RonJeremy Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 We need skill, skating and creativity on the blueline and we pick a big ,slow guy with limited skill, another dumb pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmdodgesrt4 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 It's a good pick. Flyers aren't done yet. I think they will grab another 1st rounder for another dman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 If that's the case then we shoulda took Pulock with this pick and take the project in the second round. We already have Schenn and Grossman, why take someone exactly the same? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 We need skill, skating and creativity on the blueline and we pick a big ,slow guy with limited skill, another dumb pick.Slow? Hardly. He's a project that we likely wont see for 3 or 4 years on the Flyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aziz Posted June 30, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2013 We need skill, skating and creativity on the blueline and we pick a big ,slow guy with limited skill, another dumb pick.Neither you nor I know what the team's needs will be in three or four years. Current skill problems on the blue line were not going to be addressed by an 18 year old child at this draft, no matter who was taken. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearOnIce Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 CP20 is making the picks. He will be assistant GM then GM within 3 years. Book it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 @Aziiz Neither you nor I know what the team's needs will be in three or four years.... Our needs will be the same as they have been for 30 years.We have needed a highly skilled defenseman since Mark Howe, we have been trading for defense for 30 years. Every top dman we have had has been traded for.. Howe, McCrimmon, Desjardins, Pronger, etc. We just signed a "skill" type dman, Streit,only problem is he is 35, To trade for defense you have to overpay and get into a bidding war. Where are we getting a dman with some flair and some skill, if we don't draft one? Its the same old story, we are going to be ripped off and have to trade for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyS Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Neither you nor I know what the team's needs will be in three or four years. Current skill problems on the blue line were not going to be addressed by an 18 year old child at this draft, no matter who was taken.A lot of folks were saying that Ristolin (sp.?) might have been able to step right in and play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 A lot of folks were saying that Ristolin (sp.?) might have been able to step right in and play.Step in and play? Sure, maybe. Be a first pair guy who solves a team's problems with lack of effective blue line finesse single handedly? No, probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 @aziz, If everyone went by your theory ,then Chicago wouldn't have drafted guys like Keith and Seabrooke and wouldn't have won the Cup by drafting an 18 year old child defenseman, and Boston wouldn't have picked Hamilton, who was is now in the NHL. The Flyers keep wanting to stay competitive and be good enough to make the playoffs, but not good enough to win the cup. Maybe we need to take a few steps back and build an all around team. We have no young defensemen with puck skills, other than tiny little Gustafsson, and hes certainly not a top 3 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario99 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 TSN says ETA is 2016 season LOL you go Skeletor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 @RonJeremyMany ways to build a blue line. Boston has zero truly offensive dmen and it seems to work for them. Plus, the best that could be said for chara on draft day was that he was huge and skated pretty ok for someone so huge. The effectiveness part comes later. Or not. Sounds like this kid has the tools, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnumpi Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 @RonJeremyyou don't base draft decisions on your current roster.Schenn/Grossman are irrelevant to the decision.He's going to make a real impact on the NHL roster for another 4 seasons; the entire roster could be turned over by thenyou draft the best player on your board.your logic would saywell, we already have mario lemieux, mark messier, and wayne gretsky/Steve yzerman is the best player on the board, we dont really need a center so we'll draft chris therien instead because we need a dman. even though Therien won't be ready for 4 seasons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earle'sGaffe Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Morin wasn't who I was pulling for, but I can at least hope that the pick is indicative of a newfound commitment to patiently developing players from within. C'mon, prove me right Homer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnumpi Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 HUH????????????????????????didn't the Flyers just draft a dman?so based on your professional scouting background, who should have the Flyers drafted@aziz, If everyone went by your theory ,then Chicago wouldn't have drafted guys like Keith and Seabrooke and wouldn't have won the Cup by drafting an 18 year old child defenseman, and Boston wouldn't have picked Hamilton, who was is now in the NHL. The Flyers keep wanting to stay competitive and be good enough to make the playoffs, but not good enough to win the cup. Maybe we need to take a few steps back and build an all around team. We have no young defensemen with puck skills, other than tiny little Gustafsson, and hes certainly not a top 3 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Gus was good enough to lead the Flyers in TOI at points this past "season", and led Sweden after the "season". Maybe the Flyers should try to develop the guys they have and see what they can do too? Timo isn't huge, but rumor has it, he had a solid