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1 minute ago, RonJeremy said:

 

20 year olds are not exactly the picture of maturity, have you ever seen what goes on at college parties and spring break. I’m not defending them if they are guilty but just being there doesn’t make you guilty. Time will tell.

That doesn't hold water. If my ten year old knows that assaulting women is wrong, then a 20 year old should know. This isn't about a drunken sexual encounter. This is five guys who took turns on this girl and ejaculated and spit on her. Don't tell me they didn't know what they were doing was wrong. They knew.

1 minute ago, ruxpin said:

My "ugh" response is about the truth in your post.

I hate it. I hate having to say that kind of stuff. At the same time, Hart has no one to blame but himself for putting himself in that position to begin with. I have no sympathy for him at all. Even if he's find not guilty, the stench of this is going to follow him in that people will know what happened in that hotel room and he participated in pile on on a young woman. There's no defending that.

1 minute ago, RonJeremy said:

I don’t know ,the NFL and NBA allow wife beaters and convicts second chances, I know the NHL is different, so some teams may want him. You know how it goes these days, people are all outraged and then it’s soon forgotten.  The mayor of DC was caught on camera smoking crack with escorts, resigned and was re-elected . Maybe Hart plays overseas for a year and comes back. The Flyers would still own his rights for a trade, unless they outright release him. Plus , how many 18 yr olds have good judgment when drinking and at a party.

Lots of 18 year olds have good judgement. They know not to put themselves in that position. And they weren't 18 when the assault took place. They were 20. Big difference.

1 minute ago, RonJeremy said:

I guess even if Hart is found innocent , he will probably be traded due to the bad publicity . I just wonder how much his value has diminished. 

Hart has no value. Nobody will touch him even if he's find not guilty. Teams will look at him as a weak character guy and someone who can't make good decisions. He's going to have to go Russia or some place like that to rehabilitate his career.

I'm hopeful that Fedotov makes an impact when he comes over. The flyers desperately need a goalie to step up. Ever since Ersson was named starter, in his 21 games, he's gone 9-8-4 with a .880 save percentage. I know I harp a lot about Ersson, but this was his chance to really grab the reins and run with the number one role and he dropped the ball. And I don't need to hear "he's a rookie" type stuff. He's going to be 25 in five months. He's played in 102 professional games and counting on North America. He's played professionally in Sweden. He's not a rookie anymore. Hopefully Fedotov can push Ersson to get to the next level. Hopefully Ersson pushes Fedotov. Steel sharpens steel. 

The Score did mention that he is on his way over to North America. The more goaltenders available, the better.

2 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

Because Torts wants to be in management and I shared this the other day in a clip and you even liked it.

 

He wanted to be in management with the Blue Jackets and Jarmo wouldn't allow it.

He'll replace Clarke and Holmgren as a senior advisor. You can already see the finger prints of what Briere is doing.

As for the rebuild/winning games/losing games/blaming players and coaches conundrum, I look at it like this. There's more than enough talent on this roster to be competitive. And I speak for myself here, but that's what I want to see - a competitive team. What aggravates me is that this is also supposed to be a development year. And while some players are doing well in the development curve, some aren't. And those who aren't, are being 'graded' to those who are. You can't do that. Everyone has different strengths and weaknesses. But that's not being addressed. Instead, they're all being developed in the same manner and when guys don't hit, that's when things go sidewards.

On top of that, some guys are getting a pass. I've been vocal about how poor Ersson has been. Mr .898 is getting a pass because "Carter Hart". No, that nonsense needs to end. Sam Ersson is a professional hockey player. Is it too much to ask him to make a save every now and then? And it's just not here that his play was like that. It was also the same in Lehigh Valley. He needs to decide whether he wants to be mediocre or good. And right now, because everyone on the team loves Sam, they aren't pushing him. Yet, a guy like Brink or Lyksell (I know, different positions) are reamed out when they miss an assignment defensively. It's about playing favourites and it's garbage coaching. 

I've said I could care less if they make or miss the playoffs. Doesn't matter to me. But I want to see consistency across the board from players and coaching and that still isn't happening. That's my biggest gripe right now.

Sam Ersson is not a number one goalie. He needs to go back into a backup role next year.

I like the idea of Kolosov coming over, even if he's getting acclimated to life in North America. That's a win. A HUGE win. Look, I get that everyone is excited about the Flyers being in the playoff hunt. It wasn't expected. And that's the thing - it wasn't expected. So, even if the club doesn't make the playoffs, at the very least, there's a lot to look forward to next year. Don't forget that there are still cap issues that need to be addressed and bodies that will need to be moved out. There's lots of work left to do in terms of the rebuild.

Continue working on the cap and getting that under control. Move on from players that don't fit into the Flyers timeline of contention. Continue working young players into the lineup. I'd love to see the defense even younger, but the Flyers are probably stuck with Ristolainen and we all know that Tortorella LOVES the try-hard-do-nothing Nick Seeler, so the defense might remain the same. But yeah, I'm keeping Kolosov away from the Flyers. Let him dominate the AHL. He'll be ready to compete for the big club in 2025. By then, there should be more salary cleared and more young players coming to the club.

