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  1. It's really crazy to see how many times the Wild chased the "star" or very good player who was in the decline of their career in hopes they would somehow revert back to their younger self. Or chase players would come here, not produce, get traded or go elsewhere where they would be used correctly and produce. The list was really good LiG.
  2. The Wild are getting closer and closer. I fear for this team when 11 and 20 are on the last two years of their contracts. I can see Leipold really going nuts and setting the franchise back another 10 years with getting involved in bad moves and decisions. I truly believe, just like the Nashville Predators, the Wild will become a serious contender the day Leipold sells the team. He makes the teams he owns middle of the road but nowhere good enough to get out of the first round of playoffs. I mean we were known as the retirement team for shell of their former selves vet players in the twilight of their careers to get one last over bloated contract and now those players don't even want to come here. Says a lot about the franchise.
  3. @rottenrefs post is fantastic! Exactly how I feel and the reason I have been saying for a very long time that even the mighty Scotty Bowman couldn't fix this mess. It all starts with Leipold. A guy who knows basketball but couldn't afford to own a NBA team. He still wanted to be "one of the boys" of owning a sports team and found hockey was in his price range. Guy has no knowledge of the sport yet is making his decisions involved in all aspects of the game. Sadly, I think the only chance the Wild really do have is walking away from a ton of these guys. We have a lot of players who have been the Fletcher era which was worship the old, high paid vets and not develop the young guys. You could tell this created a atmosphere that was hostile unless you were a overpaid vet. Factor in that some of the vets would wine and dine with the owner and go over their coaches head and hire other people who come in on your coaches meetings and receive zero punishment and it paints a ugly picture. Fenton comes in and completely throws a monkey wrench into what was going on. Of course this didn't actually fix things but made it worse. Now even the overpaid vets get to feel what a toxic environment feels like and boy did they raise up a stink and cry about it. I don't know if this roster of guys who have gone through these two GMs would be able to band together and become a team like the Blues. The three guys they built their franchise around are not a year or two from retirement and have declined in a big way. And let's not forget that Parise, Koivu and Suter are now getting injured prone and have some serious injuries. I really do believe a full rebuild is going to be needed for the Wild for them to have a shot. I think they need to shed whatever toxic environment that these two GMs allowed/created which means almost everybody involved during that time is gone. Think about how bad it has to be from behind the seems when older/nearing retirement vets are refusing to come here and we have been known as the retirement home of the NHL for old vets to come and get one last huge payday before walking into the sunset.
  4. This is the sad thing for the next GM. They start off in a very bad spot due to not one but two of the past GMs signings. Throw in the expansion draft coming up and being forced to protect a ton of guys the new GM had nothing to do with and I can't foresee the new GM getting anything started for at least 3 to 4 years (6 years for 11 & 20 to finally be flushed out of here). And this is based on if CL can pull his head from his @ss and finally agree the franchise needs to go through a rebuild. Can anybody here honestly tell me they think this team is just a tweak away from actually making a serious Cup run? Watch every other team in the playoffs. Watch how they play. Watch how they kick into next gear. Watch how they rally around each other. Now watch the Wild every playoffs since 2012-2013 season. I have been to a few playoff games in person. Not once in any of the seasons did I see the Wild roster display even one of these keys to make a run. What I fear will happen is CL goes and gets a little more serious GM that is still a good yes man and goes with the plan that the roster is pretty much set and really only need one or two changes and try to milk the dead cow dry until 11 and 20s contracts finally expire then decide they need to rebuild. I hate how our owner tries to get so involved when he had no interest in hockey until he realized he couldn't afford to own a NBA team. He might have good basketball knowledge but his hockey knowledge is at a 1st grade level.
  5. ^^ This. As long as CL wants to be GM and the GM he hires wants to be a coach while worshipping 9, 11 and 20 like they are actually stud super stars it won't matter who they hire or what they do for the next 6 years. This is what makes me bang my head on the wall. It's been happening for a long time. It's clear 11 and 20 can do whatever they want with no punishment. Like or hate Yeo but what 11 and 20 did with Oates ordeal should have been good enough to terminate their contracts. Hopefully this time CL actually realizes this and learns the only things he needs to do is hire a proven winner GM, sign the checks and only step in if the franchise is completely out of control. Cut ties with 11 and 20 and no more going out for dinners with them. Both of them are not winners and have no idea what it takes to win it all. Let the GM and his staff handle the players. Then we might have a shot.
  6. If it's true that CL would even consider Chiarelli after everything that guy has managed to screw up then the Wild franchise is in the Bermuda Triangle in the middle of a hurricane. But like @rottenrefs said, CL is herpes of this franchise. It just won't go away and screws up the possibility of good times. Until CL learns to just be a owner by sitting down, signing the checks, tell players to go to the GM/Coach for issues and only get involved with things are on the verge of bursting open this team will be nothing more then a sinking, laughing stock ship. Good for vets with big names who are in the twilight of their careers and a shell of their former selves to get one last big money contract and retire. CL needs to spend the money and get a proven winner GM. Let the GM do everything to build the winning team. If this includes making some players, coaches, management not comfortable tell those individuals "tough chit!". I am no businessman but if CL is as good as some people claim then he should know he needs to keep out of the operations area as he has no clue what to do. When you start losing $ on said company and you, the owner, is constantly sticking your nose into operations when you have no idea how to run it and only look at a operations person who says you are correct and agree with every one of your decisions then what do you think is going to happen? Your customers still continue to want the product as it gets worse and worse well getting more expensive? Your customer base are not morons. They will simply stop buying it. Get some fresh eyes in that have the experience and knowledge to try and solve your issue even if they don't agree with what you think should happen.
