2019 NHL draft discussion

[OccamsRazor]

Well i notice we didn't have a thread for this so i figured now would be just as good a time as any.

 

One question to begin with. Will we ever seen another prospect ever score 282 points again in one season of junior like Lemieux did back in the day???

 

That is insane!!! 

 

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Laval Voisins “C”

QMJHL

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133

149

282

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Playoffs

14

29

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29

 

 

133 goals in 70 games??? UNREAL!!!!!!

 

 

I will just post one mock that as of right now isn't accurate but what the hell.

 

1		Colorado	Jack Hughes	C	USNTDP (USHL)	5' 10"	152
2		Los Angeles	Kaapo Kakko	RW	TPS Turku (SM-liiga)	6' 1.25"	187
3		Philadelphia	Vasily Podkolzin	RW	Vityaz Podolsk HC (Rus Jr)	6' 0"	182
4		Chicago	Dylan Cozens	C	Lethbridge(WHL)	6' 2.5"	174
5		Detroit	Kirby Dach	C	Saskatoon(WHL)	6' 3"	182
6		Florida	Matthew Boldy	RW	US-Under-17(USAH-NTDP)	6' 0"	196
7		NY Rangers	Philip Broberg	D	AIK (Allsvenskan)	6' 3"	198
8		New Jersey	Bowen Byram	D	Vancouver(WHL)	6' 0"	182
9		Arizona	Alex Turcotte	C	US-Under-18(USAH-NTDP)	5' 11"	190
10		St. Louis	Trevor Zegras	C	US-Under-17(USAH-NTDP)	5' 11"	165
11		Vancouver	Alexander Newhook	C	Victoria (BCHL)	5' 11"	170
12		Anaheim	Peyton Krebs	C	Kootenay (WHL)	5' 11"	168
13		Edmonton	Ryan Suzuki	C	London (OHL)	6' 0.5"	165
14		Minnesota	Arthur Kaliyev	RW	Hamilton (OHL)	6' 1"	183
15		Carolina	Matthew Robertson	D	Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL)	6' 2.75"	196
16		Colorado	Moritz Seider	D	Mannheim (DEL)	6' 4"	185
17		Dallas	Cam York	D	USNTDP (USHL)	5' 10.5"	166
18		Buffalo	Victor Söderström	D	Brynäs IF (SHL)	5' 11"	177
19		NY Islanders	Thomas Harley	D	Mississauga(OHL)	6' 2"	170
20		Montreal	Raphaël Lavoie	C	Halifax (QMJHL)	6' 3.5"	190
21		Pittsburgh	Cole Caufield	RW	US-Under-17(USAH-NTDP)	5' 6"	150
22		Boston	Nathan Légaré	C	Baie-Comeau(QMJHL)	6' 0"	197
23		Columbus	Alex Vlasic	D	USNTDP (USHL)	6' 4"	183
24		Nashville	Connor McMichael	C	London (OHL)	6' 0"	170
25		Toronto	Samuel Poulin	LW	Sherbrooke(QMJHL)	6' 1"	207
26		Washington	Albin Grewe	RW	Djurgården(Allsvenskan)	6' 0"	177
27		Las Vegas	Matvei Guskov	C	London (OHL)	6' 1"	165
28		Winnipeg	Brett Leason	RW	Prince Albert(WHL)	6' 3"	185
29		Buffalo	Bobby Brink	LW	Sioux City(USHL)	5' 10"	165
30		Calgary	John Beecher	LW	USNTDP (USHL)	6' 3.5"	202
31		Tampa Bay	Nolan Foote	LW	Kelowna (WHL)	6' 3"	187

 

 

Thoughts and comments welcome. And feel free to update the mock draft or even add a different one.

[Buffalo Rick]

Make up your mind  Are the Flyers going to get a high pick or make the playoffs?  Not going to get both.

[OccamsRazor]

17 minutes ago, Hockey Junkie said:

Make up your mind  Are the Flyers going to get a high pick or make the playoffs?  Not going to get both.

 

I don't know right now. My magic 8 ball is in the shop. Did you not read the post i said it wasn't accurate. Look it's right above the picks.

 

Go get your bifocals on. Flyers are on the hottest win streak in the NHl right now hard to say how they finish right now but the way the goalies are playing i could see the Flyers falling out the bottom 10 really.

 

They went from the bottom 6th from the bottom in a week or so. So right now i can't say.

[Buffalo Rick]

3 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

I don't know right now. My magic 8 ball is in the shop. Did you not read the post i said it wasn't accurate. Look it's right above the picks.

 

Go get your bifocals on. Flyers are on the hottest win streak in the NHl right now hard to say how they finish right now but the way the goalies are playing i could see the Flyers falling out the bottom 10 really.

 

They went from the bottom 6th from the bottom in a week or so. So right now i can't say.

I know.  5 in a row.  1-0 win vs the mighty Rangers.  OK.

[J0e Th0rnton]

For guys draft Eligible this year and or Overagers.

 

Raphael Lavoie from the mooseheads should go top 20 this year. Size, shot, skating. Not as high as some previous year Moose guys but he has the tools.

 

Samuel Asselin should get a tryout from someone. He is a good pest and could probably crack a teams bottom 6 someday.

 

 

Future guys....

 

Xavier Parent is not breaking out like I had hoped he would. He is just so small and hasn't put on any height like I hoped he would. So much skill, but gets pushed off the puck too easy.

 

Justin Barron IS going to be a guy that gets attention next year. Size, skating, hockey sense. puckmoving ability. Two way ability. everything you want in a Dman.

