them is Snider's sister Phyllis, the woman responsible for giving the Flyers their name back in 1967. "Now, let's get a win tonight," Snider says after ordering his favorite steak.
9:07 p.m.: In a private suite crammed with friends and family members, Snider celebrates the Flyers' drubbing of the struggling Capitals. When the final buzzer sounds, Snider prepares for his most important ritual: the locker-room visit. Among the many perks of hosting the Winter Classic, Snider said he was most excited for HBO's reality series "24/7 Road to the Winter Classic," since it will finally give him the opportunity to hear a Flyers coach's pre-game speech.
"Honestly, I try not to spend too much time there," Snider says of the locker room. "There could be all sorts of things that go wrong with an owner there, whether it's a player feeling intimidated or pressured. I really believe in the inner sanctum of a locker room, a place where players and coaches feel comfortable."
Snider does, however, believe in a postgame handshake for each player. On this night, after the Flyers collected their sixth straight win to increase their lead in a tight Eastern Conference, Snider did more than that. He got down and did five push-ups in his suit and tie as the players glared in disbelief. "You can tell that this means a lot to him when he comes in here," Ilya Bryzgalov said. "This team is his life."
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My teammates told me I spit out my teeth and finished my shift but I had no recollection of it.
You sir are my hero +1
I had a Dora band-aid on after a paper-cut just yesterday.
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If both teams are healthy and playing on the top of the game?
In a 7 games series I would take Boston but it wouldn't be 6-0 games.
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Boston is like a freakin machine. 17-1-2 in their last 20. Unreal.
I remember posting when they won their eighth straight or something.
The Bruins on paper are really good and they've found their stride but the Flyers really laid an egg on this one at the same time. The first goal was what around 20 seconds in?
A few bad bounces against with some bad luck in there too. Effort was lacking also.
It happens to every team from time to time.
On the flip side Bob only let one in. I think Lavy has to start him on Monday in Colorado.
It will be a statement game for this team and how they handle the loss of their two most important players AND probably their arguably their most valued rookie.
It's time we see Briere & Timo put this team on their backs as the veteran leaders of this team. They've been solid but it's time to take the next step and lead.
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but no one should be under any illusion here. we're gonna suffer without pronger
Flyers without Pronger + Giroux are a .500 team.
With that many rookies it's going to be a bumpy ride.
I think they end up 6-8 in the conference at the end of the year if Giroux isn't back for a month or so.
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Bryz and Marshall look terrible. I'm sitting second row above the tunnel. Marshall holds all day, Bryz is clueless.
Is Couturier okay? He looked really woozy leaving the ice after the delay, I didn't see the hit.
Looked like he got hit right behind the ear from Timo's shot. Doubt he will be back. Concussion?
They didn't come ready today.
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Not even 10 minutes in.
3-0 Boston, Bryz looking a little shaky but not all his fault.
Shelly fights Chara, loses but takes him off the ice for 5 minutes.
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Game LInk - http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/98471/1/watch-philadelphia-flyers-vs-boston-bruins.html
From Meltzer
Looking to extend their December winning streak to eight games, the Flyers (20-7-3) return to the Wells Fargo Center to take on the Boston Bruins (20-9-1). The game starts at 1 PM EST and will be broadcast locally on CSN Philly and nationally on NHL Network.Today's game marks the second of four meetings between the teams this season. On opening night of the 2011-12 season, the Flyers traveled to Boston and emerged with a 2-1 victory on the strength of goals by Claude Giroux and Jakub Voracek as well as 22 saves from Ilya Bryzgalov in his Flyers debut. Brad Marchand scored the lone Bruins goal.
The Bruins, who have the best goal differential (+41) in the NHL this season, would be a formidable opponent even if the Flyers had Claude Giroux (concussion) and Chris Pronger (concussion) in the lineup. The club's combination of size and speed presented matchup problems in the playoffs last year. Boston enters this game on a three-game winning streak and has won seven of its last 10 games.
On Wednesday, the Bruins downed the Ottawa Senators, 5-2. Tim Thomas made 47 saves and Daniel Paille scored a pair of goals, while Rich Peverley had a goal and an assist and Chris Kelly and Patrice Bergeron tallied single goals.
Until the Flyers' last game, in which the club killed 8 of 9 penalties successfully in a 4-3 win over the Canadiens, Philly had not taken more than four penalties in any game during their winning streak. A repeat would not be advisable against Boston, although the Bruins power play has connected at an ordinary 17.6 percent rate.
On Thursday, Montreal's second-ranked penalty kill cooled off the Flyers' previously red hot power play, which now stands at 19.4 percent for the season. Boston is another very good penalty killing team, surviving 83 percent of its manpower disadvantages.
Wayne Simmonds brings a four-game goal scoring streak in today's tilt, while Voracek has points in four of his last five games. Scott Hartnell's six-game goal scoring streak was snapped in Montreal but came extremely close twice to tallying goals.
Apart from Giroux and Pronger, the Flyers are still without Brayden Schenn (concussion), Erik Gustafsson (LTIR, wrist surgery) and Andreas Lilja (LTIR, on rehab assignment while healing a high ankle sprain). For Boston, Zdeno Chara (knee) and Gregory Campbell (left foot) are listed as day-to-day. Campbell is doubtful for today, but Chara practiced yesterday.
Today's game is the Flyers' final home game until the Winter Classic.
PROJECTED LINEUPS (subject to change)
FLYERS
Hartnell - Couturier - Jagr
Read - Briere - Simmonds
JVR - Talbot - Voracek
Shelley - Zolnierczyk - Rinaldo
Timonen - Coburn
Carle - Bourdon/Meszaros
Marshall/Bourdon - Meszaros
Bryzgalov
[bobrovsky]
BRUINS
Lucic - Krejci - Horton
Marchand - Bergeron - Seguin
Pouliot - Kelly - Peverley
Paille - Hamill - Thornton
Chara - Boychuk
Seidenberg- Corvo
Ference - McQuaid
Thomas
[Rask]
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Today's game marks the 1,300th regular season match of Jaromir Jagr's NHL career. After today, he'll be two games away from entering the all-time top 50 list. Alexei Kovalev is currently 50th with 1,302 games played.
Jagr's next goal will move him past Brendan Shanahan for sole possession of 11th place on the NHL's all-time goal-scoring list. He is 12 goals away from catching Luc Robitaille and entering the top 10 list.
Jagr, who is 9th on the NHL's all-time point list and 11th on the all-time assist list, currently has 1,625 career points and 969 assists. He is 16 points away from catching Joe Sakic for the 8th spot on the points list.
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I was lucky enough to score two tickets in section 136 row 32. Do you think this will be high enough off of the field to see the puck or am I going to freeze watching the scoreboard? Section 136 is directly behind the Rangers net. Thanks in advance for any help.
I'm not the right person to ask about that. I haven't been to CBP as I moved out of the area about 8 years ago.
I too would have thought the LINK would have been prefered but I'm sure it has to do the with the month of setup work they need to do.
Last time I checked the Eagles tried to play football at the LINK so that's probably why.
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@flyercanuck but every minute was worth it I'm sure.
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That's what I was thinking. Must be awesome. So smooth
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Correct me if I'm wrong but just because Pronger is LTIR for the season, when it comes to the off season his money counts towards the cap and they can only be 10% over during the summer.
So *If* something is done, there has to be some salary moving.
If Homer gives Carle a contract similar to Coburns then that's a 40% raise.
It would almost need to be even money in a trade as I figure it.
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I saw them up close and personal less than 2 weeks ago at a "Meet the Players" party for season ticket holders they are quite impressive live. I was telling my poor brother Adamflyers who could not be there due to work that some of these ice girls were taking my breath away.
I need glasses apparently
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Why do people keep saying things like this? Briere is currently on pace to equal his best points total for a season as a Flyer and the 2nd best of his career.
Because he is getting over-shadowed by Giroux and flying under the radar.
Honestly, I was surprised when I looked at his stats earlier this week.
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Schenn, 1st rd pick, marshall for weber.
The other GMs have seen Schenn play as much as we have.
Definitely not a "his value has never been higher..." type guy right now.
Maybe by the deadline but I don't think so.
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Pronger is done for the season, so what now? Who do they get to fill a huge hole without giving up the farm now that each and every team knows we need D help?
I think Homer waits until everyone gets healthy. Neither Schenn nor JVR fetch much right now so I'm not sure trading them gets you much.
At most I think you will see a pending RFA/UFA 3/4 dman by the trade deadline.
As well as this team is playing, they are young and not read for the a run to the SCF IMHO.
Finish the year strong. Get the kids as much playing time and experience as possible.
Replace Pronger in the off season and make some tweaks as needed.
Then make your push next year
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And now for something we can all agree on.
Jesus. Some of those are the double bag types....ya know, in case one falls off.
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Live Game Chat Log From Tonight (Start at the bottom).
10:38 PM Vanflyer peace out everyone. Goodnight (morning), good hockey.
10:37 PM Vanflyer HF- actually they are on Saturday / Sunday. Especially after x-mas / new year. That is bad, because my friends are merciless with me.
10:37 PM killjoysfly killjoysfly has entered the room
10:37 PM hf101 hf101 has left the room
10:37 PM hf101 night all
10:36 PM hf101 see ya van
10:36 PM Vanflyer Ok fellas, we rolled- barely, but a good win (despite the refs).
10:36 PM hf101 yep......at least the games aren't on at 2:00am
10:36 PM AbelMorpheus AbelMorpheus has left the room
10:35 PM Vanflyer I go to work at 6PM.
10:35 PM hf101 I know I'd rather watch hockey
10:35 PM AbelMorpheus I'm out. Time to refresh my cocktail and relax until bedtime. night all
10:35 PM hf101 I get up at 6am to go to work
10:35 PM canoli canoli has left the room
10:34 PM Vanflyer Yes, but HF- remember, I have to get up at 6am to watch / chat hockey. Such dedication! ;-)
10:34 PM AbelMorpheus night drew
10:34 PM hf101 sound nice van
10:34 PM Vanflyer later dig
10:33 PM PhilsFanDrew PhilsFanDrew has left the room
10:33 PM Vanflyer Gonna go swim in gorger blue water and 85% shortly. :-)
10:33 PM PhilsFanDrew later haters
10:33 PM AbelMorpheus Later Dig
10:33 PM Irishjim Irishjim has left the room
10:33 PM hf101 see ya digity
10:33 PM PhilsFanDrew 41-0
10:33 PM Irishjim whats football
10:33 PM Digityman Digityman has left the room
10:33 PM Vanflyer ah. Okay. Maybe he forgot. He did not mention it when I was doing the soft sell.
10:33 PM Digityman I'm out too. Posted the game chat in the game thread.
10:33 PM PhilsFanDrew boatrace city
10:33 PM brelic brelic has left the room
10:32 PM PhilsFanDrew Wow the Falcons are just bludgeoning the Jaguars
10:32 PM Digityman Van - Nov 5th B21 signed up
10:32 PM hf101 see ya Canoli
10:32 PM AbelMorpheus night canoli
10:32 PM Vanflyer later canoli
10:32 PM canoli Goodnight All
10:32 PM hf101 b21 has been here for awhile
10:32 PM canoli Well - another solid road win boys! Have fun Saturday afternoon - I gotta work - suck! so I'll miss it
10:32 PM Vincent05 Vincent05 has left the room
10:32 PM Vanflyer (b21 / burgher).
10:31 PM Vanflyer HF- did he sign up tonight?
10:31 PM Irishjim it is an open forum i'm ok with it
10:31 PM canoli I guess that's how it works...
10:31 PM hf101 of course, but it might be kinda fun to give him a few warnings
10:31 PM hf101 of course, but it might be kinda fun to give him a few warnings
10:31 PM canoli dk why he should be - we all always treated him with respect - because that's how he treated us
10:31 PM Vanflyer Digity- I agree.
10:30 PM Vanflyer Burgher showed up earlier on P.com. Asked if it was safe to come out and play. I told him sure, but if he wanted to talk some good hockey and not put up with bullshit to come here. He is a bit reluctant.
10:30 PM Digityman HF - as annoying as it is I say give him a chance.
