Is the NHL All Star Game facing Extinction?

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http://thehockeywriters.com/is-the-nhl-all-star-game-facing-extinction/

 

The NHL’s first official all-star game took place during the 1947-48 season as a way of honouring – and showcasing – some of the league’s top players. Like any major sports league, the game has become an annual tradition with the exception of a few years.

 

Now, while it’s become a fun way to watch the stars of the game show off their offensive skills, there has been some discussion surrounding its relevance over the years. Arguments are made against the games lack of physicality – questioning the significance of the game and the time taken away from the season to fulfill the weekend’s events.

So is it time for the NHL to consider changing the game again? Should they take a page out of Major League Baseball’s book and add playoff implications to the mid-season classic? Or maybe they should follow in the footsteps of the National Football League and have it at the end of the season. In this Tape2Tape roundtable discussion, a group from The Hockey Writers sit down to answer questions about the league’s need for the mid-season break and whether or not it’s time to dispose of the soft-hitting, but entertaining, NHL All-Star Game.

 

Included in today’s roundtable, are three writers from THW’s team who, along with being hockey savvy, have covered the NHL in their own respect.

• Kirk Vance (@kirkvance) has covered numerous subjects for THW since 2013. While he does have a broad range of hockey expertise, his major focus has been on the Boston Bruins.
• Mark Wallace Graham (@MarkWGraham) is a Boston Bruins beat writer for THW. He’s written about the technicalities of Stanley Cup engravings, and a look back at the 1999 NHL Draft.
• Cam Kerry (@camkerryPRS) covers the Los Angeles beat for THW. He’s the founder of Press Room Sports and has questioned whether or not the NHL is without a true superstar.

How is the NHL All-Star Game significant – or is it?

 

Kirk: The all-star game is one of the best platforms the NHL has to show some personality. Players are free to be creative and try things that they can’t afford to try in a game with meaning. A number of players get mic’d for the game, and it gives fans a chance to hear the sounds of the game – including commentary as the game is going on. That alone enhances the experience for everyone involved.

 

The game also gives fans that complain about a lack of scoring across the league the chance to see goals scored in bunches. It is a unique opportunity for the NHL to draw in new fans, by displaying their elite offensive players in an offence-happy environment. While it may not be an accurate representation of the NHL product, it is definitely something that can grab the attention of casual fans.

 

Mark: The NHL All-Star, like many other leagues, is not all that important. There really is no incentive for the players to play in this game, aside from the NHL’s rules surrounding the game and unless they have a clause in their contract that gives them a bonus for making the all-star team.

 

With the NHL season being long and the sport of hockey taking a toll on players bodies, why would anyone actually want to play in this game? I’d take the time off and rest for when it really matters, the NHL season.

 

Cam: While many all-star games are deemed a waste of time and a display of top players’ lack of effort, the NHL All-Star Game shows off the sheer talent of the game’s top players. It’s a display of offensive wizardry – a reason for fans to get excited about seeing the best players go head to head. The skills competitions can also be breathtaking with unbelievable shootout goals and blazing snapshots that leave the crowd in awe.

 

How can the all-star game become more meaningful?

Kirk: Based on the physical nature of hockey, trying to add meaning to the all-star game would be a bad idea. Major League Baseball has incorporated playoff implications into their all-star game, but if this were to happen in the NHL, the risk of injuries would outweigh the benefit of the improved product.

 

The 82-game regular season schedule and the two months of playoff hockey provide plenty of physical play, this is a totally different look into the game of hockey, and does not need to force additional meaning.

 

Mark: I really can’t think of any way to make the NHL All-Star Game more meaningful. The game is really just for the fans to see superstars show off on the ice – there is zero brag gin rights or incentive to winning the game. The MLB All-Star Game kind of matters because the winner of the game gets home-field advantage in the World Series, but I don’t really like that rule.

 

I would hope that the NHL wouldn’t stoop to that level to gain more of an audience. The NHL did adopt a fantasy sports style draft when it comes to choosing teams, something the NFL have instituted themselves and it was a little interesting. But like all gimmicks, it’s going to wear off. Long story short, there really is no way to make the NHL All-Star Game meaningful – especially if the players don’t really care themselves.

 

Cam: I don’t think that the all-star game can be made meaningful. Players aren’t going to give their all in an event that can damage their health playing with their respective teams. Som sort of bonuses would need to be paid out as well as an extended break for players to gain the necessary rest would and have recovery time would add incentives and add to the desire to win the game.

Would an NHL/KHL All-Star Game be more worthwhile?

Kirk: An NHL/KHL All-Star Game, while entertaining, would be a disaster. The two leagues play very different styles of hockey. These differences would require adjustments for the all-stars of both leagues – an effort that doesn’t seem to make sense for one exhibition game.