career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario99 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I would have drafted Max Domi or Pulock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 · Hidden by hf101, June 30, 2013 - flaming content Hidden by hf101, June 30, 2013 - flaming content @magnumpi, your a moron. You certainly wouldn't be calling me names if I was standing in front of you, your another internet tough guy,.Are you a religious fanatic? with your anti porn stance. Do you have a sense of humor, or were you molested by a priest? Who said that Morin was the best player available? He is a reach, and you know nothing, you do base your needs on your current roster. How many times are we going to turn the roster over you imbecile, we just did that. How about building a team and keeping some guys around like winning teams do, look at Chicago. Obviously we have not been picking the best guys available, since we have traded most of them away, while other teams, have drafted and kept guys and had more success. Your a total douche. Link to comment
aziz Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 @aziz, If everyone went by your theory ,then Chicago wouldn't have drafted guys like Keith and Seabrooke and wouldn't have won the Cup by drafting an 18 year old child defenseman, and Boston wouldn't have picked Hamilton, who was is now in the NHL.<you pick who you like and hope it works out. people here have this weird idea what the final ISS scouting report is a prescient journal of how these players will turn out, but that so very isn't the case. sam morin might become an eight time Norris winner and darnell nurse might not be able to get his head around the NHL game and become a ten team journeyman bouncing from bottom pair to bottom pair. or vice versa. look at past draft sheets, and a lot of the time, the best results come outside of the top ten picks. i.e., from guys other than those uber hyped pre-draft. the flyers picked a guy with an apparently solid skill set and room to improve, and we'll see how it goes.you were hoping for Morrissey, who sounds like a distinct maybe in the NHL? or pulock, who sounds like his defensive game is a bit of a mess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 @magnumpi, we should have drafted Pulock, we already have , stay at home physical guys, and two over the hill puck skill guys like Timmo and Streit . You need guys who can skate and transition the puck and create plays, we have no one like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 @aziz, I don't go by that daft the best guy available, we always do that and that why we always have too many centers and no defense. We though Coots was the best guy, but how many people would much rather have Hamilton now. Sometimes you have to draft what you need, Pulock will probably be in the NHL before Morin and he is more of what we need than Morin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Monet Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 @RonJeremyfrom what I have read Morin is a very good, mobile skater and his skill set is ever increasing. A project....of course but they must have seen something they like. If the Flyers current blue line is healthy no one is stepping into the top six anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnumpi Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 · Hidden by hf101, June 30, 2013 - flaming content Hidden by hf101, June 30, 2013 - flaming content take it easy big man,i was telling you how I feel about the pig on your avatar; had nothing to do with you.And I do believe porn is filth and I do have certain religious beliefs.I suppose I'm not allowed to believe that way, huh? So much for freedom of thought, when it goes against your beliefs.@magnumpi, your a moron. You certainly wouldn't be calling me names if I was standing in front of you, your another internet tough guy,.Are you a religious fanatic? with your anti porn stance. Do you have a sense of humor, or were you molested by a priest? Who said that Morin was the best player available? He is a reach, and you know nothing, you do base your needs on your current roster. How many times are we going to turn the roster over you imbecile, we just did that. How about building a team and keeping some guys around like winning teams do, look at Chicago. Obviously we have not been picking the best guys available, since we have traded most of them away, while other teams, have drafted and kept guys and had more success. Your a total douche. Link to comment
magnumpi Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 · Hidden by hf101, June 30, 2013 - flaming content Hidden by hf101, June 30, 2013 - flaming content you fail to comprehend the pointThis draft pick won't make an impact until about 2017, at which point none of the dmen on the roster will be a factor.So you take the player who you like best on the board, regardless of your current roster.Is that too logically for you to understand?not the world's brightest thinker you are@magnumpi, we should have drafted Pulock, we already have , stay at home physical guys, and two over the hill puck skill guys like Timmo and Streit . You need guys who can skate and transition the puck and create plays, we have no one like that. Link to comment
aziz Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 <br />Sometimes you have to draft what you need, Pulock will probably be in the NHL before Morin and he is more of what we need than Morin. <br />most draftees will take several years before they are ready for the NHL, and you have no idea what the team is going to need then. it is entirely possible that the team's biggest need will be a physical shutdown defender. schenn blows out a knee, grossmann's back goes out, and gus finds magic in his game is putting up 45 points per season, and subban is traded to the flyers as an expiring FA next summer for two second round picks. at that point, the last thing you need is a one way offensive dman who had a tough time keeping track of his check in junior, much less the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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