10:30 PM canoli glad he made the switch
10:30 PM AbelMorpheus yeah you're right. A couple of years ago there was a pretty cool guy from pittsburgh
10:30 PM Irishjim 101 thats him
10:30 PM canoli he's a hockey fan. Ah, that's good to hear
10:30 PM PhilsFanDrew yes hf he is
10:30 PM hf101 Burgher is here I think as B21
10:30 PM PhilsFanDrew I don't always agree with Burgher but he is somewhat objective
10:29 PM canoli yeah what happened to Burgher?
10:29 PM PhilsFanDrew Sidmalkin was a fruit
10:29 PM canoli or the other one -rick, or whatever his names were
10:29 PM hf101 so digity can we flag Kuato for talking ing third person?
10:29 PM Irishjim not the sid/malkin dude
10:29 PM PhilsFanDrew Burgher is cool
10:29 PM canoli whoopdeedo. I'm happy to say I never once engaged that guy
10:29 PM Vanflyer Actually- this board could use just a twinge of spice / controversy. I tried to get one of the decent Pittsburgh posters to come over earlier.
10:29 PM AbelMorpheus but we're talkin about him
10:28 PM AbelMorpheus yep both of them
10:28 PM Irishjim yep
10:28 PM hf101 I still think he should only earn tokens if he speaks in first person
10:28 PM canoli under his kuato name?
10:28 PM PhilsFanDrew TWATO
10:28 PM Irishjim and he came with WE
10:28 PM AbelMorpheus yah I saw
10:28 PM canoli no I didn't know.
10:28 PM Vanflyer You know he signed up tonight to this forum right?
10:28 PM Irishjim i think its funny KUATO finally broke down and joined her
10:28 PM hf101 LOL
10:28 PM canoli who gives a fk what kumquat thinks about anything?
10:27 PM Vanflyer PFD- you are correct. I just wonder what satisfaction there is in that.
10:27 PM AbelMorpheus second that
10:27 PM canoli oh please let's not even talk about him
10:27 PM Vanflyer HF- What do you think?
10:27 PM PhilsFanDrew he just takes the opposite side just to debate
10:27 PM PhilsFanDrew Kuato is a contrarian
10:27 PM hf101 that would be a FIRST
10:26 PM hf101 Kuato agreed you were right?
10:26 PM Vanflyer Canoli- I had a fight with Kuato about the finance side of things. But I broke down some of those high price signings. Hartnell, Kimmo, Briere, Lupul, Richards. The first four are having career years.
10:25 PM AbelMorpheus So do we sit Marshall and Bourdon when Lilja and Gus come back? Or keep Bourdon and add only Gus?
10:25 PM PhilsFanDrew he is a great at evaluating talent he is just a poor negotiator
10:25 PM hf101 lol
10:25 PM canoli lol
10:25 PM Illflyaway Illflyaway has left the room
10:25 PM 926 926 has left the room
10:24 PM canoli they have, they really have. He can't negotiate for sh!t but he can pick em
10:24 PM canoli I have to. The guy has an eye for talent no question
10:24 PM PhilsFanDrew Homer takes some abuse and some of it warranted but his undrafted free agent signings have been awesome
10:24 PM AbelMorpheus hf i'll check it out, thanks
10:24 PM hf101 thank homer!
10:24 PM canoli every one of them has really jumped into the game and excelled - from Zac to Harry, Read of course...Couturier playing top line
10:24 PM Vincent05 l8r guys
10:24 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has left the room
10:23 PM Vincent05 another big game sat vs Bs, see u all then
10:23 PM canoli As much as we've been cursed by injuries so far we've been blessed by our rookies
10:23 PM hf101 abel, digity has a link to whatch 24/7 on the announcements on the shoutbox....he just asks you not to share it.
10:22 PM canoli would not be denied.
10:22 PM Leach27 At worst we'll get a rental at the deadline
10:22 PM canoli that goal he scored was serious effort
10:22 PM AbelMorpheus amen
10:22 PM canoli his best game so far, and they've all been good
10:22 PM canoli he did
10:22 PM AbelMorpheus Yeah Canoli I was suprised
10:22 PM Leach27 I forgot about foot surgery, and hand surgery, opps
10:22 PM PhilsFanDrew Harry earned the time
10:21 PM canoli yeah that was pretty impressive by Lavy, putting Harry out on that last PK
10:21 PM AbelMorpheus Wish I had HBO this has got to be fun to watch.
10:21 PM Vincent05 wow flyers 12-4-1 without pronger this year, amazing compare to last year
10:21 PM Vanflyer Leach- He has only played 13 games. So it should be 4.5 million (85% of his full salary)- approximately.
10:20 PM AbelMorpheus Coots lookin' strong and Harry Z out at the end on the pk. Wow!
10:20 PM PhilsFanDrew Shelley's face looks like an old beat up catchers mitt
10:20 PM Mad Dog Mad Dog has left the room
10:19 PM Leach27 and a virus
10:19 PM Leach27 there's nothing left on him to go, knee's, wrist, back, eye, head.
10:19 PM PhilsFanDrew If your work offers you more than you are worth you are still going to take the money
10:19 PM 926 926 has entered the room
10:19 PM Illflyaway Illflyaway has entered the room
10:19 PM PhilsFanDrew Shelley is doing what we all would do
10:18 PM Leach27 He might have to retire
10:18 PM Vincent05 he can get hit with the puck in the press box, out for year with crack skull
10:18 PM Irishjim his hit is 4.9
10:18 PM PhilsFanDrew blame Homer for that debacle
10:18 PM PhilsFanDrew you know what though don't hate on Shelley
10:18 PM AbelMorpheus Damn, LA won? There goes 25 tokens.
10:18 PM Leach27 cap space
10:18 PM Leach27 how much cap will we have with pronger on ltir? anyone know
10:18 PM Vanflyer HF- I did not take the full 50. Columbus has been playing better. I got 25.
10:17 PM PhilsFanDrew priceless
10:17 PM PhilsFanDrew Vince great haha
10:17 PM Irishjim there ya go vince give it to shelly
10:17 PM Vanflyer RE: Talbot, I think it is interesting when players go to certain teams and just fit like a glove. Its clear that is the situation with Talbot.
10:17 PM hf101 lol
10:17 PM Vincent05 give shelley the C
10:17 PM Leach27 flyers 2nd in the league with 43 pts
10:16 PM hf101 i won 60 tokens on LA
10:16 PM PhilsFanDrew with good rapport in the locker room and with the media and fans
10:16 PM PhilsFanDrew not a prolific scorer but a character guy
10:16 PM Irishjim the "C" is jinxed just roll with 3 "A"s
10:16 PM canoli Yep, even with the 3-goal 2nd, good performance from Bob
10:16 PM PhilsFanDrew Talbot as captain would remind me when the Caps made Chris Clark captain
10:16 PM Vanflyer (John Stevens gets his first win)
10:16 PM canoli he could score 20+ this year - something he's never come close to
10:16 PM Vanflyer Where is idaho so I can rub in the LA over Columbus victory?
10:16 PM PhilsFanDrew Talbot is well liked by everyone
10:16 PM Vincent05 great performance by bob
10:16 PM roo28 roo28 has left the room
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10:15 PM hf101 Talbot would make a good captain
10:15 PM Mad Dog nice performance by Bob too.
10:15 PM PhilsFanDrew Tyler Kennedy is scrappy little player too but he is a little rat faced goof
10:15 PM AbelMorpheus AbelMorpheus has entered the room
10:15 PM fishbulb fishbulb has left the room
10:15 PM Phillygrump Phillygrump has left the room
10:14 PM canoli you know he's happy he moved East!
10:14 PM Vanflyer FG- agreed. He has a Lapperiere type of grit and heart.
10:14 PM PhilsFanDrew they signed Kennedy first and the Flyers made Talbot a nice offer
10:14 PM canoli he's got 9 goals in 30 games - had 8 all last year
10:14 PM MDFlyerFan MDFlyerFan has left the room
10:14 PM Lunatic Lunatic has left the room
10:13 PM Flyerguy i think talbot is my favorite new addition to the flyers
10:13 PM canoli can't believe I wanted to keep Powe over signing Talbot...
10:13 PM Vanflyer MD- the best part is we signed him for 4 (5 years)?
10:13 PM Mad Dog agree VF. Talbot is being nothing short of huge so far.
10:13 PM canoli Must've been - almost no doubt about it now that we see these guys, the way they're all playing for each other
10:13 PM hf101 maybe Talbot wanted to leave?
10:13 PM PhilsFanDrew I think it came down to Kennedy vs Talbot
10:13 PM Samifan Samifan has left the room
10:12 PM Vanflyer How does Pitts let Talbot go? I never knew he was such a character and versatile player.
10:12 PM Vincent05 this team is like pit last year when they lost crosby and malkin
10:12 PM hf101 yep MD
10:12 PM canoli 4 games in a row for Simmonds
10:12 PM canoli Wayne kept his going though
10:12 PM Mad Dog i really start to think Richards and Carter were ruining the locker room.
10:12 PM canoli yeah, hell 6 games in a row is still pretty great for Harts
10:12 PM Flyerguy There's no I in TEAM
10:12 PM hf101 hartnell broke his scoring streak, thats right
10:12 PM canoli unbelievable difference isn't it MD? an actual T-E-A-M
10:11 PM Phillygrump Ha! Nice win.
10:11 PM Irishjim OLE OLE OLE OLE
10:11 PM canoli Sweet.
10:11 PM Flyerguy damn i wanted harts to score
10:11 PM Mad Dog the team is really playing like a team... what a contrast with the last season.
10:11 PM Irishjim take a DRINK
10:11 PM Leach27 that's it. get outta here habs
10:11 PM canoli 7 in a row - Jan. 2002 last 7-game win streak
10:11 PM brelic 7 in a row
10:11 PM Vincent05 oh crap for them
10:11 PM brelic sweet!
10:11 PM Irishjim OLE OLE OLE OLE
10:11 PM FlyersFan4Life winner winner chicken dinner
10:11 PM canoli YA!!
10:11 PM hf101 WIN!
10:11 PM canoli Briere with anohter critical FO win
10:10 PM FlyersFan4Life oley oley
10:10 PM Leach27 not for us brelic
10:10 PM brelic wow, that was a stupid play
10:10 PM Leach27 icing. lol
10:10 PM FlyersFan4Life booooooooooooooooooyah
10:10 PM hf101 exciting ending
10:10 PM Vincent05 agreed canoli
10:10 PM FlyersFan4Life wow
10:10 PM FlyersFan4Life 7 in a row
10:10 PM canoli wow Bob - awesome focus!
10:09 PM canoli good clear
10:09 PM canoli way to go Couts
10:09 PM Vanflyer ******* Canadien fans.
10:09 PM canoli One Minute
10:09 PM MDFlyerFan Empty net
10:09 PM Vincent05 empty net
10:09 PM hf101 some solid pressure by montreal
10:09 PM canoli great PK though
10:09 PM canoli Oh god - this late in a game? that borderline sh!t? Crap call
10:08 PM Vanflyer Talbot did grab him, but wow is that guy a pee wee skater.
10:08 PM FlyersFan4Life bob with a empty net goal ?
10:08 PM Mad Dog well, it's a penalty, but borderline at best.
10:08 PM canoli nah, not at all. It's okay to trip the puck carrier once in awhile apparently
10:08 PM canoli here we go...read tripped? no.
10:08 PM Irishjim how the F**kKKKKKKKK is that a penalty
10:07 PM canoli we all knew it was coming
10:07 PM Mad Dog oh Gawd
10:07 PM Lunatic IHMM!
10:07 PM Leach27 there's the mandatory penalty
10:07 PM canoli buncha fkn Bullshit
10:07 PM brelic right on cue
10:07 PM brelic of course
10:07 PM hf101 talbot penalty
10:07 PM canoli of course - there it is
10:07 PM Vincent05 there u go
10:07 PM Vanflyer Simmonds has been a pleasant surprise, as has Voracek. I thought Courierer was the jewel of the crown on the Carter trade and Schenn on Richards.
