Vincent05

I dont see any splashy moves at the deadline this year.   If there is a deal I could see Brayden Schenn getting moved if the return was warranted.   With Laughton coming up the Center position is pretty much a traffic jam.

B. Schenn for Yandle? L. Schenn and Yandle on 1st pairing next year!!!!

Just messing with ya lol.

THIS!   That is where I am with Homer too... maybe I put more credence into his past but this is where I am with Homer.  He has done some good things and dare I say that maybe he is learning from prior mistakes?

Not to be negative but the 2 contracts he handed to Streit and Vinny, anyone here can do also. We are hoping that it won't hurt us in a few years. Homer has not learned from his mistakes, I wonder which 35+ FA he will give a 3 year contract to this offseason.

Take that all back, the season is not over!!!!!

@Vincent05,I've argued this before and don't care to do it again. You can read it for yourself here:http://www.hockeyforums.net/index.php/topic/52463-bummed-on-yandle/?hl=yandleAt the time of the JVR-Schenn trade, the NEED was a defensive defenseman, not a puck mover. It was expected that Carle would be resigned.

I get that you have the two as a same player. But honestly if you had the two trade on the table, you would take Luke over Yandle? I don't hate Luke, I do hope he turns it around soon. But value wise at the time you must be nuts to not take Yandle over Luke. We can't do nothing about it now, our defense looks like crap next year if Timonen retires.

@Howie58

Doubt the Flyers will sell anything at the deadline. They never sell if they see a chance to make the playoffs, they only sell if they have no shot at making the playoffs. I would like to see them move Hartnell as well but that is wishful thinking. I see them adding a few minor players before the deadline but for a major move it will be in the offseason or at the draft.

@AlaskaFlyerFan@doom88

You guys can think Yandle is another Carle but I rate him higher then Carle. I would rather have Yandle here now and going forward then having Luke and Streit. A defensive defenseman is easier to find then a PPQB or puck moving defenseman. We are stuck with Streit for 4 years at a 35+ contract. I rather give that money to Yandle who is alot younger.

We will be looking for another puck moving defenseman after this year if Timonen retires. I don't trust Streit being healthy for a whole season if he is relied upon to carry this defense. The young defensemen we have drafted the past few years will not be able to help for another 5 years or so. So we will be back to searching for that defenseman yet again. JMO

@jammer2

Me too jammer and I just ate right before reading that. I just got over the Eagles lost and this just piss me off more lol.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2014-01-05/keith-yandle-flyers-us-olympic-hockey-team-roster-snubs

The Luke Schenn-James van Riemsdyk trade seemed like a bad one for the Philadelphia Flyers when it happened. After a season and a half, it looks even worse — van Riemsdyk is an Olympian for the Toronto Maple Leafs, and deservedly so. Schenn has regressed.

On Sunday, it actually got a little worse for Philly. General manager Paul Holmgren turned down a trade that would've sent van Riemsdyk to the Phoenix Coyotes for defenseman Keith Yandle a few hours before pulling the trigger on Schenn-JVR, according to CSN Philly's Tim Panaccio. Discussions between the two teams were reported at the time, but this is the first time we've seen it in such uncertain terms: the Flyers could've had Yandle, and said no thanks.

The Coyotes' Keith Yandle (AP Photo)

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The reason it came up: Yandle, surprisingly, missed out on the U.S. Olympic team. He's an elite puck-mover, but USA Hockey had concerns over his perceived high-risk style and suitability on the top four. He also can only play on the left side. Holmgren, by the way, helped choose the team.

From Scott Burnside's all-access piece on the selection process:

"It's not that he wouldn't be on the power play if he were on the team," (former Flyers coach Peter) Laviolette says. "But the risk in his game seems to be more than Dan's willing to take or wants to take with that type of player," he adds referring to head coach Dan Bylsma.

One fan: L.A. Kings coach Dean Lombardi, who wrote what was referred to as "The Yandle Manifesto" in the piece. It was funny.

"Yandle is clearly the only guy that I would consider for this team. I started this trying to figure out why the kid isn't basically amongst the top six," Lombardi says.

Because the central knock on Yandle is that he's not responsible enough defensively, Lombardi says he focused on situations in which this might be revealed in Yandle's game and how the same assessment might be applied to the other candidates.

