Digityman

31 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said:

I could easily see this happening.  They probably don't make the playoffs if any one of these happens:

 

1.  Hart never gets his act together again.

2. Konecny doesn't regain his form.

3.  JVR, G, and Hayes are all <50pt players.

4.  Riskolainen is as bad as he was with Buffalo.

1) Hart has always, and will be for the foreseeable future, the linchpin to this whole team.

2) Agree to an extent.  He just needs to return to pre-covid level.  Anything more is a boon.

3) Hayes might be the only one that wouldn't reach that if he plays like he did last year.  The other two can do that fairly easily being on PP1

4) Riskolainen on the 3rd pair, far less minutes than his 20+ he averaged in Buffalo is not going to drag this team down much (if at all) even if he was as 'bad' as he was in Buffalo. 

13 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

Prefer Farabee's speed and shot on the second...JVR can float on the 3rd.

 

Not sure Giroux holds up on the top line.

 

I wouldn't mind reuniting the Oskar, Coots and TK that was so amazing out the gates before Oskar got diagnosed

 

The ol Boston Terrier second line!!!

 

Farabee Hayes Atkinson

Hayes can't keep up with them and I think would actually hold them back which would waste Farabee/Atkinson.

Our two shoot first wings need to be with someone that can set them up.  Hayes isn't that guy.

That's why I had JVR - Hayes - NAK.   NAK can fly around and try to dig the puck off the boards for JVR/Hayes.  Also a pretty heavy line. 

Or of course you could totally mess around and try:

Farabee - Couturier – Atkinson
Frost - Giroux –  Allison
JVR – Hayes – Konecny
Lindblom – Laughton - NAK

That 2nd line could be lethal but small.
 

1 minute ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

FIFY

 

Ersson and Ustimenko are about to apply some heavy pressure to Sandstrom.

 

He should be pushing hard for the backup spot behind Hart by the end of this and push whichever backup they sign out the door or his time maybe up soon here.

 

He turns 25 in January and if he isn't ready maybe you can throw him on the bust pile.

 

I hope not.

Thanks.  Not sure how I missed them.  Need more coffee.  I added them to the original post

On 7/22/2021 at 10:08 PM, SCFlyguy said:

Just reposting this because rarely does one get vindicated so completely and immediately.

 

Not only did chuck not get anything for this loser, he had to give up a 2nd and a 7th to get rid of him!!!  Lol.

 

Flyers fans need to stop drinking the koolaid.  Our players aren't any good.

You have a point.  Homer syndrome is real.   

I do think that if the cap was rising (no pandemic) Ghost would fetch at least a draft pick.   It wasn't the player/skill that was the issue.  It was the salary that came with it. 

On 7/21/2021 at 9:54 PM, SCFlyguy said:

The same Ghost every team in the league passed on 4 months ago for free?

 

Sure, the line to trade for him will be a mile long.

 

This team is going to suck.  If they don't outright suck, they are going to make the playoffs and lose in the first or second round.

 

We've seen this story before.

Do you still believe this with the current roster?

On 7/26/2021 at 5:44 PM, flyercanuck said:

On 7/26/2021 at 11:30 AM, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

 

A decade plus of futility will do that to a person...which explains how a guy like Risto must feel as a player.

 

 

 

Ever think part of the reason Buffalo sucked was

I couldn't imagine playing on a team that was probably the worst in the past decade.  Night after night of just knowing you are going to suck.  What's the point of giving it your all?  You aren't going to make the playoffs.   Would you put in the extra effort?    

Imagine playing for 5(?) coaches in 8 years?   5 different systems.  5 different expectations.   8 years of not making the playoffs and having the chance to play for the one thing you dreamt of your whole life?  

Jesus.  Advanced stats are real but they can be flawed in some areas.  Compete level and just down right depression can not be accounted for.  

On 7/26/2021 at 8:30 PM, OccamsRazor said:

But he owes Carter Hart...

 

 

I find it funny that it's Meyer's that he blows by on the outside.  Meyer's barely lays a body on him to allow a HUGE man to drive the Flyers franchise goalie.  That there is some funny sh!t.

3 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said:

If the team flames out this year, they could trade G and Couts at the deadline for a decent return and the team would have a lot of space and look a lot different next year (and likely be terrible)

I could see them trading Giroux at the deadline but not Couturier.  Couturier becomes the captain for the next 5 years.  Unfortunately the way it looks now with the flat cap, returns are down but Giroux could fetch a substantial return for a team that's going for it in the playoffs. 

I just can't see them finishing out of the PO's again which means they don't trade anyone, then resign Giroux which honestly is a bad hockey decision.  I like Giroux and want to see him finish his career here but trading him is the right 'business' decision I think.

Found this site which picks the lines for fantasy sports.  "Players ratings by corsica hockey".   

I was thinking Atkinson would be up with Giroux/Couturier but I don't like Konecny with Hayes.

I was thinking more of: 

Giroux - Couturier - Atkinson

JVR - Hayes - NAK

Farabee - Frost - Konecny

Lindblom - Laughton - Allison

That 2nd line would be more checking than the 3rd.

3rd is young but has a lot of potential.