10:07 PM PhilsFanDrew ha
10:07 PM PhilsFanDrew hartnell
10:06 PM canoli goddamn you Lee - in the way
10:06 PM MDFlyerFan Like the way Simmonfs was digging at the net
10:06 PM PhilsFanDrew but they are having no trouble scoring and they are winning
10:06 PM canoli fighting hard in the crease - that looked good
10:06 PM Mad Dog lol
10:06 PM Irishjim hey jvr just got on camera
10:05 PM canoli well JVR was in the mix on that scrum!
10:05 PM PhilsFanDrew would i like to see JVR dominate and score more, sure
10:05 PM Vanflyer Can- I get it. I think we all expected he would bring his "PLAYOFF" game to the regular season.
10:05 PM Mad Dog yeah Canoli. a far cry from the last year playoffs.
10:05 PM hf101 hey digity, I've moved ahead of ya
10:05 PM PhilsFanDrew i try not to focus on who is scoring
10:05 PM canoli at least 1/game for crying out loud!
10:05 PM canoli i really hoped we'd see a lot of dominating shifts from him this year
10:05 PM canoli the way he was in the POs last year
10:04 PM canoli yeah I mean he was good - good enough. But far from dominant
10:04 PM Vanflyer I thought he had a fine game against the caps. He was overshadowed by Talbot and Voracek, but he had a good game.
10:04 PM canoli that's right HF - so maybe it is the groin still acting up
10:04 PM Irishjim and how far did i drop from # 2 i see a bunch of losses
10:04 PM Samifan time for a Jagr bomb
10:03 PM hf101 he just doesn't have the power in his stride this season
10:03 PM canoli i don't know I honestly can't remember the last good shift he had - maybe 1 or 2 in the caps game
10:03 PM Digityman rod - you are #1 in tokens as of right now
10:03 PM brelic kinda weird
10:03 PM Vanflyer Canoli- he is still producing. I agree he has not taken the next step like we thought and vanishes at times, but prior to being injured he was on pace for a 32 / 32 +15 season.
10:03 PM canoli early
10:03 PM Leach27 nyr losing
10:03 PM brelic i mean, he's on pace for a career high 57 pts, but he's a non-factor in most games
10:03 PM canoli oh that's right, yeah he was out for a bit
10:03 PM PhilsFanDrew yep HF
10:02 PM hf101 didn't JVR have a groin issue?
10:02 PM Samifan Samifan has entered the room
10:02 PM canoli absolutely MD - that's the word - doggin it
10:02 PM PhilsFanDrew yeah he was out for like 5 games
10:02 PM Vincent05 JVR is saving himself for the playoffs
10:02 PM canoli i don't think I remember him getting hurt this year - did he?
10:02 PM Mad Dog JVR is dogging it, Canoli... more often than not.
10:02 PM canoli from what? when?
10:02 PM PhilsFanDrew or at least not 100%
10:02 PM PhilsFanDrew i still think he is hurt
10:02 PM canoli season
10:02 PM canoli hate to keep raggin on JVR but he is really pissing me off this seaon
10:01 PM PhilsFanDrew how dare the Flyers get a PP in the 3rd with the lead
10:01 PM hf101 probably will last 10 sec
10:01 PM Lunatic Refs give and take
10:01 PM PhilsFanDrew uh oh Bettman is already getting ready to issue reprimands to these refs
10:01 PM Leach27 it can't be
10:01 PM MDFlyerFan Penalty on Mtl
10:01 PM canoli unreal...
10:01 PM Leach27 omg
10:01 PM hf101 pp
10:01 PM FlyersFan4Life wow flyers pp
10:01 PM canoli jvr useless again on the 4check
10:01 PM FlyersFan4Life i never can watch the last 5mins of game kinda superstitious
10:00 PM Vanflyer my feed is fine.
10:00 PM hf101 no
10:00 PM PhilsFanDrew seriously canoli eller was off by about 10 ft
09:59 PM FlyersFan4Life anyone else have trouble watching the 5mins of flyers game
09:59 PM canoli Look at that sh!t - anohter offside no call
09:59 PM MDFlyerFan You gotta be kidding? Hal Gill? Yeah, that's a laugh
09:59 PM Vanflyer Well- MD, you saw my posts regarding that. (gil / carle). Truthfully, Carle gets a bit too much whipping, especially recently. He is trading 24 minute nights with Coburn on a regular basis (instead of leaning on Kimmo).
09:59 PM Leach27 he might be done for good
09:59 PM canoli wtg Danny good FO win
09:59 PM Samifan Samifan has left the room
09:58 PM Vincent05 we all piss leach but nothing can be done about it
09:58 PM Leach27 j/k
09:58 PM hf101 yeah, true,
09:58 PM Leach27 no he's banging yours vanflyer
09:58 PM Mad Dog MDFLyer -- there were some talks here about possibly trading Carle for Gill. I had to laugh it off.
09:58 PM PhilsFanDrew agree Canoli
09:58 PM canoli i think Lavy wanted to get Bryz going - lot of starts, that's what he needs
09:57 PM Vincent05 man this is sweet, team is still scoring like crazy. even without G
09:57 PM Lunatic I hope we can keep Bob
09:57 PM Vanflyer Leach- is he banging you wife?
09:57 PM MDFlyerFan MD: who wants Hal Gill?
09:57 PM hf101 kinda surprised bob didn't get any of those b to b games
09:57 PM Leach27 Am I allowed to be pissed about pronger
09:57 PM canoli hasn't played in a long time
09:57 PM canoli bob is sharp yep
09:56 PM Irishjim jewish ice tea
09:56 PM brelic montreal's putting the pressure on
09:56 PM Lunatic Bob looks good
09:56 PM MDFlyerFan Scrambling on D right now..
09:56 PM PhilsFanDrew PhilsFanDrew has entered the room
09:56 PM hf101 LOL MD
09:56 PM canoli fkn guy is playing the perimeter the whole damn game
09:56 PM canoli oh christ Riemsdyk DO SOMETHING willya?
09:56 PM Vanflyer Rosenbergs!!! (just remembered).
09:56 PM PhilsFanDrew PhilsFanDrew has left the room
09:55 PM Irishjim can't remember
09:55 PM Vanflyer MD- thank god a voice of reason regarding Carle.
09:55 PM canoli Vora just saved a goal by Gill
09:55 PM Vanflyer IJ- no, its in a brown carton. Locally made.
09:55 PM Mad Dog Carle with 3 assists. another huge night for him. and people want to trade him for Hal Gill??
09:54 PM Irishjim or brisk
09:54 PM Irishjim what ice tea Arizona
09:54 PM brelic kinda like read
09:54 PM brelic i think he was undrafted
09:54 PM Vanflyer Who is that Desjharnie dude? I have to go look him up. He is very good.
09:53 PM canoli you would think so right PFD? but they're so spoiled from all the home calls they get
09:53 PM Vanflyer IJ- there nice, but the krimpets are my fav. Especially with that one local ice tea (I forget).
09:53 PM canoli nice hit Matt Read
09:53 PM Mad Dog hahahaha
09:52 PM brelic bah, they're just passionate.. i prefer that to places where people don't give a sh!t about hockey
09:52 PM Vanflyer I heard it when my GF finished.
09:52 PM Irishjim peanutbutter kandykakes
09:52 PM Samifan has anyone heard that OLE OLE bullshit tonight?
09:52 PM PhilsFanDrew Habs fans should be less ignorant of the game yet they moan everytime one of their players hits the ice
09:52 PM Mad Dog man, this desharnais is a really nice player.
09:52 PM canoli little f@ggot montral fans screaming like girls for penalties. good god they should be embarrassed
09:52 PM Irishjim FG SHHHHHHHHH
09:51 PM Vanflyer Or jelly krimpets?
09:51 PM FlyersFan4Life i dont know they kept leades for just about 6games
09:51 PM Vincent05 jim
09:51 PM Vanflyer Irish Jim- did you get butterscotch krimpets?
09:51 PM PhilsFanDrew dude i hate Habs fans worse than Caps fans
09:51 PM Digityman Digityman has entered the room
09:51 PM Flyerguy they blow them
09:51 PM Flyerguy flyers don't keep leads
09:51 PM Flyerguy no
09:51 PM Irishjim vince tastycake time
09:51 PM brelic ok, keep the damn lead now
09:51 PM Flyerguy nice set up
09:51 PM canoli guaranfknteed
09:51 PM Flyerguy mez been recently good
09:51 PM Vanflyer Mesz just scored now!
09:51 PM canoli oh yeah you know that's coming Dog
09:51 PM Irishjim F cking Yeah BABY
09:50 PM PhilsFanDrew Little Happy Gilmore
09:50 PM PhilsFanDrew haha FF4L
09:50 PM Mad Dog time for teh refs to call another lame penalty
09:50 PM Leach27 lol
09:50 PM FlyersFan4Life the price is wrong bitch
09:50 PM Vanflyer My delay is about 20 seconds!
09:50 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has entered the room
09:50 PM canoli Alight MEZ!! way to go - what a rocket
09:50 PM Leach27 hurrrayyy!
09:50 PM brelic NICE!
09:50 PM MDFlyerFan Sorry. Mez!
09:50 PM Vincent05 dude has a cannon
09:50 PM Mad Dog niiiice
09:50 PM FlyersFan4Life boooooooooooooooooom
09:49 PM Samifan MD@they're working hard? Are they working weekends and overtime as well (old SNL skit with George W)
09:48 PM brelic PFD, yeah
09:48 PM Vanflyer Well, just MHO. You can see how one would read that. I want the two BLACK guys to fight.
09:48 PM PhilsFanDrew it might not be politically correct but i wouldn't consider it racist
09:48 PM Irishjim VAn he's just quoting McNabb vs Owens
09:48 PM MDFlyerFan Bettina said the league is working hard to protect players
09:48 PM PhilsFanDrew how is it racist?
09:47 PM Mad Dog i thought there is no censorship too.
09:47 PM canoli missed it too
09:47 PM Vanflyer PFD- that is a very racist thing to say. Just saying.
09:47 PM PhilsFanDrew brelic from the Corey Perry elbow right?
09:47 PM Samifan did anyone hear what Buttman said about all the concussions. i missed it
09:47 PM hf101 was before google
09:47 PM canoli like to see Harts get the GW - make it 7 in a row!
09:47 PM Irishjim PFD you stole my McNabb qoute
09:47 PM brelic missed 5 games in january 2009 to concussion
09:47 PM Vanflyer I thought this was a R rated forum.
09:47 PM hf101 ahhF**k
09:47 PM Vanflyer I think we are pissed and our lines have been too scrambled because of all the PK.
09:47 PM PhilsFanDrew little black on black crime
09:47 PM canoli worst barn in the league for home calls
09:47 PM HagFlyFan 16 HagFlyFan 16 has left the room
09:46 PM PhilsFanDrew I really wanna see Simmonds throw hands with Subban
09:46 PM hf101 ahF**k, ohshit,
09:46 PM roo28 roo28 has entered the room
09:46 PM canoli it's the bell ctr - usual crap
09:46 PM Vanflyer Canoli- thats what his BF says too!
09:46 PM PhilsFanDrew darche is a douche
09:46 PM brelic we;re looking a bit scattered
09:46 PM Irishjim sami just curse, like this f**k, sh!t balls pu$$y
09:45 PM canoli frkkn darsh drops his stick at every touch
09:45 PM Samifan i was hoping it was his first
09:45 PM Vanflyer HF- agreed. I did a bit of reffing in some beer leagues and would NEVER call that. If the player was to loosy goosy on his stick and another guy just knocked it out- shame on him.
09:45 PM Samifan @@%#
09:45 PM Vincent05 they need to stop the penalties so the 1st line can be out more
09:45 PM brelic a few years ago i think
09:45 PM brelic sami yes
09:45 PM Mad Dog this was no slash.
09:45 PM PhilsFanDrew I was taught to keep a firm grip on a hockey stick. Not super tight but on a scale of 1-10, about a 7
09:45 PM canoli feels like we're playing the Pens
09:45 PM Mad Dog no kidding canoli
09:45 PM DaGreatGazoo DaGreatGazoo has left the room
09:45 PM Samifan @brelic- G has been concussed before?
