OccamsRazor Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, radoran said: Goals? Not so much. Yeah even with an extra guy on the ice they can't score. That is turrible. I PP goal in the last 5 games. I'm just glad they hired Kris Knoblauch he has worked wonders with the PP. He owes Connor Mcdavid for his NHL coaching chance that he has squandered.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I feel your frustration Ghost i do... Isles on deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 If we blew this MEDIOCRE MESS up 4 years ago we would be better today. Just sayin. Finishing 8th gets you this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, radoran said: Exactly. They outshot Vegas 26-21 and lost 1-0. They outshot Boston 26-24 and lost 3-0. They outshot Colorado 37-34 and lost 5-2 then outshot them 38-32 and lost 4-1. They outshot Columbus 35-28 and lost 6-3. They certainly put up shots. Goals? Not so much. Hmm ... Very interesting stats. Valid question here...What type of quality of shots are being generated? Are the vast majority from the point or top of circles and are easy saves for the goalie. OR are they quality chances in the slot or in and around the net where the goalie made quality saves. I think those questions are valid and must be answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, pilldoc said: Hmm ... Very interesting stats. Valid question here...What type of quality of shots are being generated? Are the vast majority from the point or top of circles and are easy saves for the goalie. OR are they quality chances in the slot or in and around the net where the goalie made quality saves. I think those questions are valid and must be answered. They should trade Voracek now. I don't care what he did last year. I'm tired of overpaid, lazy primadonnas. The shots he takes are wide and lazy..backchecking and skating lazy...in the corners play lazy. LAZY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, pilldoc said: Hmm ... Very interesting stats. Valid question here...What type of quality of shots are being generated? Are the vast majority from the point or top of circles and are easy saves for the goalie. OR are they quality chances in the slot or in and around the net where the goalie made quality saves. I think those questions are valid and must be answered. One thing and this is from the eye ball test no data to back it is they are from outside perimeter shots teams are letting them have those because no one yet this season can bury one from distance. Very few of any are off of screens it is like no one knows how to set a screen. And to combat that the defense doesn't know how to defend one for Elliott. Mind blowing how dumb a offseason can make a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: Yeah even with an extra guy on the ice they can't score. That is turrible. I PP goal in the last 5 games. I'm just glad they hired Kris Knoblauch he has worked wonders with the PP. He owes Connor Mcdavid for his NHL coaching chance that he has squandered.... If it makes you feel any better, Stevie Wonder was Hakstol's second choice to coach the power play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, FD19372 said: If it makes you feel any better, Stevie Wonder was Hakstol's second choice to coach the power play. Good maybe he can see what is wrong wit it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: Good maybe he can see what is wrong wit it! You bring the Coppertone, OR. I'll bring the bottled water. We're both going to Hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, pilldoc said: I think those questions are valid and must be answered. On top of what i just stated about other teams forcing the Flyers to take distant outside shots there are two ways to combat that either burn them from the outside shots forcing them to chance it up or force them to by breaking inside a getting shome chance down low in close. It is like in football (i know not the best analogy but it will do) when teams are crowding the box and cheating the safety in down low the only way to combat that is to go deep and over their heads deep to make the respect the long ball. Do that enough and they will adjust. But success must come first for that to work. And it depends on the coaches mind set....some believe in sticking to their game plan and other see what they are doing and trying to adjust to counter attack that. Which is Hak??? I think he struggles to adjust and just believes like Berube use to do hey keep skating and dumping and chasing eventually they will break..." Which sadly has been wrong. Hak just isn't a great tactician i'm afraid or why we haven't seen any good adjustments. Not all coaches can do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, FD19372 said: You bring the Coppertone, OR. I'll bring the bottled water. We're both going to Hell. The perfect gif for their season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: The perfect gif for their season.... Perfect, except for no violinists or iceberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, FD19372 said: Perfect, except for no violinists or iceberg. "They need to give their balls a tug..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: "They need to give their balls a tug..." Time for a stick and stones check, I guess. Well, hey, if that doesn't work...there's always Cialis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: And it depends on the coaches mind set....some believe in sticking to their game plan and other see what they are doing and trying to adjust to counter attack that. Which is Hak??? I think he struggles to adjust and just believes like Berube use to do hey keep skating and dumping and chasing eventually they will break..." Which sadly has been wrong. Hak just isn't a great tactician i'm afraid or why we haven't seen any good adjustments. Not all coaches can do this. Which begs of another question that must be asked ........ Is Hak's time with this team up???? I mean seriously we are asking the very same questions this year that we asked last year and the year before that and the year before that. This is now the start of the 4th year for Hak. One would think he should start to be "getting it" by now. I know many have given him a pass, but he is simply not growing as a NHL coach. I think Hexy really needs to start looking at other coaching options from top to bottom..... Am I wrong here????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, pilldoc said: Is Hak's time with this team up???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brelic Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: "They need to give their balls a tug..." That sounds like a coach that's out of ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 #notsurprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 1:08 PM, radoran said: I'm all in favor of creative, but teams aren't lining up to give hot young players for waning vets. Ok let' redo the trade offer then... Simmer Voracek, Lindblom and Meyers would be a nice return. for Johnny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: Ok let' redo the trade offer then... Simmer Voracek, Lindblom and Meyers would be a nice return. for Johnny.... Well, that would. The question is still whether Calgary wants to give up their budding young Star. Again, I'll speculate that you wouldn't want to give up Gaudreau. Even for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, radoran said: The question is still whether Calgary wants to give up their budding young Star. SSSSssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Jake scored 80+ points!!!.....twice!!!!! Go with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 So you know Hextall has to be planning an exit strategy away from Hak. So I wonder where he would look? Down below to Gordon? Or to another head coach with some experience? Thoughts? Sutter said he was done coaching. Retired. So who else would be the guy? I like Tippett but he is part of the new Seattle group. Not sure if he has an out if an opportunity arises because he isn't the coach just a consultant. Thoughts. Ideas. Concerns welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 Within, you’re looking at Gordon or Knoblauch. Outside, there’s Sutter, Vigneault, Tippett, Hitchcock. My guess would be Knoblauch as interim until end of season or until a top level coach becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, brelic said: Sutter Sutter is retired. Said he is done coaching. So you'll have to look somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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