 

Furthermore, the leagues don’t share a revenue stream, so an injury could have a major impact on one league, while there would be no ramifications for the player, team or league that caused the injury. Interleague exhibition games introduce far more risk than reward and would not be worth the hassle for either league.

 

Mark: An NHL versus KHL All-Star Game would be a great start in bringing the NHL All-Star Game back to relevance. Not only would the United States and Canada be invested in this game, but Russia as well. It could be a game the entire globe really could care about.

 

Seeing arguably the top two tiers in the hockey world duke it out would make for an attractive game and make for great publicity in both the NHL and the KHL. Even the most casual of hockey fans could get into a U.S./Canada and Russia matchup.

 

Cam: While an NHL versus KHL game would increase the competitive nature of the game with players competing for pride of their leagues, I feel like it wouldn’t be worthwhile for the NHL to compete in the game. Travel would be a pain and I believe that the NHL would dominate because they boast a higher quality of play.

 

A potential problem of the NHL/KHL All-Star Game could be that NHL players depart overseas in order to get more money knowing they would still get a chance to compete against their former NHL counterparts. While I don’t think this would happen with everyone, it could definitely intrigue more players to bolt for the likes of CSKA Moscow and other major teams in Russia

 

Is it time to do away with the NHL All-Star Game completely?

Kirk: The NHL All-Star Game is a tradition that I would hate to see them eliminate. It may not be a highly competitive game, like the playoffs that highlight the best product the NHL has to offer, but it’s nice to see the free-flowing offence in a game where you can tell the players are having a blast.

 

For me, the skills competition and rookie versus sophomore game are entertaining enough to preserve the All-Star Game, even if I didn’t enjoy the actual game. When the lockout happened in 2004, they lost the major network coverage for the game – ABC and FOX in the decade leading up to the lockout and Versus and NBCSports following the stoppage. The networks always added a lot of interesting features. Since the game was of no consequence, the networks were willing to try out some new technology, including the FoxTrax puck, which gave fans added incentive to tune in.

 

Mark: Perhaps it is time to get rid of the All-Star Game. Interest has been waning in all-star games and resorting to gimmicks, like the fantasy draft, may be a sign that it’s time to put the game out to pasture.

 

Cam: I don’t believe that now is the time. It still generates interest among fans and serves as a source of pride for players. A fun, relaxed time where the abundance of offence doesn’t hurt the league. Keep it, at least for now.

Certainly, it’s clear that the table is split on significance and necessity of the all-star game. While the compete level is something to be questioned, it does allow fans to see that these players enjoy hockey as much as any average individual.

While the hardcore hockey fan may be disappointed in the lack of physicality, there is no arguing the popularity of the entire weekend – with the skills competition and rookie game drawing large crowds and audiences along with the game itself.

In 2016, Nashville will host the all-star events for the first time in the history of the mid-season showcase. Not only does it bring the hockey world’s focus onto the city of Nashville, but the community also benefits from the event.

 

“Hosting the 2016 NHL All-Star Game is a huge win for Nashville,” said the city’s Mayor Karl Dean in an interview with NHL.com. “We have hosted big sporting events like this, and we know it benefits our city in many ways, particularly our downtown and hospitality businesses. I look forward to showcasing the enthusiastic base of hockey supporters in our region and all that Music City has to offer.”

 

On thing is for sure – the game, or rather the tradition, won’t end anytime soon. The best in the game need to be recognized and, for now, the NHL All-Star Game is the best way to do it.

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So what does everyone think?  Should the NHL All Star Game be dropped all together?  What would you do do improve it?  Should they bring back the young guns game ?

 

Personally, I like the skills competition.  Nothing like some bragging right to see which goalie stops the most 1 on 1 breakaways.  The accuracy competition is pretty cool too along with the hardest shot.

 

Just thinking outside the box, what about 2 periods of hockey with the NHL All Stars and then 2 periods of young guns or a mixture of the two?  That might mean less All Stars for the weekend festivities.  Jut thinking out loud here....not sure if any of it would even be appeasing to the fans

 

Or do we just leave the All Star Game as it is right now?

 

Thoughts / ideas??

[nORRis8]

Waste of time. I never watched the game just the skills competition...but now I dont even watch that.

 

If you had a true fastest skater/shot etc. in the League by inviting players after they have their own team competition to the AS game....then yes...it would be interesting.

As of now its more like which Allstar has the hardest shot/fastest skater.....it does not answer the question of these skills.

 

If they cant do that....shut the League down at game 41 for about 6 days and give everyone including the Allstars a breather.

[TropicalFruitGirl26]

I think they can leave the All Star Game as it is.

 

The mid season break is nice for the NHL, because as everyone knows, the season and the ensuing playoffs (should a team get there that is) is a very, very grueling affair.