09:44 PM canoli some real sh!t calls tonight
09:44 PM canoli canoli has entered the room
09:44 PM hf101 I think that works for non serious hockey as well, van
09:44 PM Stuff Stuff has entered the room
09:44 PM SKiFit SKiFit has left the room
09:43 PM brelic yes he has
09:43 PM hf101 first time to the game chat grump?
09:43 PM Vanflyer You know when I played serious hockey- I was taught to keep a tight grip on my stick. Other players would always try and knock your stick out of the hands.
09:43 PM HagFlyFan 16 HagFlyFan 16 has entered the room
09:43 PM Samifan anyone know if G-Roo has ever had a concusion before?
09:42 PM Phillygrump This is awesome.
09:42 PM brelic that's three PKs that Coots can't help out with
09:42 PM Mad Dog lame
09:42 PM PhilsFanDrew it was my grandmother could hold a stick firmer than Darche
09:42 PM Mad Dog that's no slash...
09:42 PM Vanflyer Thats a bullshit call.
09:42 PM Lunatic Lunatic has entered the room
09:42 PM Irishjim ferrao is saying thats a weak slash
09:42 PM PhilsFanDrew 2 mins for limp hand on stick
09:41 PM Samifan hextall is not playing. still rehabing from back surgery. he will take the "ambassador" spot that bernie had before he decided to play
09:41 PM Mad Dog f**k
09:41 PM hf101 lazy stick
09:41 PM PhilsFanDrew slashing
09:41 PM Mad Dog what is the penalty for??
09:41 PM hf101 can't do that....no discipline
09:41 PM brelic coots again?
09:41 PM Flyerguy how would we get him under the cap
09:41 PM Irishjim WTF another penalty
09:41 PM Vanflyer That desharnie (sp) is a nice player.
09:41 PM Flyerguy WEBER
09:41 PM brelic another penalty???????????
09:41 PM hf101 Hextall isn't playing I believe
09:41 PM Flyerguy ugh
09:41 PM Leach27 let the trade rumors begin
09:41 PM PhilsFanDrew they should lock him and sestito in a room and whoever comes out alive wins a roster spot
09:40 PM Leach27 just got in. terrible news about pronger.
09:40 PM brelic 1:12 TOI
09:40 PM brelic me too
09:40 PM Vanflyer hextall is going to be at the Winter Classic?
09:40 PM Flyerguy my man
09:40 PM hf101 oh, shelley is playing this game
09:40 PM Flyerguy shelly
09:40 PM PhilsFanDrew ha first time i heard jody shelley's name
09:40 PM Leach27 Leach27 has entered the room
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09:38 PM DaGreatGazoo DaGreatGazoo has entered the room
09:38 PM hf101 yeah, that is why I picked them
09:38 PM PhilsFanDrew minus the playoffs hasn't the bell centre been a house of horrors for the flyers
09:38 PM Flyerguy :0
09:38 PM hf101
09:37 PM hf101 I picked montreal
09:37 PM Vanflyer (joking)
09:37 PM Flyerguy lol
09:37 PM PhilsFanDrew ha
09:37 PM hf101 LA 2 Columbus 1 Final
09:37 PM Vanflyer PFD- you too.
09:37 PM Vanflyer Shut up FG- keep the faith!
09:37 PM PhilsFanDrew me too flyer
09:37 PM Flyerguy bad feeling about this game
09:37 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has entered the room
09:37 PM DaGreatGazoo DaGreatGazoo has left the room
09:37 PM Irishjim 101 shhhhhhhhh
09:36 PM hf101 Flyers haven't won 7 games in a row in nearly a decade
09:36 PM hf101 hf101 has entered the room
09:36 PM Vanflyer It showed up now.
09:35 PM brelic hmm, my iphone post didn't show up
09:35 PM Vanflyer Brelic- you are good.
09:35 PM brelic test
09:35 PM OH1FlyersFan OH1FlyersFan has left the room
09:34 PM Vanflyer (meant Yo- not You).
09:33 PM Digityman Digityman has left the room
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09:33 PM Vanflyer You OH1- How are things?
09:33 PM hf101 hf101 has left the room
09:32 PM Vanflyer @PFD- I did not see the first, but from the second- you seem to be watching a different game than I am.
09:32 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has left the room
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09:31 PM OH1FlyersFan Yeah, 3-3.....Flyers 3, Montreal 1, and refs 2.
09:31 PM brelic Oh didn't see the stick. Thought Jags tripped over the body
09:30 PM OH1FlyersFan OH1FlyersFan has entered the room
09:30 PM hf101 hf101 has entered the room
09:29 PM Vanflyer @Brelic- lets think of it this way: when a forward has a breakaway and the defender dives to try and get him and does not hit the puck first but trips the forward with his stick, it is a penalty. Same thing here: the defender did not make a play on the puck and tripped Jagr (the latter more blatant than the former).
09:28 PM hf101 hf101 has left the room
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09:26 PM Vanflyer PFD- Not so sure about that because their (mon) second goal had interfence written all over it as they pushed the Flyer defender into Bobs.
09:24 PM MDFlyerFan MDFlyerFan has left the room
09:23 PM PhilsFanDrew their no goal should have counted they are lucky that Rinaldo didn't get called for interference on Z's goal
09:23 PM Flyerguy i lefted and now its 3-3 ?
09:23 PM PhilsFanDrew we are actually fortunate to be tied
09:23 PM canoli canoli has left the room
09:22 PM brelic Van, i don't know, i'd have to see it again, but when it first happened, my reaction wasn't that it should have been a penalty
09:22 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has entered the room
09:22 PM PhilsFanDrew and careless stick penalties (high sticking)
09:21 PM Vanflyer For those that are under 18- sorry for the F-bombs.
09:21 PM PhilsFanDrew its the lazy stick penalties that bother me
09:21 PM Vanflyer Brelic are you kidding me?? He was making a hockey play and made the cut and the defender fell down into him!!! Whether intentional or not, when a forward is making a move and the other guy falls down and trips the offensive player- its a penalty.
09:21 PM PhilsFanDrew some penalties you are just going to get called on for physical play and effort
09:21 PM FlyersFan4Life FlyersFan4Life has left the room
09:20 PM PhilsFanDrew I don't mind hustle penalties
09:20 PM Vincent05 be back for 3rd, dinner time
09:20 PM JRantajoki yes like last 30 years
09:20 PM Samifan Samifan has left the room
09:19 PM brelic but our team has a serious problem with discipline
09:19 PM hf101 2-1 LA
09:19 PM Vanflyer See- that how good those French-Canadian girls are in bed.
09:19 PM Vincent05 they better play a disciipline 3rd per
09:19 PM DaGreatGazoo He shuld. Awful period by zebras.
09:19 PM JRantajoki JRantajoki has entered the room
09:19 PM Digityman someone said it already but the next episode of 24/7 should be great with this game
09:19 PM MDFlyerFan Whoops...4 on 4 start the third period
09:19 PM brelic i don't think jagr was tripped... jagr decided to cut to the middle over a sprawling body
09:18 PM PhilsFanDrew hear
09:18 PM hf101 some choice words from lavy to the officials
09:18 PM PhilsFanDrew har
09:18 PM Phillygrump One period left to win.
09:18 PM PhilsFanDrew can't wait to here all of what Lavy is saying on 24/7 next week
09:18 PM Phillygrump Lavvy is all over them. Good.
09:18 PM Vanflyer but Brelic- who gives a f**k on the Coots slash. That would have never have happened if the whistle is called on the Jagr trip!
09:18 PM brelic this was getting stupid
09:18 PM brelic good
09:18 PM MDFlyerFan 4-
09:18 PM DaGreatGazoo Ha ha.
09:18 PM hf101 haha pp over
09:18 PM PhilsFanDrew PP over
09:18 PM FlyersFan4Life hey look make up call
09:18 PM PhilsFanDrew good
09:17 PM Phillygrump you're right brelic, but how do you catch that and miss a blatant trip that busted up a 2 on 1
09:17 PM FlyersFan4Life that was not intentional
09:17 PM Vanflyer That non call on Jagr is horrible.
09:17 PM MDFlyerFan Wtf
09:17 PM Vanflyer Lavy should be pissed!
09:17 PM brelic oh for f**k sakes
09:17 PM FlyersFan4Life another pp
09:17 PM Vincent05 f**k anothe penalty
09:17 PM MDFlyerFan Another call?
09:16 PM brelic seriously, though, that was a textbook slash that coots did.. and he did it twice!
09:16 PM FlyersFan4Life lavy is pissed
09:16 PM Samifan Samifan has entered the room
09:16 PM Phillygrump What a gift.
09:16 PM MDFlyerFan Wasnt a kicking motion
09:15 PM Phillygrump Well, if they were upset about the waved off goal, they got it back in a big way.
09:15 PM PhilsFanDrew they will give them that since they blew the earlier no goal
09:15 PM DaGreatGazoo Good
09:15 PM brelic it will count though
09:15 PM MDFlyerFan Under review?
09:15 PM FlyersFan4Life please
09:15 PM FlyersFan4Life no goal
09:15 PM DaGreatGazoo Horrible.
09:15 PM Vanflyer PG- that one was BULLSHIT.
09:15 PM brelic kicked it in
09:15 PM Phillygrump Come on.
09:14 PM PhilsFanDrew bound to get burned
09:14 PM PhilsFanDrew way too many penalties
09:14 PM Phillygrump Jagr gets tripped directly disrupting a 2 on 1 and they do nothing and then Flyers get called for a slash that disrupts nothing.
09:14 PM brelic 15 ******* seconds left
09:14 PM Vanflyer How is that not a ******* penalty. I did not know it was legal to slide on the ice and take another players legs out without a penalty.
09:14 PM FlyersFan4Life F**kign refs
09:14 PM DaGreatGazoo f**k!
09:14 PM MDFlyerFan Damn. That was quick
09:14 PM PhilsFanDrew you gotta be kidding me
09:14 PM FlyersFan4Life ******* bob
09:14 PM Vincent05 6 pp for the habs, ridiculous
09:13 PM brelic coots not having a good game
09:13 PM Phillygrump That was BS.
09:13 PM brelic well, couturier kinda made it hard not to call
09:13 PM DaGreatGazoo ******* homecooking call
09:13 PM Vanflyer Wow!!
09:13 PM FlyersFan4Life jagr tripped no call
09:13 PM Vanflyer Leino is the guy that is out indefinitely (or for weeks according to Lindy on the Rough).
09:13 PM Irishjim can are guys stop falling on bob
09:13 PM MDFlyerFan It was a wild game down here! His puck control behind the net was incredible. Worked his ass off. Simmons reminds me a little of Tocchet.. Tough with a scoring touch. Just wish he scored more
09:13 PM FlyersFan4Life again
09:12 PM brelic wtf are we getting a penalty for?
09:12 PM Phillygrump Penalty on Philly?
09:12 PM Phillygrump Are you kidding?
09:12 PM PhilsFanDrew Vincent: similar skill set, Voracek is better
09:12 PM brelic i meant groove
09:12 PM brelic whoa, what the hell's a grollove?
09:12 PM Vanflyer I really like Simmonds too. It is interesting to see how all the pieces are starting to fit.
09:11 PM Vincent05 Leino can't be compare to voracek
09:11 PM PhilsFanDrew Buffalo would like to know too Irish
09:11 PM brelic *lull
09:11 PM brelic simmonds has found his grollove again after a lu
09:11 PM Irishjim who's leino
09:11 PM PhilsFanDrew basically a bigger, stronger, faster, more talented version of Leino
09:11 PM brelic nice late period goal
09:11 PM Vanflyer MDF- Voracek is becoming one of my fav Flyers. Slow to start the year, but he has allot of skill and size.
09:11 PM DaGreatGazoo Vorachek is really stepping up.
09:11 PM Irishjim o thats righ MD you were at the caps game. man you saw one hell of a game
09:11 PM PhilsFanDrew great passer
09:11 PM PhilsFanDrew hard worker on the boards and protects the puck well.
09:10 PM PhilsFanDrew I like Voracek a lot
09:10 PM Vincent05 that's what we need to do more, crash the crease
09:10 PM FlyersFan4Life simmonds the new and improved claude grioux
09:10 PM Irishjim my brother from another mother
09:10 PM MDFlyerFan What does everyone think of Voracek(spelling)? Saw him in DC the other night for the first time...impressive. GOAL!
