toughfighter83 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) what would take for the flyers to get him? he's the defensive player of the year for the ahl, he's clearly a winner, i would give a first and maybe courts or laughton for him? flyers wanted him for the start and oilers have a new gm, so i would take advantage of that, if i was homer or hopefully maybe new gm if snider wakes up and wants to win now, get him. Edited April 18, 2013 by toughfighter83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) @toughfighter83the problem there is that he is exactly the kind of player that the oilers need if they ever want to stop drafting in the top 5. i'd think his value to them is probably higher than his value to most other teams. and, there's the other thing, Edmonton can't be too impressed with high draft picks any more. they need roster players, not kids. kinda doubt couturier or laughton are what they're looking for. I imagine vet defensemen are highest on their list.edit: also, he was the WCHA defensive player of the year, a year ago. and, apparently, the year before that. he's been in Edmonton since January. and his -17 scares me a little. I haven't seen much of him, but when you have the worst +/- on an oilers' squad.... Edited April 18, 2013 by aziz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertaflyer Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) what would take for the flyers to get him? he's the defensive player of the year for the ahl, he's clearly a winner, i would give a first and maybe courts or laughton for him? flyers wanted him for the start and oilers have a new gm, so i would take advantage of that, if i was homer or hopefully maybe new gm if snider wakes up and wants to win now, get him.Are you serious? He's the Oiler's best Dman. He won the award and only played half the season in the AHL. The kid is pretty much untouchable. It would take half our top forwards. WOW! Edited April 18, 2013 by albertaflyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 So Mesz and a second rounder thrown in doesn't cut it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 @toughfighter83The time to have acquired Schultz was last summer, Schultz wanted a guarantee he would be playing in the NHL, Homer couldn't make that promise......thus Philly fell out of the Schultz race. Schultz was a FA and chose where he wanted to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertaflyer Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 @toughfighter83The time to have acquired Schultz was last summer, Schultz wanted a guarantee he would be playing in the NHL, Homer couldn't make that promise......thus Philly fell out of the Schultz race. Schultz was a FA and chose where he wanted to play.Actually it was the crop of young forwards that was the final sale for Schultz. I'm pretty sure a few of the players did really good job of selling Edmonton to him. From what he has said anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertaflyer Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I've seen the kid play a ton this year and he is one of the best young defensmen I've seen in a long time. Speed and skill and a wrist shot from the point that is harder than most guys slap shots. Once he gets a steady D partner he going to be one of the best in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Actually it was the crop of young forwards that was the final sale for Schultz. I'm pretty sure a few of the players did really good job of selling Edmonton to him. From what he has said anyways. Yeah, it wasn't just one consideration. In hindsight though he probably would have played more NHL games with the Flyers than Edmonton. :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 In hindsight though he probably would have played more NHL games with the Flyers than Edmonton. :wacko:Huh? All NHL teams play the same number of games, 48 this season!?! He's played in every one so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Huh? All NHL teams play the same number of games, 48 this season!?! He's played in every one so far!Yeah, you are right, I didn't look it up. So then this is bogus that he is the AHL defensive player of the year. -duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) @hf101It's true.... He played 34 games in the AHL before the lockout ended. http://theahl.com/sc...e-award-p183262 Edited April 18, 2013 by DaGreatGazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Just taking a quick gander at the AHL d-man scoring...they must have taken Schultz out, but he had 48 pts in 38 games during the lockout, so when you look at the rest of the pack, his stats look amazing!http://theahl.com/stats/statdisplay.php?type=top_scorers&subType=1&season_id=34&league_id=4&division_id=-1&confId=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Yeah, you are right, I didn't look it up. So then this is bogus that he is the AHL defensive player of the year. -duhNot so sure it's bogus. I saw him several times down here. He was leading the AHL in scoring for most of the time he was in the AHL. His play is effortless. Solid defensively and able to join the rush. Flyers fans would get wood if he somehow ended up on the Flyers roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertaflyer Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Not so sure it's bogus. I saw him several times down here. He was leading the AHL in scoring for most of the time he was in the AHL. His play is effortless. Solid defensively and able to join the rush. Flyers fans would get wood if he somehow ended up on the Flyers roster.He never will. He will be in Edmonton for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a 6-8 year deal after his rookie deal is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) Just taking a quick gander at the AHL d-man scoring...they must have taken Schultz out, but he had 48 pts in 38 games during the lockout, so when you look at the rest of the pack, his stats look amazing!http://theahl.com/st..._id=-1&confId=0@jammer2,You had the wrong year. Try this link. He still leads all AHL defenseman in scoring and hasn't played an AHL game in over 3 months.http://theahl.com/st..._id=-1&confId=0 Edited April 18, 2013 by AlaskaFlyerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 So wow, check out the stats on NHL.comhttp://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8474602they didn't count his AHL games this season, no wonder........ I guess those stats were not counted due to the layoffs during the lockout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 @AlaskaFlyerFan ahhh, thanks for spotting that....given the stats for the right year...lol, how do you *not* give him that award? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 what would take for the flyers to get him?Why he is basically Bruno Gervais with a little bit better scoring flare that is it(23 points in 43 games yet -15 yikes how about a little D)...he ain't/won't play defense....so no Flyers need to pass.But you don't expect the goalie to stop the puck so you probaly don't expect the Dmen to play defense too huh????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Once he gets a steady D partner he going to be one of the best in the league.Sorry just don't see it...but stranger things have happened...i guess you could learn to live with him if you expected him not to play defense like what i've seen so far. Time will tell....for now we disagree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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