Irishjim Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 08:33 AM ET 09.24 | The annual tradition that has become the Winter Classic, this year between the Maple Leafs and Red Wings, is on the chopping block. A league source told the Star that, barring a settlement, commissioner Gary Bettman plans to cancel it in November -- to take away any advantage the players may have at the bargaining table because of the game's popularity. "Gary told (the board of governors) he was going to cancel the Winter Classic in November because he didn't want the players to use the game as leverage," the source said. A source close to the players said the NHLPA had heard the same thing. "It's a scare tactic," the union source said. "It just proves the NHL has no intention of negotiating any time soon."The Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinahMoeHumm Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 "Gary told (the board of governors) he was going to cancel the Winter Classic in November because he didn't want the players to use the game as leverage," the source said.So they're admitting it... priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 @DinahMoeHumm I hate him more with each passing day!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 But I thought he(Bettman) did good things for the League....... -_- *Sarcasm* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 If I was a Detroit fan I be POed beyond rational reason that 1) He is using the WC as a bargaining chip and 2) that the one year they are gonna have the WC all this rediculousness has to happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinahMoeHumm Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 If I was a Detroit fan I be POed beyond rational reason that 1) He is using the WC as a bargaining chip and 2) that the one year they are gonna have the WC all this rediculousness has to happen...So if Gary does, indeed, decide to cancel the WC, do they then keep the same lineup for next season? (Assuming the NHL doesn't just implode during all of this :wacko: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I hope bettman implodes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Fehr will have to take a shower afterwards though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinahMoeHumm Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I hope bettman implodes....But then who would lead the crusade for Phoenix?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinahMoeHumm Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Fehr will have to take a shower afterwards though....Yuck! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Well he would need that shower with all Bettmans entrails splattered all over! They'd be hanging off the fixtures and everywhere.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinahMoeHumm Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 This is just going from bad to worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Bettman's entrails splattered all over........Now there is a visual that warms my heart...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 This is just going from bad to worse! Hey, think of it this way. Maybe Crosby's lips will still be attached to Bettman's ass when he implodes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan4ever Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Not to mention HBO's 24/7 and all the implies. What is he trying to accomplish? I think it's getting to the point where it is just egos now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 It's almost gotta be beyond the actual issues. There was so much momentum and so much at stake going forward. It just doesn't make sense. None of it adds up when you step back and look at it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinahMoeHumm Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 It's almost gotta be beyond the actual issues. There was so much momentum and so much at stake going forward. It just doesn't make sense. None of it adds up when you step back and look at it...Agreed. I've been trying to make sense out of it for far too long now with zero success. My mind is just numb at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Well, who would do this? If you owned a rapidly growing business and a few factories were a drag then you would close those factories or relocate them to a competative market right. And you wouldn't shut down all your factories over a 1-2% dispute with labor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinahMoeHumm Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Well, who would do this? If you owned a rapidly growing business and a few factories were a drag then you would close those factories or relocate them to a competative market right. And you wouldn't shut down all your factories over a 1-2% dispute with labor...Exactly, it's just not the way business normally works... which is why I've been pulling my hair out trying to make sense of it. Ego almost seems to be the only answer. But do you *really* risk so much solely for ego? Here I go again trying to think logically... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Well, you or I no... But if your a Bettman or Fehr then I could see it. They are both multi millionaires. It isn't about the money for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Well, you or I no... But if your a Bettman or Fehr then I could see it. They are both multi millionaires. It isn't about the money for them.Bettman HATES to lose. Period. End of sentence. The problem is, he has come up against a guy that has done something no other Union Head has done for the NHLPA. Donald Fehr unified the Players. He did it by using the truth and communicating what Bettamn would do even before he did it. The Shock and Awe of Bettman's Bravado was taken in stride by the players who received a briefing from Fehr on everything to expect. If Gary still thinks he is running this show, he is sadly mistaken. Fehr has already used the social media to his advantage and has the backing of better than 80% of the public. How many articles have you read that favor the path chosen by Bettman? I bet you can count them on one hand, at least serious writers. One of the CBC guys wrote a book about negotiating with Gary Bettman when he was trying to keep the Hockey Night In Canada contract. Let's just say he is not a Gary Fan either........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 @fan4ever That little weasel disgusts me!!! Ya know, never thought I'd pine for the good ol days of Mr.Campbell!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan4ever Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 @jammer2I guess you never really know what you got until it's gone I cringe everytime I think that this may be another season without hockey! Looking at what happened with the NHL and the officials, I think there may have to be some major catalyst to get these guys off the dime! But what, they don't seem to care much about we fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 @jammer2I guess you never really know what you got until it's gone I cringe everytime I think that this may be another season without hockey! Looking at what happened with the NHL and the officials, I think there may have to be some major catalyst to get these guys off the dime! But what, they don't seem to care much about we fans You are the grass that the cattle are allowed to feed upon by the ranch hands that work for the "boss"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 @idahophilly I am the grass all right, but *after* it's crapped out by the cattle, the end of the cycle grass...LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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