09:10 PM brelic sweet!!
09:10 PM Irishjim SWEET
09:10 PM DaGreatGazoo f**k yeah
09:09 PM Vanflyer PFD- I liked their movement. The cross center pass through the circles freaks me out a bit, but it connecting.
09:09 PM FlyersFan4Life sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet
09:09 PM PhilsFanDrew SIMMER!
09:09 PM Vincent05 Simmonds
09:09 PM Phillygrump Yeahyeah
09:09 PM hf101 simmonds
09:09 PM FlyersFan4Life wanye simmonds
09:09 PM hf101 LA 1- Columbus -1
09:09 PM PhilsFanDrew get traffic and get shots on net
09:09 PM PhilsFanDrew too many guys trying to emulate Giroux
09:09 PM Vanflyer I am really starting to like Voracek allot!
09:09 PM killjoysfly killjoysfly has left the room
09:08 PM PhilsFanDrew need to simplify the PP
09:08 PM Vanflyer close FF3L (on Briere!)
09:07 PM Vanflyer oops- hooked on phonics again: here.
09:07 PM hf101 hf101 has entered the room
09:07 PM Vanflyer Hear we go boys.
09:07 PM MDFlyerFan Love it even more when they. PO when they're called for a tripping or hooking minor
09:06 PM Vincent05 2nd unit needs to get going
09:06 PM PhilsFanDrew oh ok
09:06 PM FlyersFan4Life i say danny boy gets a goal
09:06 PM Vanflyer NP PFD. The feed from Washington was much better (maybe HD).
09:06 PM PhilsFanDrew I'm watching in HD
09:06 PM Vincent05 PP, we need to score
09:06 PM FlyersFan4Life pp coming
09:06 PM Vanflyer agree MDFF.
09:05 PM PhilsFanDrew its cool Van, totally different watching through an internet feed
09:05 PM MDFlyerFan Can't stand Montreal fans. Every time one of their plays falls or gets hit they scream for a penalty... Goofs!
09:05 PM Irishjim yes
09:05 PM Vanflyer Is it very well or very good? I always get that backwards.
09:04 PM Vanflyer PFD- on the back side, it looked like it hit Bobs- especially the way he reacted.
09:04 PM hf101 hf101 has left the room
09:03 PM Vanflyer Okay- my bad then. If you all say he is playing very well, I will trust that. Took me a period to get the ******* feed.
09:03 PM PhilsFanDrew it hit someone in the slot and dribbled right on LeBlanc's stick
09:03 PM Flyers72 Flyers72 has entered the room
09:03 PM Irishjim remember they tend to go soft in the third period
09:03 PM Vanflyer I watched the goalie backside replay and it looked liked it hit him.
09:03 PM killjoysfly killjoysfly has entered the room
09:02 PM PhilsFanDrew he had no chance on that last one
09:02 PM canoli wow Timmonen - what a smart player
09:02 PM PhilsFanDrew the puck got tipped before it even got to him
09:02 PM brelic great play by timo
09:02 PM MDFlyerFan Bob's been pretty tough, especially on the 5 on 3
09:02 PM PhilsFanDrew wasn't a rebound
09:02 PM brelic just like TB
09:02 PM brelic they're a mediocre team
09:02 PM brelic why does montreal always give us trouble?
09:02 PM Vanflyer Well, I came late. So- that last goal was bad. Horrible rebound.
09:01 PM PhilsFanDrew Bob has been awesome what game are you watching?
09:01 PM PhilsFanDrew what Van?
09:01 PM Vanflyer Bobs is a bit shakey tonight.
09:01 PM FlyersFan4Life god i hate white people tonight just habs fans that is
09:01 PM Vanflyer Vincent. JVR only. Suter is UFA.
09:01 PM Irishjim here come the f cking OLE OLE"S
09:01 PM DaGreatGazoo They r french?
09:01 PM HeCanDazzle HeCanDazzle has left the room
09:00 PM DaGreatGazoo Life
09:00 PM Phillygrump Their boyfriends make them dress that way
09:00 PM canoli bob has had a great game, got burned there
09:00 PM Phillygrump lucky bounce
09:00 PM FlyersFan4Life why do all habs fans look gay
09:00 PM canoli fk me. lucky bounce
09:00 PM Irishjim @gazoo yes they do
08:59 PM hf101 montreal score
08:59 PM Irishjim is PK Subban even playing haven't heard his name, noticed a man of color in a habs jersey like once
08:59 PM DaGreatGazoo Daily BJ's. Relieve pressure.
08:59 PM Vanflyer Not to be the consumate JVR protector, he did have a nice game against Washington.
08:59 PM Vincent05 JVR, 1st and prospect on Phantoms for suter?
08:58 PM FlyersFan4Life i remember he worked with a trainer of some sorts
08:58 PM PhilsFanDrew i am thinking of someone else
08:58 PM PhilsFanDrew that might be it brelic
08:58 PM brelic FF4L, didn't he get some sort of plasma treatment?
08:58 PM jackhole jackhole has left the room
08:57 PM canoli jvr needs to find that Passion Lavy was talking about
08:57 PM Digityman that's it...hmm
08:57 PM PhilsFanDrew botox in the neck flyers
08:57 PM brelic trade carle for a backup
08:57 PM Vincent05 suter makes 3.5
08:57 PM FlyersFan4Life i forget what treatment did gags have that helped him get better
08:57 PM Digityman prongers money + JVR = Sutter?
08:57 PM brelic carle
08:57 PM Vanflyer Brelic- I would do it too, but you need to dump another 3.5++ m in salary.
08:56 PM MDFlyerFan MDFlyerFan has entered the room
08:56 PM Digityman Carter 1 Richards 0
08:56 PM Vincent05 I would do that FFL
08:56 PM canoli he went to the net on the 1st goal - Voracek's - maybe helped free up some space
08:56 PM Vanflyer I did not even notice, but Jagr has the C??
08:56 PM brelic i would trade him for suter in a second
08:56 PM HeCanDazzle HeCanDazzle has entered the room
08:56 PM DaGreatGazoo Haven't. Ugh.
08:55 PM FlyersFan4Life jvr trade baite for sutter
08:55 PM DaGreatGazoo I hasn't heard his name yet?
08:55 PM canoli mr invisible once again
08:55 PM Vanflyer As much as it pains me, that is a good question. I always go to the mat with him, but ....
08:55 PM canoli jvr is ... "playing" - yeah
08:55 PM FlyersFan4Life who knows jvr should be on the 1st line but he is getting out worked by 19 yr old
08:54 PM brelic *question
08:54 PM brelic DGG, great questions
08:54 PM Vanflyer Courtierer- nice play!
08:54 PM DaGreatGazoo Is jvr even playing ???
08:54 PM Vanflyer Thanks for the links guys. FirstRow still does not work, but the other two do. I will post later. I have about 5 links (if you can put up with all the ads.
08:54 PM brelic Van, is the 'van' for vancouver?
08:54 PM hf101 lol, Jim.....
08:54 PM FlyersFan4Life is jvr ever going to show up
08:54 PM FlyersFan4Life FlyersFan4Life has entered the room
08:53 PM Vanflyer Brelic- same. But I am not going to say a player should or should not play at the NHL level after 6 games.
08:53 PM brelic i wonder if any team has ever won a cup with 7 rookies in the lineup
08:53 PM Irishjim "We came alone" WTF
08:52 PM hf101 hf101 has entered the room
08:52 PM Vincent05 if he was, u guys would not enjoy the game
08:52 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has left the room
08:51 PM brelic hey, he may turn out awesome, he may be a bust, but i just want to see him play
08:51 PM Vanflyer I am surprised he is not hear to chat with all live and watch the game together. (snickers)
08:51 PM Irishjim and were's kuato and the constant we comments
08:51 PM Vanflyer Me too Brelic. Had some huge wars with Kuato regarding Schenn on the other place.
08:51 PM Irishjim i was expecting habsguy26 to be in here tonight
08:51 PM hf101 hf101 has left the room
08:50 PM Vincent05 Bob is sharp tonight for not playing alot lately
08:50 PM brelic i feel for the kid.. must really be frustrating
08:50 PM Irishjim its the youtube vid in the post correct
08:50 PM Vincent05 me too bre, wanna see him play with Jagr
08:49 PM brelic sorry FG
08:48 PM brelic ugh
08:48 PM brelic penalty?
08:48 PM Flyerguy stop bringing up pronger. It makes me sad
08:48 PM Irishjim i wanna watch 24/7 after the game anything i need to know other than don't share
08:48 PM brelic and giroux out now
08:48 PM Flyerguy FFFFFFF
08:48 PM Flyerguy seen parts
08:48 PM brelic really really sucks that pronger is not part of it
08:48 PM brelic haven't watched it yet
08:48 PM brelic was the first episode good?
08:47 PM hf101 hf101 has entered the room
08:47 PM Flyerguy rangers going look bad on hbo
08:47 PM Flyerguy hehe
08:47 PM brelic good
08:47 PM Vincent05 rangers losing 2-0
08:47 PM Irishjim at least bnetts was good on faceoffs
08:47 PM brelic and his shoulders were already shot then
08:47 PM DaGreatGazoo I will strt a tastycake shipping business. But it will cost u guys!
08:47 PM brelic he was good the first year we got him, but that's it
08:47 PM hf101 hf101 has left the room
08:46 PM brelic and betts, ugh
08:46 PM Irishjim vince i'm spreading them out. like a fine whiskey
08:46 PM Phillygrump Phillygrump has entered the room
08:46 PM Irishjim and the stash
08:46 PM Vincent05 was only joking, just enjoy them lol
08:45 PM brelic powe and nodl, see ya!
08:45 PM brelic lol jim, no i don't!
08:45 PM Irishjim thats what i do. gotta make them last
08:45 PM brelic c'mon simmonds
08:45 PM Vanflyer PP
08:45 PM Vanflyer That whole play was blown at the end of the PK.
08:45 PM Irishjim don't you miss the powe show
08:44 PM Vincent05 u should only get to eat it only when flyers score jim
08:44 PM brelic our 4th line is so much better than last year
08:44 PM Mad Dog a good hustle guy
08:44 PM Samifan Samifan has entered the room
08:44 PM PhilsFanDrew really deserved that goal
08:44 PM Vincent05 lol, yw
08:44 PM PhilsFanDrew nice cheap energy guy
08:44 PM Irishjim YEAH BABY and i get a tstycake thakes to vince
08:44 PM DaGreatGazoo He he
08:44 PM killjoysfly killjoysfly has left the room
08:43 PM brelic nice!
08:43 PM PhilsFanDrew I love Harry Z
08:43 PM FlyersFan4Life zzzzz man
08:43 PM Vanflyer WTF was that?? Who lost the check on Desharine?
08:43 PM Digityman
08:43 PM FlyersFan4Life FlyersFan4Life has entered the room
08:43 PM fishbulb Nice!!
08:43 PM Vincent05 Harry Z
08:43 PM DaGreatGazoo f**k yeah
08:43 PM hf101 flyers score, ZZZZZZZZZZ
08:43 PM PhilsFanDrew Harry Z
08:43 PM fishbulb Was a shitshow in the crease
08:43 PM fishbulb Who didn't?
08:43 PM Irishjim who fell on bob
08:43 PM brelic or was it read?
08:43 PM Vanflyer Vanflyer has entered the room
08:43 PM brelic couturier totally blew that
08:42 PM DaGreatGazoo Cmon. I can't say f**k on a goal against
08:42 PM Flyerguy ole ole ole!!
08:42 PM hf101 wtf, digity, that worked two days ago?
08:42 PM brelic the dude is like 5"2
08:42 PM Irishjim that sucked, wait for the ole ole
08:42 PM Vincent05 he had all day
08:42 PM PhilsFanDrew nice
08:42 PM fishbulb uh... wtf was that sh!t?
