NHL HHOF Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Just a little reminder that Alex Ovechkin is only 72 goals away from tying Wayne Gretzky for the most goals in NHL history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaucyJack Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) On 7/9/2023 at 1:16 PM, NHL HHOF said: Just a little reminder that Alex Ovechkin is only 72 goals away from tying Wayne Gretzky for the most goals in NHL history. Perhaps I am in the minority of Caps fans in my lack of historic regard for Ovechkin. Here are some other remarkable comparisons between Ovie and Gretzky. (To date, Ovie has played 140 less regular season games than The Great One.) Points: Gretzky 2,857 Ovie 1,485 +/-: Gretzky +520 Ovie +67 No comparison whatsoever! How ‘bout playoffs where it matters most. Gretz played 208 games, Ovie is at 147 now. Both played on mostly good squads, but the Great One surely had better line mates esp Kurri. Goals: Gretzky 122, Ovie 72 Points: Gretzky 382, Ovie 141 +/-: Gretzky +91, Ovie +5 (what?!?) GWG (clutch playoff performance) - Gretzky 24 - Ovechkin 10 (zero in OT, btw) Again, no comparison really even taking into account Gretzky’s Oilers being huge for most of his playoff tenure there. At some point, need to do similar comparisons between Ovie and other great players of the modern era. Will he deserve a Top Ten All Time ?!? Edited July 18, 2023 by SaucyJack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL HHOF Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Chasing History: Ovechkin's Top 3 https://www.nhl.com/video/chasing-history-ovechkins-top-3/t-277350912/c-18243912 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaucyJack Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 I’m waiting on the league to officially grant Ovie an assist on the first Penguins goal Friday night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaucyJack Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Two consecutive games (CGY, @OTT) with zero shots on goal by the Ovinator. First time this has happened in his career. Breaking up the Slow Line (Ovi-Backs-Oshie) sure provided dividends in Ottawa last night eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL HHOF Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Alex Ovechkin fails to record a shot in consecutive games for first time in career One of the NHL's preeminent snipers is off to a bit of a sluggish start by his standards. https://ca.yahoo.com/sports/news/alex-ovechkin-fails-to-record-a-shot-in-consecutive-games-for-first-time-in-career-121306566.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flyercanuck Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 7/17/2023 at 10:30 PM, SaucyJack said: Perhaps I am in the minority of Caps fans in my lack of historic regard for Ovechkin. Here are some other remarkable comparisons between Ovie and Gretzky. (To date, Ovie has played 140 less regular season games than The Great One.) Points: Gretzky 2,857 Ovie 1,485 +/-: Gretzky +520 Ovie +67 No comparison whatsoever! How ‘bout playoffs where it matters most. Gretz played 208 games, Ovie is at 147 now. Both played on mostly good squads, but the Great One surely had better line mates esp Kurri. Goals: Gretzky 122, Ovie 72 Points: Gretzky 382, Ovie 141 +/-: Gretzky +91, Ovie +5 (what?!?) GWG (clutch playoff performance) - Gretzky 24 - Ovechkin 10 (zero in OT, btw) Again, no comparison really even taking into account Gretzky’s Oilers being huge for most of his playoff tenure there. At some point, need to do similar comparisons between Ovie and other great players of the modern era. Will he deserve a Top Ten All Time ?!? Some other notes on comparing the two...Gretzky rang up all those goals while being the best playmaker in the game. OV rang up all those goals while being one of the biggest goal sucks in the game. He's spent most of his career thinking shoot first. Ovechkin has played 1 less year than Gretzky, yet has 1300 more shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 With only 2 Goals in 7 games so far this year, he is on pace for a career low of about 24 or 25 Goals for the year. Caps are a bad hockey team right now ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaucyJack Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, flyercanuck said: OV rang up all those goals while being one of the biggest goal sucks in the game. He's spent most of his career thinking shoot first. And as you said also, never the playmaker Gretzky (or Lemieux) were. It’s one reason I do not want Gretzky’s record broken; it would further overrate Ovechkin. I don’t hate Ovie; more like disappointed in his overall game through the years, his usual inability to play 2-way (despite his hard-checking prowess), and inability to raise his game and team in playoffs. ————- Anybody remember basketball’s “Pistol Pete” Maravich? LSU then New Orleans Jazz? Biggest shot hog in history of sport. Scored a ton but so many turnovers and never passed the ball. Hard to be quite like that in hockey but maybe Ovie is the closest that comes to mind like this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, SaucyJack said: And as you said also, never the playmaker Gretzky (or Lemieux) were. It’s one reason I do not want Gretzky’s record broken; it would further overrate Ovechkin. I don’t hate Ovie; more like disappointed in his overall game through the years, his usual inability to play 2-way (despite his hard-checking prowess), and inability to raise his game and team in playoffs. ————- Anybody remember basketball’s “Pistol Pete” Maravich? LSU then New Orleans Jazz? Biggest shot hog in history of sport. Scored a ton but so many turnovers and never passed the ball. Hard to be quite like that in hockey but maybe Ovie is the closest that comes to mind like this? And one of the few times he ever bought into the "team" mentality....he won the cup. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alexandron Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 I started to be a skeptical if Ovechkin will ever pass Gretzky record in goals. Just in one category "maximum goals production in NHL career". In my opinion, we should not compare records of Ovechkin and Gretzky in other categories, because they played in different era, different hockey, different teams. Ovechkin started his season in a very unusual for him low production. This why I am skeptical now if he will be able to beat Gretzky record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaucyJack Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) On 11/10/2023 at 9:14 AM, Alexandron said: we should not compare records of Ovechkin and Gretzky in other categories, because they played in different era, different hockey, different teams. I don’t know that the sport today is all that different from the 80’s and 90’s when Gretzky ran wild and earned what I think is his G.O.A.T. honor. Now the game is very different from the days I first watched as a kid, roughly 1968 to 1972. Teams mostly played 4 D and 3 lines. An extra forward might come on mostly to penalty kill. Defenseman always skated backwards in their own zone. It seemed like a rush was nearly always 3-on-2 as forwards didn’t seem to back-check quickly. Bottom line: if someone went to YouTube and watched numerous game clips from, say, 1970 & 1984 & 2022, I’ll wager that play from 1984 resembles that of 2022 (38 years later) far more than it does to 1970 (14 years prior). Edited November 11, 2023 by SaucyJack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NHL HHOF Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I think he will score only 25 goals this season, which will put him at 847. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL HHOF Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 The way things are going right now, it looks like it won't happen for another 3 or 4 seasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NHL HHOF Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Why isn't Ovechkin scoring?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, NHL HHOF said: Why isn't Ovechkin scoring?! How old is he ? He might *just be an NHL player at his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewin Flames Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 11 games w/out a goal, but i have no doubt he'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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