There is no question, he says, that Yandle is the superior puck-mover and uses a combination of superior skating and passing ability to move the puck quickly up the rink.

He is the highest-scoring American defenseman over the past four years, Lombardi points out.

"Why are we discounting this kid?" he asks. If they use the theory espoused by some that inclusion should be based on current level of play and body of work, "This kid's right up there with Duncan Keith in terms of points over the past four years."

In any case, Yandle isn't on Team USA — or the Philadelphia Flyers.

If that is true, Homer is a IDIOT. We then didn't need to sign Streit.

Great deal here, I thought he would get more then that. A modest raise from 1.375 to 1.75 . Schenn should get around 2-2.25 mil per.

@DaGreatGazoo

I get your point, but doubt Homer would hire him to put pressure on himself. More of the old boys club, that's all.

Or a puppet to continue running Snider's plan when Homer is gone.

I like Dalessandro's better, but I actually like Steve's. Good choice! I just never liked Tony Luke's.

Which Steve's do you go to? I've only ever been to the one on Bustleton

I go to the one on Route 1 in Langhorne as it's closer to me. Pats and Genos quality has gone down and don't like the taste from Tony Luke's. Never tried Dalessandro yet.

Ok so let's predict which old guy Homer will give a 5 year contract with NMC to with the available cap space.

LOL. I'll taie Dalessandro's over Tony Puke's every day of the week. I really don't like Pat's or Geno's.

Don't like either of those places. Steve's Prince of Steak for me.

@Vincent05 He's a lot meaner than Coburn. He has a snarl to his game, so he's different from Coburn in that aspect. That and the fact he has no trouble getting his shot on net most nights

Don't want Bogo, I see another Coburn in him. don't know why but just do.

What they said ^^^^^^^. Beat wishes bro. Hope to see you soon.

That was Boucher, wasn't it?

Yes it was.

The "Dan" Line.... Dan Kordic/Danny Lacrouix/Scott Daniels.......They could not score to save their own lives but they could beat the hell out of anyone else on the ice....... :D/>

LMAO, ah the memories. I totally forgot, thanks rod.

I would love to ask him:

1- What's his plan is to win the Cup now and longterm.

2- Why he gives out NMC instead of LTC

3- What did he offer Nashville for Weber and what did they demanded.

4- Who's idea was it to sign Bryz

5- Does he lie or withhold the truth.

@ruxpin

Lol

@jammer2 - especially since his contract may be the only one Holmgren ever backloaded...

Homer didn't sign Mez. He signed it with TB.

@aziz

I get what you're saying and know it's mostly luck as in getting the right bounces. I guess being a Philly fan is very bad as we always have a good team to get there but can't win it all. Phillies in 08 being the lone exception.

@canoli The Striet contract worries me the most out all of them, cause it was a dreaded +35 deal, where he does not come off the cap at all, I'm not sure of this, but maybe if he dies he comes off the cap, anybody know about this morbid twist...and if does die, I didn't do it!!!

I can see you making a Streit vodoo doll and stabbing him. Die sucker die. Lol

Good deal. Gus needs to prove he deserve a longer contract this year.

oh, come on. the team just spent, what, $24mil for a guy to NOT play for them. complain they are doing it wrong, but the "just want to make money" thing is amazingly tired. if that were the case, they could float around the cap floor and save $16mil+ every season. the flyers do what they think they need to do to win, right or wrong.

I stand by my comment that they hope to get lucky one of these years. Their plan hasn't worked for over how many years? I think Bryz talked his way out of Philly so they just use his style of play as a excuse. Yes they can spend around the cap floor but they won't make as much money as spending to the ceiling and making the playoffs. I read somewhere to make a profit you need to make the playoffs. Also by winning they can make more off of merchandise sales. I forgot who mention here that Snider is a slick successful businessman so there you go.

I wish I am wrong but I can't see it any other way here. I've been following them since I was 12, over 20+ years. Yes I love it back then that they always sign the best player available and go for it every year. 20 something years later we still got no Cup and now I get tired of the same thing over and over. I just hope I get to see them win one before I die. That's not much to ask for is it?