08:42 PM PhilsFanDrew nick pick Cole
08:42 PM hf101 aF**k
08:42 PM Vincent05 wtf, guys skates in front uncheck
08:42 PM DaGreatGazoo f**k
08:42 PM hf101 score for montreal
08:42 PM hf101 ha
08:41 PM brelic BRING BACK IGNORANCE!
08:41 PM DaGreatGazoo Gazoo helmets. I'll be rich!
08:41 PM Digityman hooking and grabbing!
08:41 PM Digityman bring back pre-lockout
08:41 PM brelic that would be awesome!
08:41 PM brelic or wear a marshmallow man suit
08:41 PM hf101 lol jim
08:41 PM Digityman there you go jim
08:41 PM Irishjim make everyone wear double-runners so the skate slower
08:41 PM DaGreatGazoo WTF. Sorry guys.
08:41 PM Phillygrump Phillygrump has left the room
08:40 PM Vincent05 either loss revenue or key players, pick your poison
08:40 PM brelic *revenue
08:40 PM brelic they can still widen the rinks, but teams have to accept loss of revenus, and cost to widen
08:40 PM hf101 ha, yep!
08:39 PM DaGreatGazoo Missed boat on bigger rinks. Shoulda done it 10 yrs ago before all new rinks built.
08:39 PM brelic if we win the cup, i think he would
08:39 PM Vincent05 lol, I said perfect for us does not mean he would
08:39 PM Irishjim do goalies know there are straps on the helmuts
08:39 PM hf101 would you?
08:39 PM hf101 why would timo give up that money?
08:39 PM brelic LeBlanc.. that sounds like a name from my area
08:39 PM Irishjim no bigger rinks its the ice capades
08:39 PM wcflyer wcflyer has left the room
08:38 PM Flyerguy Sad day for the flyers
08:38 PM hf101 nope!
08:38 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has entered the room
08:38 PM hf101 the league needs to make the ice rinks olympic sized
08:38 PM Vincent05 not if he retires hf, all his cap hit comes off
08:38 PM brelic would take out a few rows of seats though
08:38 PM hf101 he would have to be bought out vince....a waste of money....we get alot more value with Timo playing
08:38 PM LeafSuck16 LeafSuck16 has left the room
08:37 PM brelic bigger rinks is probably a good solution
08:37 PM Vincent05 maybe name Shelley so he can sit for the year? lol
08:37 PM Irishjim @brelic and its the ugliest 11-1-1 i've ever seen
08:37 PM DaGreatGazoo Big picture. WTF does the league say/do. This is a marketing nightmare. And luck or not. Look at nea injured with concussions right now.
08:37 PM brelic don't ever name another captain
08:37 PM Irishjim timmo stays he's the new desjardine
08:37 PM idahophilly idahophilly has left the room
08:36 PM brelic that's more like it
08:36 PM brelic .918 save %
08:36 PM Vincent05 Yea hf, that's why I said would be perfect
08:36 PM brelic wow, bryz is 11-1-1 in his last 14 starts
08:36 PM hf101 Timo has one more year on his contract vince
08:36 PM phlfly but if Pronger is done forever then weber will be in 7 mil range for 10 years
08:36 PM killjoysfly killjoysfly has entered the room
08:36 PM Irishjim keep an eye on hall gill is this game.
08:36 PM wcflyer wcflyer has entered the room
08:35 PM Vincent05 would be perfect if timmo retires after this year, gives us cap to go for suter if he goes to FA
08:35 PM DaGreatGazoo No way we afford him Fly.
08:35 PM brelic weber will be too expensive, imo
08:35 PM PhilsFanDrew I would try not to move a D-man in a deal because then it sort of waters down the impact of adding a #1 dman
08:35 PM phlfly \
08:35 PM phlfly in off season
08:35 PM phlfly they should keep and no trades at all, just wait until end of season, Weber will be available
08:34 PM brelic yeah, i would move timo for the right defenseman even though i love everything about timo's game
08:34 PM Phillygrump Phillygrump has entered the room
08:34 PM PhilsFanDrew given what little he is likely to produce in the next two season
08:34 PM canoli $7 mil
08:33 PM DaGreatGazoo Nmc's just killed us. Top 5 salaries for is all have them. I think.
08:33 PM PhilsFanDrew Schenn's cap hit is too high for this team
08:33 PM brelic weber isn't yet, and who knows what he will want
08:33 PM phlfly danny and timmo and we end uop with same thing, nothing
08:33 PM brelic but doughty is already signed long term
08:33 PM Vincent05 move danny and timmo to rebuild the d?
08:33 PM canoli Bob is the obvious choice + whoever
08:33 PM brelic though I covet goaltenders as much as defensemen
08:33 PM PhilsFanDrew JVR is still playing hurt IMO
08:33 PM brelic Bob is a good trading chip
08:33 PM fishbulb Doesn't Doughty have concussion issues right now? I'd take Weber
08:33 PM Phillygrump Phillygrump has left the room
08:32 PM canoli JVR is what he is - not overly impressive imo and never will be, except for a few games at a time
08:32 PM hf101 hf101 has entered the room
08:32 PM Vincent05 danny and timmo*
08:32 PM brelic franchise defensemen are worth more than forward prospects
08:32 PM Vincent05 tell danny and briere we r rebuilding then they will waive, lol
08:32 PM DaGreatGazoo Danny ain't moving his kids 3500 miles
08:32 PM brelic read, schenn, jvr, whoever
08:32 PM canoli i'd move JVR before Schenn
08:32 PM brelic i would deal anyone on this team except Giroux for a franchise defenseman
08:32 PM PhilsFanDrew I wouldn't move JVR but i would consider moving Schenn for a solid D man
08:32 PM fishbulb Kimmo gets the C?
08:32 PM hf101 hf101 has left the room
08:31 PM canoli I don't wanna start dealign our young guys either - Read, Harry, etc - none of them
08:31 PM DaGreatGazoo Who gets the C?
08:31 PM Irishjim daany boy won't waive his NTC
08:31 PM brelic lol can, pretty much
08:31 PM brelic i would trade carle and briere for doughty in a second
08:31 PM canoli sure they will. for Giroux.
08:31 PM phlfly we are not going to win a cup, but lose Shenn or JVR is not way to do a business
08:31 PM PhilsFanDrew unless they go on a really bad slide why move for one now
08:30 PM fishbulb I never feel like deadline deals work out well... team gets gouged and player doesn't have enough time to adapt.
08:30 PM brelic maybe the kings want to move DOughty
08:30 PM brelic FB, well, the only way i make a move is if I can get a stud franchise type guy
08:30 PM LeafSuck16 LeafSuck16 has entered the room
08:30 PM PhilsFanDrew why fish?
08:30 PM canoli screw that - overpaying now. We'll have to tough it out till the TD that's all
08:30 PM Vincent05 every1 has to drew. alot of teams need d now
08:30 PM phlfly So my opinion just keep as is , wait until free agency
08:30 PM fishbulb NO rush... but don't want to wait 'till Trade deadline
08:30 PM PhilsFanDrew me neither brelic
08:30 PM brelic our defensive game looks good
08:30 PM idahophilly Ok but can we plug the hole?
08:29 PM DaGreatGazoo Captaincy?
08:29 PM brelic i just don't see the rush
08:29 PM PhilsFanDrew we'd have to overpay big time to acquire a D-man right now
08:29 PM DaGreatGazoo DaGreatGazoo has entered the room
08:29 PM phlfly you can't replace Pronger or Chara
08:29 PM idahophilly facinating situation....
08:29 PM brelic bourdon is getting about 16-17 minutes per game
08:29 PM Irishjim heres always iljia and here come the f-bombs
08:29 PM PhilsFanDrew if we do go get a d-man wait until the deadline if possible
08:29 PM fishbulb But they're only get around 10 mins per game... too much pressure on the top 4. I want Gleason or someone steady by Feb.
08:29 PM DaGreatGazoo DaGreatGazoo has left the room
08:28 PM PhilsFanDrew i agree brelic
08:28 PM brelic they're playing low 20s\
08:28 PM brelic they're not playing crazy minutes
08:28 PM jackhole jackhole has entered the room
08:28 PM brelic i think Gus will get the nod over Marshall
08:28 PM brelic the bottom 2 are young and green, but eager and physical
08:28 PM fishbulb how long can kimmo/mezy/carle/coburn play these kind of minutes?
08:28 PM brelic well, our top 4 guys are solid
08:28 PM phlfly who can they get, nobody available, only players like Kaberale
08:28 PM canoli kimmo, coby, mez - they can't do 25 mins. all year and be fresh for the POs
08:28 PM fishbulb But how long can they keep it up brel
08:28 PM brelic not a knock on pronger, just that somehow, this team right now looks better defensively than it did earlier in the year
08:28 PM Samifan Samifan has left the room
08:27 PM brelic seriously, we look better defensively now without pronger than we did with him in
08:27 PM canoli guess we better go shopping - expect some movement
08:27 PM Irishjim TSN said his contract is for 5 more years
08:27 PM brelic i really don't think there's any rush
08:27 PM fishbulb he got examined every fall and failed the medical
08:27 PM canoli oh right - duh. never mind
08:27 PM hf101 Morganti says the Flyers know they have to get someone
08:27 PM Irishjim he just can't announce he's retired and wait out the term of the contract
08:26 PM fishbulb Rathje was on LTIR
08:26 PM idahophilly and it ain't a few years. It's 5-6 years.
08:26 PM canoli see that's what i thought -you can't Rathje him and get cap relief
08:26 PM Irishjim LTIR is are only relief.
08:26 PM hf101 absolutely
08:26 PM DaGreatGazoo Over 35. Cap hit.
08:26 PM fishbulb It has to do with his "over age 35" contract. They cannot be voided with retirement.
08:26 PM canoli at his age
08:26 PM canoli he'd kinda be crazy to lace em up again after "severe concussion"
08:26 PM idahophilly take
08:26 PM roo28 roo28 has left the room
08:25 PM hf101 4.921,429 till 2017
08:25 PM fishbulb No phlfly... if he retires HE DOES count against cap
08:25 PM idahophilly Who would tale him?
08:25 PM DaGreatGazoo I think he may be done. He's 37. If he's that bad-long how Crosby is struggling. He's 12 hrs younger
08:25 PM canoli ah. okay...well then that's *some* bit of good news
08:25 PM brelic apparently boston is doing the same with savard
08:25 PM fishbulb if he's LTIR for the next 4 years, he collects his cash, but it's not against the cap
08:25 PM phlfly no if he retire then no hitting the cap
08:25 PM bildo bildo has entered the room
08:25 PM brelic LTIR is the only way out
08:25 PM brelic canoli, nope
08:25 PM fishbulb Nope
08:25 PM Samifan UGH!
08:25 PM canoli but his cap hit still applies, even if he is Rathjed?
08:25 PM fishbulb steady
08:25 PM FlyersFan4Life FlyersFan4Life has left the room
08:24 PM Samifan steady or does it go down slighly each year?
08:24 PM DaGreatGazoo HF- u watching comcast?
08:24 PM fishbulb We don't want him to retire phlfly! We're stuck with his cap hit if he does
08:24 PM phlfly I don't think he will be sitting at home and collect pay check
08:24 PM brelic sami, $4.9
08:24 PM fishbulb Bob Mackenzie feeling that Pronger will be Rathje'd for the next few years
08:24 PM phlfly I think he will retired soon enough, he is honest guy
08:24 PM Samifan anyone know what Prongs cap is for the next 5 years?
08:24 PM hf101 later rod
08:24 PM flyerrod flyerrod has left the room
08:23 PM canoli sure seems that way
08:23 PM idahophilly idahophilly has entered the room
08:23 PM phlfly it's bad news , but he was not play so well since beginning of season
08:23 PM hf101 yeah, ......so this could definitely be the end of Pronger's career
08:23 PM canoli all we can do now is pray for a buyout clause I guess
08:23 PM flyerrod later guys...duty calls....
