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Bah. I would have taken him No Cap space though

I dunno. Kharlamov also got the standing O when he was alive

It is one of the only times I have seen in the NHL where a cheapshot was talked about like it was deserved. Some of the players suggested giving Domi a bonus cheque lol.

Then there was, Ron Hextall. ahah. Who was more Wild animal than goalie.

That would be Shanahan with Janney's wife. It is not a rumor, but accepted fact. Mostly because she divorced Janney and Married Shanahan in short order. The other 100% true one if not really between players. But Martin Brodeur.....err...let's just say his in law's were already his in law's when he married a second time. Those have to be the most awkward family dinners ever.

Thank you. Ill never forgive that man for his hit on Neely.

Certainly if you look at career numbers. However, many many great players have kept their season average points per game close to their playoff average(Looking merely at their prime years). The guys you mentioned all played in the low scoring periods of hockey(Half of Yzerman's career was DPE, and he has a very good playoff PPG in the 80's)). Marcel played in the, well, highest scoring times ever. His drop in numbers compared to his regular seasons were astronomical. Yzerman did get comparisons to Dionne before he won finally the big one of course. Much like Joe Thornton does now.

Dionne scored at a rate of 1.50 points per game on average in the regular season, and yet dropped off to 0.91 in the playoffs. that is a huuuuuge drop in personal production. Granted I did not see a lot of him, but the Kings fans I know told me his game was simply, well, predictable, and not dynamic. And they accused him of disappearing, being shut down and only scoring points in games when they were losing 6-1 already. When Kings fans tell me Joe Thornton looks outstanding in the playoffs in comparison......I have to believe Dionne was pretty subpar at crunch time. Granted NOBODY could have lead those teams to cups. All I am saying is that his personal production suffered at a time when he was supposed to be elevating his game. He was the #1 target for shutdown in the regular season as well.

I am pretty sure Marcel Dionne is the only man in the hall of fame who never won a best of 7 playoff series.

Mushroom Cloud?

Miller had a standout year or two. but he is far from the best goalie now.

Marcel Dionne makes Joe Thornton look like a Conn Smythe winner

You know what? if the NHL wants to really bring back division rivalry and playoff rivalry, I think the schedule should be heavily clustered with only teams in your division. Almost along the lines of 80% vs Division, 18% vs other teams in your conference and 2% vs the other conference. That would work out to 65 game vs division rivals, 15 games vs the rest of the conference, and 2 game vs the other conference. I also think that for any First round matchups, they should default to playing teams in their own division if possible.

I threw his name up too The only person I have ever seen trash Tretiak's goaltending is Phil Esposito. I heard things about a goaltender for Czechoslovakia who outdueled the Soviets and Tretiak for gold twice in the 70's on a vastly inferior team. Anyone got a name for him?

Was Roger Millions fired for this?

I saw it a lot in Shark games vs Columbus. but also when I happened to catch a columbus game vs anyone. Often if the sharks are not playing, I will watch whatever team strikes my fancy.

And Kurri With Brodeur that is usually the point I bring up when people decide to go with pure "He has the best wins + shutouts" Yes the Oilers were not all that bad in their own end. Coffey was pretty bad, and sometimes Gretzky, but Gretzky tilted the ice the other way in a way that makes him transcend the need for 2 way play.

I hate that idea. Usually the truly skilled superstars can make magic happen no matter who their linemates are. Joe Thornton turned Cheechoo into a 56 goal scorer and scored 96 points at one point when michalek was 2nd with 55 points. Occasionally you get a superstar who needs others specific tools to make him stand out, but usually, players who need to carry the load and play more because they are the team do better than Nash. What I notice about Nash is, his lack of effort. Sometimes, you can see him just dictate his will. He decided to show up that night and the other team is easing up on the forecheck and crossing their fingers every time he is on the ice. But if for whatever reason he decides he is not happy that night, he will float. Which is 2/3rds of the games I see him play.

Heya hollywood. Good to see the most active poster from our prospects/minor league forum still filling us in

Pretty good sum up

Welcome old friend @Dgill haha. I forgot you live in Halifax too. Nice win for the mooseheads eh? Pretty nice to watch the #1 and #3 overall picks their entire predraft season. I kinda prefer Drouin over Mackinnon(Even though Mackinnon is a beautiful Skater.) you must be beyond pleased to have grabbed Mack.

oh Definitely, but like we said, it is more for the people who merely look at stats and GAA and win/loss records that we apply that philosophy to Brodeur. Some people equate stats with wins. Ed belfour has more wins and a better GAA than terry Sawchuk, but I have never seen a list that rates him higher. Same if you look at Curtis joseph vs Billy Smith. The point is merely that his wins and GAA don't necessarily make him better than Roy/Hasek. I know I rank him below them

This was the first thing I was wondering

In some cases, nothing. In some cases, it means a lot. If someone picked up a game winning goal in a 7-2 Hockey game, I would say the goal did not mean a whole lot in terms of clutch. However it "May" have. When 2 teams are tied and playing hard, sometimes the game winning goal opens the floodgates as the other team goes a bit more offensive trying to tie it back up. Witness Canada vs USA in 2002. The 5-2 score is deceiving because that game was super close. The Game winning goal in that game definitely means something. And obviously, Crosby's game winning goal in the 2010 Olympics overtime was HUGE

Oh defnitely. But it certainly inflated the look of his win/Loss ratio and GAA/Shutouts compared to other better goalies.