CoachX Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 See! Now i know the pussification is complete. Flyer fans are being objectionally reasonable about a hit that injures our top scorer The world is spinning backwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Objective or not: 1) It's late. Even in real time. Not absurdly so, but late 2) He hits right into the chin first. Principle point of contact, then the body. Look, I like what has been a traditional open ice hit. I'm not even sure Borowiecki had any time to change course--which argues against the "late" claim, but I'm really not sure he did. What I *am* saying, though, is that I've seen less or similar get a fine or suspension. At the very least, a droning and confusing video from the league as to why it isn't. The league simply confuses me with these things. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, King Knut said: Still need to see the slow mo replay Ok, I've seen it. I don't have a problem with that hit. I have a huge problem with the pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Podein25 said: Ok, I've seen it. I don't have a problem with that hit. I have a huge problem with the pass. ^^^ This. The pass was absurd. I suspect that's why TK just angled it forward rather than trying to receive it, but man what a bad pass. Already been said, but a vet needs to be better than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, ruxpin said: Objective or not: 1) It's late. Even in real time. Not absurdly so, but late 2) He hits right into the chin first. Principle point of contact, then the body. Look, I like what has been a traditional open ice hit. I'm not even sure Borowiecki had any time to change course--which argues against the "late" claim, but I'm really not sure he did. What I *am* saying, though, is that I've seen less or similar get a fine or suspension. At the very least, a droning and confusing video from the league as to why it isn't. The league simply confuses me with these things. Borowiecki at least had time to not drill him. And that's really what this is about. Do you take the opportunity to do serious career and quality of life harm to a guy (talk to Pronger, Primeau and Lindros about how their post concussion lives have been, let alone what we know about CTE related illnesses and suicides) or do you respect him enough not to do that to him. That's what we're talking about. I'm okay with a league that has softer hits that don't do this to a player. I prefer it greatly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I have a problem with the flyers not having a player who could kick a mud hole in his chest, then stomp it dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, King Knut said: I'm okay with a league that has softer hits that don't do this to a player. I prefer it greatly. Pusssy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poulin20 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, ruxpin said: Objective or not: 2) He hits right into the chin first. Principle point of contact, then the body. That is my biggest problem with the hit. He comes up high with 2 hands. What happened to the old shoulder to the chest check? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, CoachX said: I have a problem with the flyers not having a player who could kick a mud hole in his chest, then stomp it dry Lol. That is a fantastic expression, where did you first hear that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, Poulin20 said: That is my biggest problem with the hit. He comes up high with 2 hands. What happened to the old shoulder to the chest check? In this case, I honestly don't think it matters: TK's brain is sloshing around in his head whether there is contact to the head or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Podein25 said: Lol. That is a fantastic expression, where did you first hear that? Can I lie and say its an original? Kinda like when i stole "trust the process" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, Podein25 said: In this case, I honestly don't think it matters: TK's brain is sloshing around in his head whether there is contact to the head or not. In that context, no, it doesn't matter. It only matters because the league--in its droning, incoherent videos--often makes that an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Truthfully, I got it from A Delaware State Trooper who was kind of a mentor I was dating his daughter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, Podein25 said: Pusssy Dave Duerson and Junior Seau shot themselves IN THE CHEST specifically because while they couldn't handle the way their CTE made them feel anymore and they decided they needed to end their lives because of it. BUT they also knew that shooting themselves in the head would destroy the evidence that researchers might be able to use to help other athletes and soldiers with similar problems. Let me repeat: THEIR POST-CONCUSSION PROBLEMS WERE SO BAD THEY DECIDED TO SHOOT THEMSELVES, BUT THEY CHOSE THE SLOWER MORE PAINFUL WAY TO SHOOT THEMSELVES IN THE HOPE IT MIGHT HELP OTHER PEOPLE WITH CONCUSSION RELATED PROBLEMS. But you know... Borowiecki isn't a ***** and I am. I'm really okay with softer hits if it ends up preventing **** like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Poulin20 said: That is my biggest problem with the hit. He comes up high with 2 hands. What happened to the old shoulder to the chest check? Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, King Knut said: BUT they also knew that shooting themselves in the head would destroy the evidence that researchers might be able to use to help other athletes and soldiers with similar problems You have no way of knowing this. Neitther does anyone else. Its pure careless speculation to try to prove a thoery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CoachX said: You have no way of knowing this. Neitther does anyone else. Its pure careless speculation to try to prove a thoery They both wrote their families explaining it. It was reported on extensively. Edited December 10, 2019 by King Knut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, ruxpin said: In that context, no, it doesn't matter. It only matters because the league--in its droning, incoherent videos--often makes that an issue. Fair enuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, King Knut said: They both wrote their families explaining it. It was reported on extensively. Duerson did. Seau didnt. It was also during the height of a multimillion dollar legal suit. You are also using football as a comaprison to hockey. Head ci tact is football is constant, hence the helmet. Not the same i. Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, CoachX said: Duerson did. Seau didnt. It was also during the height of a multimillion dollar legal suit. You are also using football as a comaprison to hockey. Head ci tact is football is constant, hence the helmet. Not the same i. Hockey ...where they don't wear helmets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, CoachX said: Duerson did. Seau didnt. It was also during the height of a multimillion dollar legal suit. You are also using football as a comaprison to hockey. Head ci tact is football is constant, hence the helmet. Not the same i. Hockey And Belak and Rypien were "just depressed" and Boogard was a fighter. You're equivocating and you know it. Pronger and Primeau couldn't play with their kids years later their symptoms were so bad... so because they didn't shoot themselves that makes it okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, ruxpin said: ...where they don't wear helmets. Though intentional Helmet to helmet contact is illegal in the NFL and would qualify as illegal in the NHL as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, CoachX said: You are also using football as a comparison to hockey. Exactly right: Flyers need a few good long snappers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 They need that guy who hit the Pittsburgh qb in the head with his own helmet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, CoachX said: They need that guy who hit the Pittsburgh qb in the head with his own helmet Can he skate, lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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