08:23 PM canoli that's right - and he's still experiencing symptoms I think - Primeau that is
08:22 PM Irishjim hey fly. good news were winning, bad news pronger done for the year
08:22 PM Samifan hey gang. Looks like Pronger will now be known as Rathje 2.0
08:22 PM hf101 Primeau is the last Flyer to be diagnosed with "severe post concussion syndrome"
08:22 PM phlfly so Pronger is out for rest of the season
08:22 PM DaGreatGazoo Hey fly
08:22 PM canoli hey youze guys - out for the season and the POs eh? ...5 more years of his cap hit... wow, prob couldn't work out worse for us
08:22 PM DaGreatGazoo Hey fly
08:22 PM FlyersFan4Life FlyersFan4Life has entered the room
08:21 PM brelic hey phlfly
08:21 PM phlfly hey people
08:21 PM phlfly phlfly has entered the room
08:20 PM PhilsFanDrew frankly if he finishes out this season the way he is playing and does the same for 2 more years he pretty much earned the money regardless of the 5 years
08:20 PM brelic he has 14 in 29 so far this year, on pace for 40 points
08:20 PM DaGreatGazoo Watching NHL network. I just wanna puke.
08:20 PM brelic Talbot had 21 points in 82 games last year
08:20 PM fishbulb fishbulb has entered the room
08:20 PM fishbulb fishbulb has left the room
08:20 PM killjoysfly killjoysfly has left the room
08:19 PM hf101 and also over 35 contracts
08:19 PM Irishjim new CBA needs to address contract length and how long guaranteed
08:19 PM canoli canoli has entered the room
08:18 PM brelic there ya go
08:18 PM brelic i thought 5.. lemme check
08:18 PM Vincent05 5 years
08:18 PM PhilsFanDrew he's young though
08:18 PM brelic correction, i don't like guaranteed contracts
08:18 PM Irishjim he got 4 correct. looks better everyday
08:18 PM hf101 we knew he was not the fourth line center
08:18 PM brelic i don't like long contracts at all
08:18 PM brelic still think that
08:18 PM brelic i never thought overpaid... i thought maybe too many years
08:18 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has left the room
08:17 PM Vincent05 I think he is underpaid now, lol
08:17 PM DaGreatGazoo Talbot is amazing.
08:17 PM hf101 overpaid??? really?
08:17 PM Irishjim talbot is worth every dime
08:17 PM brelic wow, great kill
08:17 PM PhilsFanDrew i thought they overpaid for talbot but he is certainly earning his money
08:17 PM Vincent05 5 on 4 now
08:17 PM killjoysfly killjoysfly has entered the room
08:16 PM Samifan Samifan has entered the room
08:16 PM Vincent05 talbot has been awesome this year
08:16 PM Irishjim look at bob slashing the dude in front of him
08:15 PM Digityman if bobo makes it through this...
08:15 PM DaGreatGazoo What horseshit
08:15 PM Irishjim good we stilkl have ours
08:15 PM Vincent05 montreal did jim
08:15 PM PhilsFanDrew cant wait to hear the interchange on 24/7 for this
08:15 PM Irishjim did we call a timeout
08:15 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has entered the room
08:14 PM hf101 no penalty on that
08:14 PM Irishjim are we gonna be down 2 for 45 minutes
08:14 PM hf101 bob tackled......geez
08:14 PM brelic ouch
08:14 PM flyerrod life is like a box of chocolates.....
08:14 PM Vincent05 dam another pen
08:14 PM Vanflyer Vanflyer has left the room
08:14 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has left the room
08:13 PM DaGreatGazoo Switching my name to Forrest gump
08:13 PM flyerrod no worries dgg
08:13 PM brelic that was a bad call
08:13 PM hf101 lucky break for the flyers
08:13 PM Irishjim stay out of the tidybowl dummy
08:13 PM DaGreatGazoo Sorry fly.
08:13 PM flyerrod lol..you have developed a serious stutter dgg
08:13 PM Digityman haha
08:13 PM FlyersFan4Life FlyersFan4Life has left the room
08:12 PM DaGreatGazoo Agree. Thinking deadline deal
08:12 PM DaGreatGazoo Agree. Thinking deadline deal
08:12 PM DaGreatGazoo Agree. Thinking deadline deal
08:12 PM brelic no goal!
08:12 PM flyerrod we heard you the first 3 times dgg
08:12 PM Digityman van I'm looking at how to rebroadcast for you
08:12 PM brelic teams would want an established roster player
08:12 PM Vincent05 no1 will trade u that and if they do they will want alot, I rather do for the sure thing
08:12 PM brelic schenn has little value right now
08:12 PM DaGreatGazoo Schenn culd be gone now. If he stays healthy.
08:12 PM Vanflyer be back later. Going to look for a feed that works. Tried 5 so far.
08:11 PM DaGreatGazoo Schenn culd be gone now. If he stays healthy.
08:11 PM DaGreatGazoo Schenn culd be gone now. If he stays healthy. H
08:11 PM flyerrod 4.37 mil and signeg long term
08:11 PM Vincent05 2 man down, dammit
08:11 PM Vanflyer I love Trots as a coach. Shoe string budget every year, but always competitive.
08:11 PM Irishjim WTF here come the OLE OLE's
08:11 PM Vanflyer Their GM is very smart. He is building back out (Rinne, Weber, Suter). They also just got a investor (limited partnership) that has deep pockets and they think he will be willing to infuse more capital.
08:11 PM brelic it would cost us though
08:11 PM JackStraw JackStraw has left the room
08:10 PM PhilsFanDrew whats Jack Johnson's cap hit?
08:10 PM brelic gotta be a team looking for immediate help and willing to part with prospects
08:10 PM brelic i would rather make a bold trade for a less established defenseman, but one that is a projected #1/2
08:10 PM DaGreatGazoo Carle's money demands from Flyers just went way up.
08:10 PM Digityman we might have seen the last game pronger plays
08:10 PM Flyerguy pronger is the new Rathje
08:09 PM Irishjim 1/5 of your cap on 2 d men
08:09 PM Vanflyer both of those guys are going to get 7.5 ish.
08:09 PM brelic van, i thought so too
08:09 PM hf101 hf101 has entered the room
08:09 PM Vanflyer Brelic- I am wrong. I could have sworn he signed!!
08:09 PM brelic and we can't afford that...
08:08 PM flyerrod Pronger is 4.9 mil
08:08 PM PhilsFanDrew PhilsFanDrew has entered the room
08:08 PM brelic yup
08:08 PM FlyersFan4Life sutter will want $7.5 at least
08:08 PM JackStraw JackStraw has entered the room
08:08 PM Irishjim ouch
08:08 PM Vincent05 suter making 3.5 mil and we can fit him in, weber 7.5 mil too much
08:08 PM brelic weber's current salary is $7.5M
08:08 PM Flyerguy score??
08:08 PM Irishjim at what 4.5+
08:08 PM brelic capgeek doesn't show weber's extension
08:08 PM hf101 hf101 has left the room
08:07 PM Vanflyer Weber is under contract.
08:07 PM Vanflyer Suter is going to be signed by Preds. They both have said repeatedly that they love each other.
08:07 PM Vincent05 weber rfa
08:07 PM flyerrod and looking for a contract...per his uncle the other night
08:07 PM Irishjim so is webar isn't he
08:07 PM brelic yeah, but didn't he say he wanted to stay in NSH?
08:07 PM Flyerguy Flyerguy has entered the room
08:07 PM Vincent05 suter is a FA after this year
08:07 PM brelic FB, yeah we're stuck with him no matter what
08:07 PM Vanflyer FB- only if we Rathje him, otherwise we are stuck.
08:07 PM jammer2 jammer2 has left the room
08:06 PM brelic a lot
08:06 PM brelic do you know what the cost for a guy like Suter would be?
08:06 PM Irishjim grump ecklund was throwing that out but thats ecklund
08:06 PM fishbulb Not sure we 'can' long term replace him... aren't we stuck with his contract no matter what?? Unless we 'rathje' him and don't let him retire :-)
08:06 PM Vincent05 simmonds with that great opportunity, should've buried it
08:05 PM Phillygrump I heard rumors about Philly talking to Nashville possibly about a D man. Do you think they knew about Pronger and were talking to solidify a long term replacement for him?
08:05 PM Vincent05 l8r jam
08:05 PM Digityman later
08:05 PM Digityman was wondering if he released the info because he needed to for the LTIR
08:05 PM brelic later jammer
08:05 PM jammer2 be back later guys
08:05 PM FlyersFan4Life here's what will happen. pronger will come back for game 7 stanley cup finals score the game winner vs hawks, flyers win the cup
08:05 PM brelic it's like he doesn't 'get' the message
08:05 PM brelic and Voracek on the 1st
08:05 PM jammer2 not sure digs...but if he is not on LTIR....it is imminent
08:04 PM brelic JVR on the 2nd PP unit
08:04 PM Digityman couldn't believe it was 48
08:04 PM flyerrod I still think you want to make a move before you look desperate
08:04 PM Digityman I rewinded it to check that Vince
08:04 PM Vincent05 nope, body
08:04 PM fishbulb did he use his stick?
08:04 PM Phillygrump Phillygrump has entered the room
08:04 PM Vincent05 wow briere hit someone
08:04 PM Digityman hmm
08:03 PM fishbulb Gleason is 8A with only a -1 on Carolina
08:03 PM hf101 I beleive digity that Pronger was on the LTIR for his knee
08:03 PM brelic but they could also let Carle walk if they pick up a stud D-man
08:03 PM Vanflyer My opinion is we just stay status quo as long as we don't sink the kids (Bourdon, Gus and Walker). It will serve us in the longer run (ie next year).
08:03 PM flyerrod If his injury is this serious, he can be rathje'd
08:03 PM brelic DGG, possibly trade to a team needing to reach the cap floor
08:03 PM touche22 touche22 has left the room
08:02 PM DaGreatGazoo Pronger's deal just became brutal. How do we get stud and manage cap for next yr. CBA may change but can't count on that now. Damn.
08:02 PM Vanflyer I will start a poll later that ask the question: prior to prongers injury how many thought we had good shot at SCF and post pronger injury.
08:02 PM brelic Allen is making $2.9M and also a UFA
08:02 PM fishbulb He's washed up
08:01 PM fishbulb Mike Commodore
08:01 PM flyerrod Mike Commodore?
08:01 PM fishbulb He probably will be Digi if a deal is available
08:01 PM Vanflyer Anyone that wants Gil has to be crazy.
08:01 PM flyerrod who was the big dude with Hartnell hair who used to play for Car?
08:01 PM brelic FB, yes
08:01 PM fishbulb 2.75 you said Brel?... is he a UFA?
08:01 PM Vincent05 y not go for suter? lol
08:01 PM Digityman Jammer- is pronger LTIR right now?
08:01 PM brelic not sure what it would cost
08:01 PM brelic yeah, gleason would be a good pickup
08:01 PM fishbulb I want Gleason from Caro... seems like a nice mix of grit and leadership
08:01 PM touche22 touche22 has entered the room
08:00 PM FlyersFan4Life knee hit on talbot
08:00 PM FlyersFan4Life somone kill kerble
08:00 PM Vincent05 pass
08:00 PM Irishjim yeah buddy
08:00 PM fishbulb Not I... that guy is a statue.
08:00 PM brelic screw gill
08:00 PM hf101 *Gill
08:00 PM hf101 and who wants us to trade for Gil?????
08:00 PM Vincent05 there's ur tastykake jim
07:59 PM brelic from Voracek again
07:59 PM fishbulb woohoo
07:59 PM DaGreatGazoo But they are 1 injury away on D from being really screwed now.
07:59 PM Vanflyer FB- yours did not work- but I will work on it later. Thanks both. I may compile a list and some ratings (ie intrusive vs. less intrusive on the adware / functionality).
07:59 PM fishbulb fishbulb has entered the room
07:59 PM brelic awesome signing!
07:59 PM Irishjim sweey
07:59 PM brelic Talbot!!
07:59 PM Vincent05 Talbot
07:59 PM brelic lol van!
07:59 PM flyerrod but you also want to look at making a move while you don't look desperate
07:59 PM fishbulb fishbulb has left the room
07:58 PM jammer2 other GM's might speculate that Prongs is out for longer than announced...but he just confirmed it and put himself over a barrel...wtf
07:58 PM Vanflyer Brelic- I think yours is going to work but I have Maria Carey singing a christmas song for like two minutes.