[OccamsRazor]

On 1/30/2019 at 10:49 AM, Hockey Junkie said:

I know.  5 in a row.  1-0 win vs the mighty Rangers.  OK.

 

8 in a row but who is counting!

 

[Buffalo Rick]

On 2/7/2019 at 12:25 PM, OccamsRazor said:

 

8 in a row but who is counting!

 

Well I should be cheering on Philly when Pittsburgh comes in there.  Sabres are right on their heels.  And the Blues are a coming

[ruxpin]

16 minutes ago, Hockey Junkie said:

And the Blues are a coming

 

For the same exact reason as the Flyers:   They finally put a goalie in there.   Binnington is playing lights out.

[OccamsRazor]

54 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

 

For the same exact reason as the Flyers:   They finally put a goalie in there.   Binnington is playing lights out.

 

Yeah we all said Allen was garbage...well all except Rick.

 

 

[flyercanuck]

9 hours ago, Hockey Junkie said:

Well I should be cheering on Philly when Pittsburgh comes in there.  Sabres are right on their heels.  And the Blues are a coming

 

Is it just me or have we been hearing this for like 10 years?

[ruxpin]

40 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

 

Is it just me or have we been hearing this for like 10 years?

Yes. 10 years. It started right before Ryan Miller's 20th birthday. 

[flyercanuck]

On 1/30/2019 at 9:48 AM, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

One question to begin with. Will we ever seen another prospect ever score 282 points again in one season of junior like Lemieux did back in the day???

 

That is insane!!! 

 

 

 

OR...back in those days the Q was a very wide open league with not much D going on. Stats were typically inflated. Combine that with a generational talent who also had great size and that's what you ended up with. There are plenty of no name players who averaged over 2 ppg in the Q over their career. The OHL has like 3 guys who've done it all time.

 

[OccamsRazor]

38 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

 

OR...back in those days the Q was a very wide open league with not much D going on. Stats were typically inflated. Combine that with a generational talent who also had great size and that's what you ended up with. There are plenty of no name players who averaged over 2 ppg in the Q over their career. The OHL has like 3 guys who've done it all time.

 

 

I gotcha but damn 133 goals in 70 games did they even use goalies?

[flyercanuck]

5 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

I gotcha but damn 133 goals in 70 games did they even use goalies?

 

It's still very impressive. He was big, highly skilled and could skate. And had a great shot. And soft hands. And could he ever whine. 

[ruxpin]

22 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

 

It's still very impressive. He was big, highly skilled and could skate. And had a great shot. And soft hands. And could he ever whine. 

 

He had soft hands.  He didn't whine.  He moaned.

[flyercanuck]

6 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

 

He had soft hands.  He didn't whine.  He moaned.

 

I was talking about hockey rux.

[Buffalo Rick]

13 hours ago, ruxpin said:

 

For the same exact reason as the Flyers:   They finally put a goalie in there.   Binnington is playing lights out.

So he was in the AHL I assume?  Is he young?

[Buffalo Rick]

3 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

Is it just me or have we been hearing this for like 10 years?

The Sabres have a better record but the Blues are in a playoff spot right now.  The West for first time in ages is weaker than the East

[ruxpin]

39 minutes ago, Hockey Junkie said:

So he was in the AHL I assume?  Is he young?

Well, he's 25, so only 5 years younger than Ryan Miller. 

 

3rd pick for the Blues in 2011. Decent numbers in the AHL. But so far so good. 

[flyercanuck]

21 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

Well, he's 25, so only 5 years younger than Ryan Miller. 

 

 

 

 Those are "Rick" years when you're talking about Miller though, right? 

 The reality is Miller is old enough to be his dad.

[ruxpin]

3 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

 

 Those are "Rick" years when you're talking about Miller though, right? 

 The reality is Miller is old enough to be his dad.

 

Not true.  I was wrong about age.   If uniform number equals age, then Jordan is 50.

[flyercanuck]

34 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

 

Not true.  I was wrong about age.   If uniform number equals age, then Jordan is 50.

 

So THAT's where they get their numbers from...hmmm, never knew that. 

 

 I wonder if Carter Hart is the oldest rookie goalie ever at 79?

[Buffalo Rick]

1 hour ago, ruxpin said:

Well, he's 25, so only 5 years younger than Ryan Miller. 

 

3rd pick for the Blues in 2011. Decent numbers in the AHL. But so far so good. 

Ha  ha.   Well I am interested in what we are going to ultimately get for O'Reilly who is certainly now coming through as the player St Louis expected.  He is great. I still think the Sabres did the right thing.  They let him go to a team that is ready now to build for the short future.  The Sharks owe us too, don't forget that

[ruxpin]

22 minutes ago, Hockey Junkie said:

Ha  ha.   Well I am interested in what we are going to ultimately get for O'Reilly who is certainly now coming through as the player St Louis expected.  He is great. I still think the Sabres did the right thing.  They let him go to a team that is ready now to build for the short future.  The Sharks owe us too, don't forget that

I think the Sabres did the right thing.  The NHL players they got back fizzled, so that stinks, but we'll see what happens with the rest of it. 

[flyercanuck]

So Peyton Krebs, (who I'd say is a top 10 pick), partially tears his achilles tendon. I wonder if he drops to the Flyers pick...and do we take him? It's a partial, so there should be a full recovery, it'll just set him back a bit.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-nhl-draft-prospect-peyton-krebs-tears-achilles-tendon/