Rad: Well said. The Flyers have gone dramatically backwards in experience level since moving those three. I am not saying it was bad. In fact I think it was right, but there is cause and effect. Then we loose Pronger. That was big. Now this year Jagr (never thought I would be saying it) and Matty Carle. Briere, Knuble, and Talbot are good guys but... Think it is best if everyone sees it for what it is, a basic rebuilding. I wonder if our GM, management, or ownership sees it that way. I suspect not. Most decisions are based upon getting one old man another ring and that means they are short term. BOI