32 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

I would be nice if they would put Elliot Desnoyers back at LW seems to be an after thought with the experiment at center on the Phantoms.

And yet another reason why Ian Laperriere should be **** canned...

2 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

Is he planning on signing or headed back to school haven't heard anything on him?

 

With Denver Barkey i would love to see him back in London next season and flipped to LW.

 

He is a left hand shot and he could carve out a spot in the lineups with the Phantoms and Flyer with less talent standing in his way.

 

Flyers really are in need of more talent on the left side and are stocked to the gill on the right.

I haven't heard anything about Kaplan, so I'm guessing he'll probably be back in school.

As for Barkey, he's played both left wing and center this year. Honestly, he's going to be one of those versatile forwards who can probably play all positions and not look out of place. My hope is that when he gets to Philadelphia, he plays where ever he's needed. 

I don't see a lot of left wingers available where the Flyers pick, so hopefully if they do draft one, it's Chernyshov from Russia. I'm also interested in Matvei Gridin from Muskegon of the USHL. He's going to Michigan in the fall, but there's some good size and goal scoring there. I get he's a right winger with a left shot, but it shouldn't be hard to transition him to the left wing.

Devin Kaplan might end up being one of those players that's a better pro than he was a college player. 

I love the Carter Sotheran pick more and more. Hopefully he gets an expanded offensive role next year in junior and then after that the Flyers don't do the typical Flyers thing and pigeon hole him into a role and not expand on his skill set.

2 hours ago, CoachX said:

I’m confused…..

 

are we wanting the Flyers to make the playoffs? 
 

depending on your stance on the matter defines how valuable Sandstroms particular talent is

 

I don't care if they make or don't make the playoffs.

If they didn't make the playoffs, it's a higher first round pick that can be used to acquire or draft a young center.

If they make the playoffs, it's going to be an eye opener for some of these younger players.

Either way, I look at it as a win/win for the franchise.

Not adding a second viable goalie will be the nail in the coffin for this club. I don't think they'll play Ersson 10 games in a row and Washington is red hot. Once again, not the end of the world if the team doesn't make the playoffs, but this will be something that will have to be addressed in the offseason.

Sanheim with goal number 9 and point number 40 on the season. Does he hit 50 this year?

51 minutes ago, radoran said:

 

Returning from back injury? check.

 

Has played 74 hockey games in 4 years? check

 

Has been put into a position of great responsibility sooner than needed? check

 

Was overplayed when he first came back? check

 

Is now "disappointing" and a healthy scratch "to make a point"? check

 

#neweraoforange

Was going to say the exact same thing. This falls 100% on Tortorella for not managing Couturier's ice time. Tortorella played him hard from the get go in order to try to 'win' and secure a playoff spot. The house of cards is beginning to fall apart. Tortorella needs to own this one. I'm wondering if Couturier asks to be moved after the season is over.......

3 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

C'mon, you don't really think I THINK they're building around Johnson? Ok, thanks. 

 

I know what they've said. I never thought it would take one trade deadline. Already discussed it, you can't fall in love, going to have to be some tough decisions, whats better for the team going forward. I agree 100% with those comments. 

 

But none of those things mean bringing in a 35 year old. It's not like he's any good. It's just taking another draft pick and Flyering into the wind. As we do. 

 

Heck, they're paying Johansen $4 million a year....throw him on D. 

 

When this team is a legit top 10 team ( not just playing way over their heads for two thirds of a season) and they want to move assets to strengthen them for the present and give them more depth, sign me up. 

I was initially upset about the Johnson trade, but I look at things like this. There's going to be trades at the draft and it won't surprise me if the Flyers love someone and get that 4th back. No harm, no foul. I just hate that it was Erik Johnson they acquired.

47 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

And the season itself was entertaining to watch. Everybody wins.

Exactly. Not only was it entertaining, but the new core is going to be ok. There are five legit wingers on the club. There's even one in Foerster playing on his off wing. Imagine how much better he'd be if he were on his proper wing and even then, he looks like he's going to be legit left winger and he's gonna score some big goals. Cam York is an absolute beast on the blueline. You can see that it's coming together and he's looking like he's going to be a top two, possible number one defensemen on this club. He's looked legit. Definite fun year to watch player development.

On 3/3/2024 at 3:37 PM, Brewin Flames said:

I was wondering if there was concern about his size....so i did a quick search.

 

Caulfield is 5'7

 

Zukes is 5'8

 

Derbrincat 5'8

 

Hell even one of my faves Theo Fleury was 5'6

 

I'll just guess that Barkey has to add some pounds.

I'm not worried about Barkey and his weight. The kid is a gym rat and is in there all the time. The weight will come. 

