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SpikeDDS

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  1. @yave1964 Well, for several years, we haven’t had too much trouble playing AHL hockey. We’ve been consistently competitive at that level. Where we seem to struggle is when trying to upgrade from the AHL level to the NHL level. Then we look more pedestrian. And I’m not just talking about our current predicament. Consider guys like Jurco. Or Pulkkinnen. These guys were fine players at the AHL level, but never knew how to adapt their game to the NHL game. I’m wondering if this is something systemic about our farm system development. It just seems like we either bring the talent right in quickly ala Larkin, basically skipping the Griffs, or they play there and if they flourish we bring them up and they just don’t seem to flourish up here. Look at AA: the kid TEARS IT UP offensively at every level, and he STILL did when he first got up here. But now he looks, not pedestrian, but pedestrian as compared with his previous levels. It’s like we brought him up, and the guy who scored suddenly becomes the guy who threatens to score and still does every so often. I dunno. We seem to flourish at developing second and third-tier players. Some of it is talent. But I smell inability to coach to achieve potential.
  2. @yave1964 Having said all that, there IS good news: After Mike Green gets traded, Luke Witkowski will step in as our offensive-minded D-man! LOL!
  3. @yave1964 Finally getting back here. Sorry, the only thing that competes with watching hockey for me is watching Olympic curling. As a US Curling fan, I know what it must feel like to be a Buffalo Sabres fan. I’m gonna just leave it at that. As bad as that individual game was—and it was bad, but not IMHO as bad as the Montreal debacle earlier this season—whereas it may FEEL like the bottom, if the Wings sell like they should, it WILL get worse. Now, we will have more promise for hope, but take away some of our significant talent, and the product on the ice is gonna suffer for the remainder of the year. Prepare yourself @yave1964. But we must remember—and so must both the RW front office and so must most fans—that it is a means to an end. It is to improve our chances of acquiring what we need to succeed via the draft. Keep repeating it as you grit your teeth: “It’s the means to an end. It’s the means to an end.” You can’t let the ugliness of what you are going to be seeing take away from your future talent supplies.
  4. @yave1964 I don’t think it is as clear cut as you make it sound, but I respect the disagreement. I do think Huberdeau contacted Mrazek in the blue, and I agree Green didn’t have anything to do with it. The contact did not prevent him from making the initial save. He did. But he fell down. To me, there was not much contact—not enough to justify Mrazek falling like he did. I think he oversold it—like a dive! (But no goalie *ever* takes a dive in this league, do they? LOL!) Huberdeau scores on the rebound, which was already in the paint. i dunno. When Mickey—whom I love, but fully admit he is often a homer—has a hard time with a call like that, it is usually objectively going to go against us, and it did. In my mind, the call on the ice was no interference. The replay didn’t show me a whole lot of interference to make me reverse the call on the ice. If I was in Toronto, I think I would have made thee same call, looking at this one goal in isolation. The problem is the context of how other similar calls have been made. Consistency. Having some kind of standards. Perhaps this is spirit vs. letter of the law. Perhaps by the letter of the law, you could be right. Then again, Brett Hull’s skate blade being in the crease on the goal that won the Stars the Cup shouldn’t have counted by the letter of the law back then either. In both cases, I am glad that reason won the day, despite my not liking a loss for the RWs.
