i really appreciate your posts but Voracek is a world class player. he's definitely "there." b schenn stinks, he will never get "there." sadly, i do think that the flyers are not very talented but it's a team sport and a great team with less talent can beat a star studded collection of players who dont play cohesively. unfortunately, the flyers fall victim - far too frequently - to not playing as "one," to not playing with passion, desperation. and, that, is why they have so much trouble with consistency. don't get me wrong, i still contend that the flyers will have trouble with truly talented teams who play together, who play with a purpose. as i said in a past post, having 2/3 of a top line won't cut it. i hope i am wrong, but...