52 minutes ago, mojo1917 said:

@SCFlyguy

I think Tyson Foerster has more to his game. He's not a finished product, his shot is elite and he's strong as hell on the puck.

I think if he nears his ceiling we'll be pretty happy. There is a lot to like about that kid.

Joel Farabee will be a solid middle six guy, Owen Tippett has game breaking ability.

@BobbyClarkeFan16 has mentioned a very solid potential top 4.

I think the reason they have over achieved this season, aside from their f' all attitude  is these young guys are developing into better than projected players.

They may take a step back next season development is never linear, so the Flyers first will be a higher pick in a better draft.

 

They can use assets to trade for a "horse". Comcast has money.

 

You're smart, you can come up with some scenarios too I'm sure.

 

@radoran's desire to see some creativity in the offseason may be answered by the FO. Briere did get a first for Walker and no one thought that was happening. He was creative in using his cap space to recoup the 25 5th rounder.

Danny seems like a bright mind when it comes to this job. 

Yep. Overachieving is a part of development. The thing is, do any of the prospects and young players have transferrable skills that they can carry to the NHL with them? And if they do, can they be developed? I think if the younger players bypass Lehigh Valley and if Shaw and Tortorella work with them, they'll be ok. Lehigh Valley is the problem and any GM with a brain can see that. I hope that Laperriere is relieved of duties this summer and someone from junior hockey with a proven development track record is brought in to correct what's going on there. Will it happen? I don't know, but I think with how the team has cratered in the 2nd half, I can't believe that Laperriere isn't feeling any sort of heat.

48 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said:

Can someone tell me where the horses for the Flyers "rebuild" are going to come from in the next 3-5 years?

 

I don't really follow the Phantoms, but the last time I can remember them doing anything was during the lockout in 04-05 when Carter and Richards joined midseason and they won a Calder Cup.  There were a number of other players from that team who went on to play significant roles for the Flyers in the next several years.

 

I see they are again the Phantoms are at near the bottom of their division, which seems like every year.  Even when they have made the playoffs in recent years they have done nothing.

 

These are mostly the players who are supposedly going to graduate to the Flyers and provide the basis for us being a contender.  I don't see it.  I don't see a single player absolutely dominating at the AHL level and demanding playing time on the Flyers.

 

If the infusion of talent isn't coming from Allentown, aren't the Flyers relying on the few prospects that aren't in the AHL: Bonk, Michkov and the handful of others drafted last year?  Seems thin.  Seems like you would need every one of these non-AHL draftees to be a superstar to have enough talent to be a perennial contender.

I would love for someone with more knowledge of this stuff than me to explain the path to contention when the farm is exceedingly thin.

The two horses I can think of down there are Tuomaala and Andrae. Both have kind of hit a wall, but they're going to be good. Both need competent players around them though and the Flyers have failed both from that standpoint. With that being said, Tuomaala's rookie season reminds me of Foerster's first season and Andrae needs a guy like Shaw to help him refine his defensive game. He's a work in progress, but you can see the talent and ability there. If the defensive side gets addressed, it's very possible that the Flyers might have a better skating Timonen style defender on their hands. 

York - Drysdale - Andrae - Bonk has the potential to be a REALLY good top four unit in the league. And I'll give the devil his due - Tortorella has a thing for developing defensemen, especially when Shaw can find and refine the flaws. 

Watch the Flyers catch lightning in a bottle and Gurianov becomes the second coming of John LeClair.

21 minutes ago, radoran said:

 

It's an acquisition for basically nothing for a player who will play the way the coach wants.

 

The idea isn't "make the best move" it was "make a good move" and it was.

I said there were better defenders available. I'm not looking for the best move either because they aren't there yet, not even close. But Johnson is disappointing. He's done. He only plays the way he does because he can't do anything else of value. And what's scary is that if this club makes the playoffs, it's very possible that he, Ristolainen, and Seeler will all play big minutes because "playoff hockey" and "grind". What's even sadder is that someone like Attard, who should be given a chance to run with it because he actually played rather well in Lehigh Valley, is going to have to sit and watch this play out. That's what really bugs me about this move. I think Attard showed the other night he can play. I've been meh on him, but he looked really solid against Florida. Honestly, he looked a bit like Dan McGillis his first year here. But, that's just me though.

4 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Attard does play some significant minutes down the stretch.

I think maybe this is in addition to @radoran 's theory, is also a hedge on Ginning who in spite of that great hit was -1 and got ****** caved when he was on the ice. his X/g was in the 20s. Ronnies' was in the high 50s.  Ginning's eye test looked good, but a lot of the Panther's cycle game got going when big 50 was out there. 

Attard should play significant minutes down the stretch. His size, physicality and shot are a welcome addition. He can also run a power play.

I'm just shaking my head over Erik Johnson though. He's cooked. There were better options available for the price that was paid for Johnson. If he plays big minutes, this club is in huge trouble.