  7. Well, I am glad you asked because.......... In all honesty I just burnt out of how this team has been going for years. It frustrates me as I love hockey more then any other sport. I would love to see Suter and Parise hold that cup above their head as it means we finally won but I am also not going to wear blinders and believe they are the keys to it. The team needs a new direction badly and has to tell everybody you are either falling in line and following or you can exit now.
  8. That makes a impact but let's be honest the single biggest impact is the roster and direction of this team. If a team is a winner people will come no matter what. When a team is a team that strides to just make the playoffs and pats themselves on the back after being swept in the first round and then says it just needs a minor tweak or two year after year, well even the biggest homers with blinders on get sick of it. I have been seeing people through various social media sites even talking about what I have been saying for years, the Parise and Suter contracts will be one of the worst in Minnesota pro sports history. People are seeing this roster is both not a cup winning roster and big parts of it don't have the will and thirst to win one. People don't want to pay to see what we have been seeing since Suter and Parise got here. I honestly hope that Leipold just becomes a owner. Get a hard nosed GM in and let them run the team. Even if it's a Hextall who could make the money leeches want to get out of here cause they want to get paid but not put in the work. Something to reset the atmosphere and break up the locker room issues. The team can not continue doing what they are doing. They can't center around old and washed vets like Koivu, Suter and Parise. They can't let players go off and do their own things without punishment. They can't continue minor tweaks. They can't continue with CL interfering with the GMs job and the GM interfering with the coaches job. They can't allow players to go past the coach and GM to complain about something to the owner they are friends with. They need a GM who is the opposite of all of this and is willing to make CL go sit in the corner and be quiet. Punish any player who doesn't follow the rules or causes locker room issues. Bench players being ineffective regardless of pay. Maybe one day we will see this happen. Hopefully Leipold is a smart enough businessman to realize his interference is not working anymore and needs a good hard nose person to run it.
  9. The Wild are the most successful, unsuccessful team ever. They make insane, bone headed moves, seem to have a badly function management team and allow certain players to create their own rules without punishment and still somehow manage to scrape a playoff spot. Granted they will never be more then a first round punching bag (and if you think they have a shot to be more then that then you really are not watching the Wild and the rest of the hockey teams) but they still find just a smidge of success. Nothing that makes the team able to win a cup. But that success also makes it impossible for them to draft well for the future, well, at least get a high draft pick.
  10. Great write up @CreaseAndAssist. My take on this team. It will not matter who is hired. The biggest issues are CL feeling/wanting to run the team and Parise and Suter acting as management instead of players. CL has to learn he is a owner. Sit down, shut up, sign checks and only make noise when things are completely out of control. No being friends with players. If players have issues they go to the GM or coach only. If CL wants to run a team with decisions and player management then he needs to sell the team and go be a GM. No GM or coach will have success as long as CL continues doing what he is doing. Parise and Suter need to learn they are nothing more then players. They aren't even super stars so stop running to daddy Craig when you get pushed to work a little or get yelled at. The Wild need to make CL office door behind another door that only GM and CL have a badge to get by. Give 20 and 11 a badge that allows them only access to the locker room. If these two things can happen then hire a GM that doesn't take chit from anybody. He isn't scared to make high paid players not performing well go through hell. That will create a work hard and win atmosphere. That won't accept making the playoffs as a win. That won't allow players to run the asylum. Only then can we have a shot.
  11. Even Brandon Mileski said his first interview with Fenton did not go good and basically after 2 questions went to basic yes and no questions due to how unwelcoming/friendly Fenton was to questions. I know he is a homer but he is pretty honest. So if Fenton was that way to the media could you image what it was like behind the scenes? But even without this coming to light just how Fenton managed his first year was worst then any of Fletchers. Horrible draft picks, horrible trades and forcing players into the lineup when they shouldn't be and more screams fire him.
  12. Sounds like he caused a lot of internal turmoil and didn't know how to talk to basically the media or people below him. Listening to radio interviews talking about this and what Russo has wrote his lack of ability to communicate and handle stuff like this was the final nail. Let's be honest here, his GM skills were pretty bad. Even with a healthy team, after all the people he ran out of here for orange pylons, this team would have missed the playoffs. Also, his draft picks.....
  13. Honestly I would believe this if he didn't have a connection with Leipold. I think with the warming house losing people and season ticket holders not renewing and mixing in very bad trades that did nothing for the franchise but lose key players for at least this franchise, a big impact move had to be done. I suspect Modano will be announced as the new GM.
  14. Give the guy credit. He worked hard to be worse then Fletcher. So what was your favorite Fenton moment?
  15. The biggest difference between the Wild and the Blues? One team has a group of guys who want to win it all, are willing to sacrifice to make it happen, work as a unit and support each other while another works in small cliques, only have a handful of guys willing to do whatever it takes to win it all, only a handful willing to sacrifice and overall don't work that well with each other. We can talk size tell we are blue in the face but what's the point when the Wild will only run Parise and Suter with their friends in the first 2 lines and in all key moments. It's frustrating. Thank god we signed another big, young, scoring machine in Mats Zuccarello. At least he plays 80 games every year..... o... wait....
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