07:58 PM brelic but the flyers are also first in the conference, so there's no immediate pressure to make a move
07:58 PM brelic yes it is jammer
07:57 PM jammer2 Here is my question...if Pronger is out for *that* long, why did Homer put himself in a position of weakness and announce it when it did not have to released...that's just stupid
07:57 PM brelic wow, what a play by voracek
07:57 PM DaGreatGazoo IMO-long term.
07:57 PM DaGreatGazoo Sorry guys. iPhone. Hang with me.
07:57 PM brelic so the question is do we go for a stopgap measure, or do we go for a stud, future or present top pairing guy?
07:57 PM JackStraw JackStraw has left the room
07:56 PM Vincent05 Therien will shut Jagr down, do we want that?
07:55 PM brelic DGG, no worries
07:55 PM Digityman Digityman has entered the room
07:55 PM FlyersFan4Life wonder if chris therin can get back into playing shape lol
07:55 PM DaGreatGazoo Sorry B. Thot u meant Pronger on over 35
07:55 PM Vanflyer Thanks Brelic- going to try that next. I think I may not be able to get it because its on NHL Network (though I can not come up with a logical reason why).
07:55 PM DaGreatGazoo Sorry N.
07:55 PM DaGreatGazoo Oory B
07:54 PM DaGreatGazoo This team is cursed. I swear. Who'd we piss off?
07:54 PM brelic just to update the conversation we were having earlier
07:54 PM brelic and Shelley is not on a 35+ contract
07:54 PM brelic Gleason makes $2.75M
07:54 PM Vanflyer Thanks FB. I am trying now.
07:54 PM brelic http://www.stream2watch.me
07:53 PM Vincent05 maybe there was some truth that Homer talk to nashville
07:53 PM FlyersFan4Life guess now we wait for news on grioux
07:53 PM fishbulb http://robplay.tv/
07:53 PM fishbulb You can try this site VAN
07:53 PM DaGreatGazoo Yes it is!!
07:53 PM jammer2 I've been a proponent of being patient...but that is out the window...we need a vet for the playoffs to replace Prongs
07:52 PM Vanflyer Anyone have a feed other than FirstRow?
07:52 PM Vincent05 worst news we can get jammer
07:52 PM JackStraw JackStraw has entered the room
07:52 PM brelic Jammer, I know!
07:52 PM brelic DGG, that's a LONG time to have him on LTIR
07:52 PM jammer2 Unreal news about Pronger....WTF!?!?!
07:52 PM brelic HUGE save!!
07:52 PM DaGreatGazoo He's done. He won't be back. Simple as that.
07:52 PM brelic the flyers luck is unreal
07:52 PM Vincent05 great save bob
07:51 PM fishbulb Freakin' Ebola virus!
07:51 PM jammer2 jammer2 has entered the room
07:51 PM hf101 thats what the doctors reccommend......
07:51 PM brelic yup
07:51 PM Mad Dog holy sh!t.. must be really bad.
07:51 PM DaGreatGazoo He was fly
07:51 PM brelic Pronger is shut down for entire season plus playoffs
07:51 PM flyerrod next year or next season?
07:51 PM brelic Holmgren made it offician
07:51 PM Vincent05 update on Pronger*
07:51 PM FlyersFan4Life they recommended pronger not return for the season or playoffs, if anyone just saw that news flash on the screen
07:51 PM DaGreatGazoo Comcast reporting pronged not returning for reg season and playoffs. Per doctor. New news
07:50 PM Vincent05 update on from the game, pronger done til next year
07:50 PM flyerrod I thought he was over 35 when he signed...
07:50 PM roo28 roo28 has entered the room
07:50 PM brelic or is he?
07:50 PM brelic pretty sure he's not on a 35+
07:50 PM brelic rod, but shelley wasn't 35 when his contract came into effect
07:50 PM DaGreatGazoo Agree B.
07:50 PM fishbulb Like Carle knows how to play defense... ;-)
07:50 PM flyerrod waiving shelley will give room cap wise but he is over 35 so he still counts against the roster spot
07:49 PM brelic waiving shelley and walker gets you $2.8M right away for players we don't even use
07:48 PM Mad Dog fish, i think it's not a big issue. there are always ways around that.
07:48 PM brelic MD, yes I think so
07:47 PM flyerrod 4.9 mil per year according to capgeek for pronger
07:47 PM fishbulb Problem is if we bring in some serious $$$, we can't activiate Pronger if he's better.
07:47 PM hf101 I don't think think they will say he is out for the season unless they make a trade and put the team over the cap, so Pronger then needs to be LTIR'd
07:47 PM FlyersFan4Life rather have him out for the yr and take time off to get healthy then lose him and cost the injury his career
07:47 PM DaGreatGazoo Wheres Aziz? How much cap relief if so? Who can we afford?
07:47 PM Mad Dog meaning they can use the money to sign players, correct?
07:47 PM brelic that's one of the few ways out of this anchor of a contract
07:47 PM brelic well, he'll be on ltir
07:47 PM Samifan Samifan has left the room
07:46 PM Mad Dog what are the flyers' options cap-wise and such?
07:46 PM flyerrod for the year maybe...not the season
07:46 PM DaGreatGazoo I think so too. Didnt know if official
07:46 PM FlyersFan4Life all reports are saying he prolly is done
07:46 PM Mad Dog no word yet, Gazoo.
07:46 PM FlyersFan4Life he is done for the yr
07:46 PM flyerrod oh there must be a game on...
07:45 PM brelic DGG, not official yet
07:45 PM fishbulb FF4L... 10 yrs ago? TONS... now?... probably rarely
07:45 PM DaGreatGazoo Sorry guys. Working all day. Is pronger really out all yr? Or just rumor?
07:45 PM fishbulb meh... weak call
07:45 PM FlyersFan4Life i wonder how many player play with a consussion and dont say a word
07:45 PM flyerrod yeah...now I am 44 and crippled...
07:45 PM brelic i think crosby seems more cautious than most, but you always think you can bounce back
07:45 PM brelic but remember being 24 years old and feeling invincible?
07:44 PM brelic oh, absolutely
07:44 PM Mad Dog yeah, but you know....... family and the quality of life are more importasnt than all that combined.
07:44 PM flyerrod reebok is shitting the bed right now thinking about their loss
07:43 PM Samifan Samifan has entered the room
07:43 PM brelic he is worth tens of millions of dollars to the league, to his team, to his sponsors, etc
07:43 PM Vincent05 they were trying so hard not to bring up "that word"
07:43 PM brelic MD, yeah, and his point about Crosby probably not receiving impartial advice was interesting
07:43 PM flyerrod that is what you call a PR guru....he can spin anything....
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07:42 PM brelic
07:42 PM brelic how a 'virus' becomes knee surgery, then a season ending concussion for pronger
07:42 PM Vincent05
07:42 PM brelic lol, no, i was being facetious
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07:42 PM Mad Dog and i see Berger's point. when you get hit on teh head so much, you have to at least give it *some* consideration.
07:42 PM Vincent05 don't u mean Pronger?
07:41 PM brelic Vince, Giroux
07:41 PM Irishjim drinking game every time the crowd sings OLE OLE, take a shot
07:41 PM brelic dude was suggesting Crosby should think about retiring... quality of life and all that
07:41 PM brelic did anyone read the Howard Berger article I posted in the Pens section on Crosby?
07:41 PM Vincent05 g?
07:41 PM brelic i expect them to announce they're shutting down G for the season tomorrow
07:40 PM flyerrod his brain is small enough that it doesn't come anywhere near his skull....
07:40 PM FlyersFan4Life wonder when more updated new on grioux will be released
07:40 PM brelic kinda odd
07:40 PM brelic bob getting the start
07:40 PM Irishjim domi was to dumb to realize if he had a concussion
07:40 PM Mad Dog lol rod
07:40 PM hf101 lol
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07:39 PM flyerrod some guys do have thicker skulls than others.....look at Domi....
07:39 PM fishbulb More diagnosis, Less hiding by the players, faster game
07:39 PM brelic it used to be hush hush, now it's front and center
07:39 PM fishbulb Probably a mix of everything Brel
07:39 PM brelic and they're also really panicky about them
07:39 PM brelic are there really more? or are they just better at diagnosing them?
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07:39 PM hf101 *lindros
07:38 PM Mad Dog yeah, i guess.
07:38 PM hf101 lindrow says there are many more concussions in the league now than in his playing days
07:38 PM brelic the NHL All-Concussion team would be the best team in the league, hands down
07:38 PM hf101 team was in montreal, giroux stayed home
07:38 PM fishbulb MD... it did not go well according to TSN
07:38 PM brelic i am seriously amazed at all the concussions
07:38 PM flyerrod thank you captain obvious.....
07:38 PM Irishjim don't understand why "firstrow" doesn't work down under. its out of Sweden
07:38 PM fishbulb This is not crosby-gate... I doubt we'll get daily updates
07:38 PM Mad Dog and pronger was supposed to visit a neurologist. i wonder how it went.
07:38 PM hf101 not today
07:38 PM fishbulb Yes... he's got a concussion ;-p
07:37 PM brelic MD, nope, which is also not good
07:37 PM Mad Dog anybody heard any news on giroux by any chance?
07:37 PM brelic bah, it was eklund
07:37 PM fishbulb For sure Brel... might as well strike while they're weak
07:37 PM flyerrod whatever became of the speculation on Grossman
07:37 PM brelic GLeason and Allen
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07:36 PM brelic lol, TSN guys basically advising Homer to poach the defensemen from the Canes
07:36 PM Mad Dog Mad Dog has entered the room
07:36 PM flyerrod I can't beleive that work actually let me in on the chat room
07:35 PM Vanflyer I have one other site I will try. (I e-mailed FirstRow the other day- told them my precise location and gave them screen shots of all the redirect shite).
07:35 PM fishbulb well... it's a direct link?
07:35 PM brelic FB, firstrowsports doesn't work there
07:34 PM fishbulb Try that link VAN
07:34 PM fishbulb http://www.firstrows...hia-flyers.html
07:34 PM roo28 roo28 has entered the room
07:34 PM brelic maybe this one too http://www.vipbox.tv...ice-hockey.html
07:34 PM fishbulb Yes Van... don't DL any of those "files"
07:34 PM brelic try lshunter.tv
07:34 PM brelic van, don't install anything
07:34 PM flyerrod conflicting reports from Panotch and severalli
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07:34 PM fishbulb *is
07:34 PM DaGreatGazoo DaGreatGazoo has left the room
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07:33 PM fishbulb Well... reported on TSN which are incredibly reliable.
07:33 PM Vanflyer does anyone know what Ilivid is? Adthe is telling me I need it to watch. Just wondering if it is Malware.
07:33 PM flyerrod has that been confirmed fish?
07:33 PM brelic yup... captaincy is cursed
07:33 PM fishbulb Can't believe Prongs is out possibly for the year... guess we're starting to look for a rental.
07:32 PM fishbulb fishbulb has entered the room
07:31 PM brelic van, wow, that sucks
07:31 PM flyerrod wow...i already feel the love...
07:31 PM brelic idiots
07:31 PM brelic i can't believe CBC ever let the HNIC theme song go to TSN
07:31 PM Irishjim Irishjim has entered the room
07:31 PM Vanflyer @brelic- it did, but has since been hijacked by some sports books. I can get into the main menu page, see the games listed then click the link and it then post a phony First Row link to click to see the game. When you click- redirects to several sports book sites.
07:31 PM Stuff Stuff has left the room
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07:30 PM hf101 yes, he arrived.....oh joy
07:30 PM roo28 roo28 has entered the room
07:30 PM Digityman Digityman has entered the room
07:30 PM brelic van, does firstrowsports.tv not work where you are?
07:29 PM DaGreatGazoo ditto here..gotta move to Ipod
07:29 PM hf101 thats a bummer van
07:29 PM Vincent05 be right back, going to laptop
07:29 PM Vanflyer ******* ADTHE is ad central.
07:29 PM brelic brelic has entered the room
07:29 PM DaGreatGazoo just logged in and saw chat history..was that the real kuato? Cool, if so..glad he showed up. Don't always agree with him, but nothing wrong with th at
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07:28 PM hf101 hello dgg
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