Bakanekimiwa Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 According to Carcheesy, Medvedev will be a healthy scratch this evening. While this is highly curious to the 'eye test', I thought I'd look over some of the advanced stats of the Flyer's D corp to maybe gain some insight as to why Medbedebby would be scratched. Nothing stood out. In fact, looking at all of them just makes it a bit more curious why he would be sat over just about anyone else on the D. Speculation is what we do here... sooo... what do? Are they concerned about his ice time being in his first NHL season? Are they concerned that we're not going to give the Canucks enough chances this evening? Has anyone heard anything? His ice time is 3rd of Flyer's D and his corsi is not remarkably bad or good. Strangely, Luke Schenn has the best corsi on the D, but the season is young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 According to Carcheesy, Medvedev will be a healthy scratch this evening. While this is highly curious to the 'eye test', I thought I'd look over some of the advanced stats of the Flyer's D corp to maybe gain some insight as to why Medbedebby would be scratched. Nothing stood out. In fact, looking at all of them just makes it a bit more curious why he would be sat over just about anyone else on the D. Speculation is what we do here... sooo... what do? Are they concerned about his ice time being in his first NHL season? Are they concerned that we're not going to give the Canucks enough chances this evening? Has anyone heard anything? His ice time is 3rd of Flyer's D and his corsi is not remarkably bad or good. Strangely, Luke Schenn has the best corsi on the D, but the season is young. I don't know how he is being sat over Schultz that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I don't know, but (posted in other thread) the potential of a Schultz/LSchenn pairing scares me more than anything I saw on Halloween... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 @Bakanekimiwa Bill Meltzer @billmeltzer 29m29 minutes agoMedvedev hasn't played well of late but you can say that about most every Flyers D (and forward). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 I don't know how he is being sat over Schultz that is for sure. Thing is... you could make the case for Streit sitting over Medvedev, but I guess he has scored more goals than most on the team sooo.. there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 @Bakanekimiwa do we know who is starting in his place? i was thinking over the last couple weeks, hakstol not only has extremely limited NHL experience, but extremely limited experience with the members of this team, nevermind their depth. (such as it is.) i was wondering if he might start just straight up testing things to see how they look. and handful of pre-season games only goes so far. so, i wonder if it is less medvedev, and more getting eyes on some other guys, just to know what the team's assets look like at game speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Sam Carchidi @BroadStBull 37m37 minutes agoAsked if the size of an NHL rink was affecting his play, Medvedev said, "No." He pointed to his head. "Only here," he said, smiling Sam Carchidi @BroadStBull 32m32 minutes agoMedvedev said he wasn't surprised he was told he wasn't playing tonight. "Last game, not good," he said of his performance vs. Buffalo Wow he wasn't the only one for sure. This brings me flash back of Chief scratching MDZ and yet letting Coburn go on a tear of racking up a minus in 12 straight games while looking inept! It only works when you hold everyone accountable!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 @Bakanekimiwa do we know who is starting in his place? i was thinking over the last couple weeks, hakstol not only has extremely limited NHL experience, but extremely limited experience with the members of this team, nevermind their depth. (such as it is.) i was wondering if he might start just straight up testing things to see how they look. and handful of pre-season games only goes so far. so, i wonder if it is less medvedev, and more getting eyes on some other guys, just to know what the team's assets look like at game speed. I guess Manning would be playing in his place. Dear God against one of the best PK units in the NHL this year. AND Vinny is playing....can you say blow out loss!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 @Bakanekimiwa do we know who is starting in his place? i was thinking over the last couple weeks, hakstol not only has extremely limited NHL experience, but extremely limited experience with the members of this team, nevermind their depth. (such as it is.) i was wondering if he might start just straight up testing things to see how they look. and handful of pre-season games only goes so far. so, i wonder if it is less medvedev, and more getting eyes on some other guys, just to know what the team's assets look like at game speed. I have not heard who's in his place, but for me, it's gonna be a downgrade regardless. I understand that he might have had a bad game last time out, but so did everyone else. This move is a little bit too much ala Berube for my liking, but I'm willing to reserve judgment and see what's what. I like some of the little things Hakstol has done early on in the season, so I'm cautiously optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 I guess Manning would be playing in his place. Dear God against one of the best PK units in the NHL this year. AND Vinny is playing....can you say blow out loss!!!! One could make the case that Manning has been the WORST D on the team this season. However, Nick Schultz makes that argument a little difficult. I'm guessing they're both playing tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 One could make the case that Manning has been the WORST D on the team this season. However, Nick Schultz makes that argument a little difficult. I'm guessing they're both playing tonight? By all accounts, they are... Looking like Schenn-SchultzManning-Gudas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 One could make the case that Manning has been the WORST D on the team this season. However, Nick Schultz makes that argument a little difficult. I'm guessing they're both playing tonight? That i why Rad and i had said we would have already waived him several games ago....get it over with he is just a career ALHer at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 By all accounts, they are... Looking like Schenn-SchultzManning-Gudas Happy 26th birthday to Luke Schenn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 By all accounts, they are... Looking like Schenn-SchultzManning-Gudas Interesting. Very mildly interesting. Who knows what's going on here.... it's just weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 That i why Rad and i had said we would have already waived him several games ago....get it over with he is just a career ALHer at best. remember when there were people who were absolutely positive he would be a norris candidate dman? edit: and no, bak, i didn't predict that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 One could make the case that Manning has been the WORST D on the team this season. However, Nick Schultz makes that argument a little difficult. I'm guessing they're both playing tonight? It's why the phrase (and i don't know who coined it) but it fit best here like never before... "Just rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 remember when there were people who were absolutely positive he would be a norris candidate dman? Is this a joke? And who are we talking about now i'm confused. I can't remember anyone here saying that about anyone on the Flyer's blueline. So it must be a joke.....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Schenn-SchultzManning-Gudas Ok, that made me barf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Ok, that made me barf. That D lineup right there is possibly the TOP worst D corp currently in the league. Off the top of my head, I really can't think of worse... can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Off the top of my head, I really can't think of worse... can you? I can't. The lottery pick lineup!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I really can't think of worse... can you? I see those pairs and I Can't. Think. At. All. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Is this a joke? And who are we talking about now i'm confused. I can't remember anyone here saying that about anyone on the Flyer's blueline. So it must be a joke.....right? nope, no joke. the history search on this forum is...limited, but it happened, and vigorously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 nope, no joke. the history search on this forum is...limited, but it happened, and vigorously. Which defenseman were they saying that about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hack Panach reports this from Hakstol. "Hakstol wants Medvedev to watch how his other defensemen play without the puck." I can only assume that means to say to Med, watch those guys play D and then DON'T play like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Which defenseman were they saying that about? manning. at the time, there was no roster space for him, he'd been called up for a few games, but couldn't stick. the idea was that he just wasn't getting the chance he needed, and his mobility and awareness had him on a shortlist of top dmen in the league, if only he were given the roster spot to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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