  5. It was the right call. Mrazek oversold the interference on the winning goal for the Panthers, and the NHL didn’t buy it. I didn’t either. But was I surprised that the Red Wings were upset by the call? No, not at all, because of the context of the call. The problem is twofold: 1. That the league has not CLEARLY stated in the rules what defines goaltender interference and what does not. They do try, but they cannot describe every possible scenario. It either requires death by 1000 qualifications, or it needs to remain arbitrary. It is arbitrary. 2. That ultimately, that decision is going to be a subjective one. It’s really about how the guys in Toronto view each play on a case-by-case basis. Let me say that more clearly for you: “We know goalie interference when we see it.” The problem is that the above IS the arbitrary standard that both makes the game great AND makes it frustrating. Frustrating to play, frustrating to coach, and frustrating to watch. I’m a Red Wing fan. I saw the play and numerous replays. IMHO should this have been GTI? No. Mrazek was touched lightly. He fell down. He was “nudged.” I do not want this level of interference taking good goals away from teams who have earned them. In THIS case, I support the NHL’s call. But the problem is that in the last few weeks there have been several others where interference similar to this have negated goals. THAT’S why Blashill and the Wings are upset. “Wait! That looks the same as X’s no-goal last Thursday. Why was that goal disallowed, but this one stands?” Excellent question! Here is my view: If the call is being made by the refs who are on the ice, it is reasonable that they are not going to get every call right. That is just part of the game. It’s frustrating; it’s understandable; it’s hockey. I don’t need to hear much explanation, because they are not always going to get calls right. But Toronto is different. They are not making calls live, which can lead to wrong calls. They are analyzing plays. To attempt to decrease the arbitrariness of these calls, they should give teams an explanation for why this particular incident is a goal in comparison with others so that coaches at least have some idea of what the standard is other than “We know GTI when we see it (and sorry if you don’t).” I do NOT necessarily think Toronto needs to explain themselves to the fans on every play they call. But they DO owe coaches and players explanations, so they know how to coach and play the game. Clearly, right now, there is a lot of confusion within the NHL as to what GTI is and what it is not. THAT is the problem, and the NHL needs to fix it. When there is so much confusion that players and coaches no longer see that play as a good goal, more communication within the league is necessary to clarify the standards. This is not the officials’ fault. This is on the NHL.
  6. @yave1964 Perhaps you’re right about Q marking this game. I thought about that. This was the last game before the ASG break for both of these teams. One team was on vacation already. Perhaps the Blackhawks learned their lesson from the game before their bye week. And my point was, in part, that soon after Mike Green is gone and hopefully a few others, our talent level will no longer make your first sentence of your second paragraph be true. We WON’T have enough talent to play with most anyone on any given night. We will have to be playing at the top of our game, and other teams will have to be playing average to below average. We, as fans, must be mentally prepared for what is coming. It’s not gonna be pretty in the short run. At some point, the talent level runs low enough where even if you play an average game, that the result will be “not good enough.” That point is approaching...if the Wings are smart.
  7. @TropicalFruitGirl26 Good thinking. I still think that THE way forward is drafting lottery D-men. So we are in agreement that it MUST get worse before it gets better. I agree with you on the 3 untouchables. I question whether some of the vets you listed are dealable with some of their remaining terms. Tatar might be tradeable, especially if he starts getting hot now, but his remaining term will likely turn teams off, not wanting to commit for that long. Same with some of the others. Some are just frankly overpaid, like Helm. Again making deals difficult. But your main idea is that a fire sale may be called for, and I don’t disagree. I would be OK with that. Yep, it means that clicking OK the next 2-3 seasons when I’m signing up for my NHL.TV annual subscription might leave a bad taste in my mouth, but it’s the price we gotta pay to get what we need.
  8. If you were wondering what the rest of the Red Wings’ season was gonna look like, tonight’s game confirms that Detroit will be sellers at the deadline. Just awful. Howard looked asleep. His positioning was poor, unlike most of his season. Was he not mentally ready after sitting out the last two? Did Mrazek outplaying him for 2+ games ding his ego enough to bring back Old Jimmy? Gosh, I hope not! We need to move one of our netminders. Neither looks good tonight, although Mrazek looks better than Howard did. (Pretty low bar, though.) Once we sell what we can, it’s not going to look better, so get ready to watch more hockey like this. Well, maybe not THIS bad, but...bad. I can hear the auctioneer warming up his voice.
  9. @mojo1917 On the offensive side of the puck, you're right. The future looks better. It's on the blue line that we are in BIG trouble. What I fear is that the young forwards play well enough to not let us tank enough to earn a couple solid D-man prospects, which is what we need. We need lottery D-men. Those won't come if we limp into the playoffs because our forwards are good enough to carry us to first-round exits. The LAST thing this front office needs right now is to THINK like a team on the bubble.