12 hours ago, jammer2 said:

If a lot of things go our way...top 5 team. If Hart and the defense stink, bottom 5...literally could go to either extreme. 

This team as of today just feels different which is what most of us wanted.  Jake is gone, new leadership in the lockroom....It just feels like it changed.  Will it be better, worse or the same production/points wise.....not sure   

Players typically don't turn bad.   Hart, TK, Provorov, Lindblom (had a small excuse), and to some extent Hayes (although I fear it won't be much better on average) - they all didn't forget how to play.   They had off years and for whatever reason, they all had them at the same time.  I'd like to believe they all come back better at least, which should push them into the 6-8th spot just on that alone.   

Adding in a stronger Lindblom and a older Farabee, Allison and Frost who I'm convinced is going to be the first Flyer to win the Calder (even though I don't actually think he is eligible any more due to the 20 games the previous year).  Frost will be like Giroux was when he first came into the league.  He might start on the Phantoms to start the year but he'll quickly be called up and just take it from there.   He's got potential to be a 50+ point guy and if he has someone like Allison/Atkinson on his line, he'll hit 50+ assists in a few seasons.  I just wish he would have had the chance to live with Briere because I see a lot of Giroux similarities in Frost.  Size, weight, vision, hands, overall play....He might not be the Flyers first line center but he's got lots of potential if he can stay healthy.

Anyway, then Fletch fixed 3 of the 4 biggest issues on the team which could potentially push them up to the 4-6th.   And if it all comes together as it's dreamed about by Fletch, they are finishing the season 1-4th with home ice.

My guess is they finish 4th.

12 hours ago, jammer2 said:

Who knows maybe this Belarusian wonder we took in the 3rd is a steal, but on the surface, missing out on the top ranked Goalie hurt. This organization badly needs quality prospect depth there. 

Funny because for a while there goalies and defense was what the Flyers actually had.   

Current goalies in the system:  Sandstrom, Ustimenko, Ersson, Tomek, Fedotov, Kolosov   (Thanks @OccamsRazor)

Sandstrom was supposed to be the guy at one point I think.  I saw him play once, he got lit up badly and pulled in the first period.  

25gp, 3.27gaa  .885  for the Royals in 2019-20

11gp, 3.19gaa  .903 for the Phantoms in 2020-21

Ustimenko - 6'3", 187lbs, 22yrs.   Lyon's backup?

46gp, 1.78gaa, .927 in 2018-19 with Dynamo.  

31gp, 2.40gaa, .919 in 2019-20 with the Royals.   Royals weren't great either.  Pretty good numbers.

Samuel Ersson - 6'2", 178lbs, 21yrs. 

35gp, 2.90gaa, .895 in 2019-29 with Brynas (Sweden)

42gp, 2.96gaa, .911 in 2020-21 with Brynas (Sweden)

Fedotov's numbers are pretty good actually and I'd like to see him come over.   He's a huge man.  24 years old, 6'8" and 200lbs.  Could he come over and be Lyon's backup in the AHL or play in the ECHL?

32gp, 2.10gaa, .931 in 2019-20 for Traktor Chelyabinsk (KHL)

26gp, 2.21gaa, .925 in 2020-21 for Traktor Chelyabinsk (KHL)

Tomek was the next hero in line.  I know nothing about him.  

32gp, 2.34gaa  .927 in 2019-20 for HK Kukla (Slovakia)

14gp, 2.51gaa  .899 in 2020-21 for SaiPa (Liiga)

Kolosov - way too early for numbers.  6'1", 187lbs.  19 years old.  Still needs to grow into his body.

NHL:  Hart & Free Agent

AHL:  Lyon and Fedotov

ECHL: Sanstrom & ?

5 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

A Cizikas, Palmieri, Bonino or Stepan type guy.

Cizikas/Palmieri would be a good pickup.  I'm a little nervous to fill all the spots and not have anything for the kids to play for.  Right now there is one spot maybe two.  I do like having a veteran though to fill in should a kid falter. 

27 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

Just Ryan O'Reilly is not a good comparable to the Risto situation, IMO.   O'Reilly was actually good in Buffalo and produced

Yea, that's true.  

Good contract.  I like the kid.  I pray he can get a full training camp and season in.

No need to watch the draft now....

It is a lot but if they can sign him for a decent contract the defense is set for a while.   Now need to work on a top six shoot first guy.  

Dude must be overjoyed to be out of buffalo

Two picks?  Ill never understand the issue with ghost.  I liked him and would have kept

I think Chuck is going to try as hard as he can to trade before he buys out.  

I think Ghost is on the roster opening night, along with one of JVR/Jake

Not one person had this pick.

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Ho Lee Fuk

Larsson is RH.  Does that rule Braun out?  Does this change predictions on who the Krack take from the Flyers?

Can the Kraken now turn around and trade Larsson?  (What's the rules?)

I know there were a few posters wanting Larsson, so what's a realistic package the Flyers could offer.  

Carey Price?  All about the contract there I guess.

On 6/15/2021 at 5:09 PM, RonJeremy said:

can all become good NHL players as well as Frost

Man, I forgot about Frost for a little while there.   His creativity was sorely missed this year.  

@OccamsRazor  Agree.   No issue giving a first rounder like Rubtsov more time.