 

The NHL SHOULD have a point in time where they showcase their talents, and just be entertaining for the sake of entertaining.

Is the ASG itself a farce? Sure, if you look at it as a game like a regular season or playoff game.

It isn't. It is a showcase. Guys are trying to win the game, sure, but at the end of the day, they are happy just being in it, many fans still like it, and everyone is wary of not getting hurt.

 

Looking at it from a pure entertainment point of view, or as a way to hook in the casual fan, then I think it serves its purpose just fine.

 

Personally, I don't care much for the ASG...though I DO like the skills competition. I will watch the ASG in bits n pieces, track who scored what, but once its over, for me, its over....it matters not in the long term.

I think the skills competition could use some tweaking and some events remain consistent, but again, at the end of the day, it's all about the NHL, for those three days or so, being just a bit Hollywood and hamming it up for the fans.

 

Under NO circumstances should the NHL ever do what MLB has done and added home field/ice implications to the game.

This has already cause problems within baseball as to the seriousness of the MLB all star game, and has certainly created controversy as to how it is managed, who plays in it, and HOW hard or no players should be going if it means home field.

 

Hockey does NOT need that mess. Keep the ASG fun, keep it light, keep it as a showcase, and all is good.

So no one hits in the ASG..big deal. I wouldn't want them to.

Why hit and run the risk of hurt players on a game that means jack squat, then not have those players available for playoff runs and playoff series?

 

As for the ASG being placed at the end of the season like the NFL, first off, taking a page out of ANYTHING the NFL does can't be good for the NHL business model (yea, that's my cheap shot at the NFL, I am usually good for a about a half dozen in any given NFL season...  ).

In all seriousness...do even NFL FANS care about who, what, when or where their Pro Bowl is?? Not many do. Why? Probably because after the Super Bowl, anything else is anticlimactic. Fans are celebrating their winning team and the others are looking ahead to next season.

No one gives a rat's arse about the Pro Bowl.

 

Same would happen in the NHL after a grueling 82 game schedule, another possible 28 wins for the team winning the Cup.

It would be anticlimactic, it would be hot, people are at the beaches then, in short, no one would care, or even know it is taking place.....not to mention, I am sure you would get many players mysteriously come up with "ailments" because they don't want to cut short their relaxing off season to be with family and friends to participate in an event that no one would really care about.

 

And if the NHL would like to use that as a 'showcase', well, that would defeat the purpose if no one except cave crickets are watching...

 

 

IMO, just leave the ASG alone as it is. A fun diversion.

No playoff/home ice implications, no regular season grinding and hitting, and no moving it to the part of the schedule where players and fans are mentally checked out of hockey.

Let the fans continue to vote in it, let the coaches manage the game in such a way to get everyone possible into the game, and let everyone keep using it as a fun time, and for those that don't get in it, as a way to rest, heal up, or just visit with family.

[ruxpin]

I'd rather watch quadriplegic golf than watch the NHL all star game.

It's utterly boring hockey to me. Hockey has never been just about skill for me; it's also about passion and effort and emotion. The ASG holds absolutely no interest to me.

And if I want to see a skills competition I'll just hope no one scores in overtime.

Kill it and do something more interesting and exciting... Like a Parcheese tournament.

[yave1964]

The last time I watched an All Star Game was.....Well I think never actually.

I do like the skills competition. Not the actual competition itself, it seems stupid, some of the thing sthey have you do. But it is fun watching the players unwind a bit, a lot of laughing and kidding around, the interviews. To me, that is the only part of the entire event that makes for a good time, I mean, who cares that Chara can fire a puck at five hundred and two miles an hour? I like watching the looks on the guys faces sitting around watching as he does so.

[jammer2]

   jammer2's solution to the All Star debate

 

 

 Go the baseball route, straight up East vs West, winner gets home ice in the Stanley Cup Finals. Do away with the rule you must have a player from every team. Do not let the fans vote. Let the coaches from last years final 4 pick the entire roster. Acknowledge from the very start that the team will have checkers and defensive stalwarts....let the coaches pick the very best team to win the game....have a real checking line. Under these rules, guys like Vlasic make the team instantly.

 

  I love the idea of having an All Star checking line....let's honour the guys that muck it up in the corners and kill penalties like champs. Do not waiver, ignore all the crying and bitching about some stars not making the cut. Pick 3 goalies, but let them all understand from the get go, if the starter is playing great, they will probably not get in the game. Allow and encourage checking, target the other teams stars and waste them. This game would be so exciting we would **** our pants!!! 

 

 

 If some teams do not want to risk injury to their stars, pass them by and go to the next contestant.

[TropicalFruitGirl26]

Damn, @jammer2 , you one mean dude......