  10. @flyercanuck Thanks for that clip. Just the one I needed. No offsides. Great play by Konecny.
  11. It looked like he was to me. It WAS very close, but it looked like he touched the puck just before his skate touched the line to me. Young Bertuzzi is gonna remember this game for a while. The first miss, the puck never settled down and that’s very likely why it hit glass. But even though he was being interfered with and going down, I don’t know how he missed that second open net. The good news was that he played a VERY good game. He was in the right spots and made many very good plays in this game...just not when it would have counted. Bummer!
  12. @yave1964 Kinda reminds me size and attitude-wise of Dino Ciccarelli only a D-man. Pesky, a little on the dirty side—maybe “gritty” is better?—a battler. Competitive. Demember a couple of years ago Babcock’s man-crush on Luke Glendening, saying he was one of the most competitive players he’d coached—in the same league as Bergeron, Toews, Pav and Z? I bet Babs would buy this kid flowers!!
  13. @yave1964 So, the question isn't whether we need to tank, but how much to tank. Just because you tank doesn't guarantee the top pick. Do you try to go bottom 3? We aren't bad enough to go below Buffalo anyway are we, even if we dump Green and some others? The question is how much is too much? And then, let's face it: we need some luck in the lottery draw. I'd love Dahlin, but there is no guarantee of getting a chance to draft him. DRB
  14. @yave1964 Well, and this very thing calls into question the drafting of Rasmussen. I have ZERO against Rasmussen himself. His talent is undeniable. But why draft a forward when you desperately need a D-man? When is the last time a top-drawer D-man was traded for forwards except possibly as a rental? It just doesn’t happen any more. The closest we’ve seen to that was probably Trouba, but look how that turned out? Nobody does that any more. They are just too darn valuable. Why Holland didn’t see this fact enough is baffling. An argument that his talent might be dealable in a package for a top-level D-man just doesn’t hold water in today’s NHL. The only two realistic paths forward are the draft and *eventual* FA. The problem with the latter is that teams are not letting guys like that walk away. They might even do a Subban-Webber, but they aren’t going to let top-drawer talent go unless they age out of their prime. Getting one by rental at the deadline ala Shattenkirk seems to be the only possibility, but ya gotta have a team that has enough to have a chance by grabbing him, because you’re gonna still pay a hefty price, so unless by grabbing him you’ve got some serious potential for winning a Cup that year, it’s not worth it. No, the only thing that makes sense that I can see is obtaining one (or more) via the draft. Thus, the drafting of Rasmussen and the like is quite questionable at best, and just ignorant/stupid at worst.
  15. @yave1964 And in contrast, we caught the Blackhawks dreaming of beaches in today's game. Our PP looked almost as bad--we never scored on it, even though we did have 1/7 yesterday. But other than the end of the 1st/beginning of the second, we actually played hockey! I think they could smell it on the Blackhawks. They looked like a team ready to go on vacation. Athanasiou had several good plays, even though he didn't score a goal. Great dish to Larkin on the first goal. He had other opportunities and was in good position for rebounds on at least one other goal that went in. Bertuzzi continues to play well, and ya gotta love him scoring his first goal, a reward for his good play. Mantha had moments of good, moments of not-so-good. Gosh, I just wish we could put NHL star drive into his chest, where he just goes all the time. I wish Z's heart was contagious. Perfect set-up on his goal by Z. Fun watching the Chicago D fall down like bowling pins before the shot! Nice pass to Mike Green on his goal. Mrazek. Solid. Looked a bit less jumpy, which is a GOOD thing! Shutout #2 for him. Couldn't come at a better time for either him or the franchise. Now he's gotta follow it up with another good performance the next time he's in. Holland is going to have to let him play a little more before the deadline to try and make him more marketable. If he gets on a hot streak, he becomes sellable. This was a very good game for our young talent. Even Turgeon played well in his first NHL game, helping with the PK, which was perfect, obviously. We needed this after a stinker yesterday.

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