WordsOfWisdom Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I want politics OUT of pro sports...... I really do........ but pro sports keeps wanting to drag politics back in! It's incredible. I can't even have my "pro sports bubble/safe space" to get away from the world of politics for 3 f_cking hours because the league is going to force feed it to me. The NHL is putting special decals on the helmets/uniforms to honor O'Ree, who is apparently the first black NHL player, although nobody gives a sh_t who this guy is nor should they because we're going to STOP making things about race aren't we Gary Bettman? We're going to STOP trying to emphasize our differences with special days/months and racially-based decals aren't we Gary Bettman? Of course not! The NHL is putting decals on for all of "Black History Month" and to celebrate Martin Luther King day. Does the NHL realize half its fan base is Canadian and European? Do they realize nobody gives a flying F about Martin Luther King outside the United States of America? And that we care even less about "Black History Month"? Which month is White History Month by the way? I can't seem to find it on my calendar. Does it come after Asian History Month? I can't find that one either. As usual, special race-based privileges for one but not for all. It's why the US is so divided as a nation. Keep emphasizing the differences and they'll keep growing. So here's the deal: If the NHL is going to bring POLITICS into the game, then I won't be watching. For the entire month that the NHL puts up that decal/uniform patch, I'm tuning out. A clear message needs to be sent. I don't care what political cause it is or what ethnic group is being examined or praised. I want politics OUT of pro sports forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Ewing Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Maybe you could ask @hf101 to change your username to Archie Bunker? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, WordsOfWisdom said: I want politics OUT of pro sports...... I really do........ but pro sports keeps wanting to drag politics back in! It's incredible. I can't even have my "pro sports bubble/safe space" to get away from the world of politics for 3 f_cking hours because the league is going to force feed it to me. The NHL is putting special decals on the helmets/uniforms to honor O'Ree, who is apparently the first black NHL player, although nobody gives a sh_t who this guy is nor should they because we're going to STOP making things about race aren't we Gary Bettman? We're going to STOP trying to emphasize our differences with special days/months and racially-based decals aren't we Gary Bettman? Of course not! The NHL is putting decals on for all of "Black History Month" and to celebrate Martin Luther King day. Does the NHL realize half its fan base is Canadian and European? Do they realize nobody gives a flying F about Martin Luther King outside the United States of America? And that we care even less about "Black History Month"? Which month is White History Month by the way? I can't seem to find it on my calendar. Does it come after Asian History Month? I can't find that one either. As usual, special race-based privileges for one but not for all. It's why the US is so divided as a nation. Keep emphasizing the differences and they'll keep growing. So here's the deal: If the NHL is going to bring POLITICS into the game, then I won't be watching. For the entire month that the NHL puts up that decal/uniform patch, I'm tuning out. A clear message needs to be sent. I don't care what political cause it is or what ethnic group is being examined or praised. I want politics OUT of pro sports forever. Again, if we were having beers I'd tell you, maybe you want to keep this in your thought bubble. You seem angry-about what? honoring a pioneer? Like it or not, this is the world we are living in. I would like to introduce you to the concept of radical acceptance. It will help you to not feel as bad about things you can't control and thus not spread stupid ideas like what's quoted around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I am terribly disappointed of the Bruins' decision to retire O'Gee's #22. That honor should have been reserved to pay tribute to Shawn Thornton and his tremendous legacy as a Bruin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordsOfWisdom Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 hours ago, JR Ewing said: Maybe you could ask @hf101 to change your username to Archie Bunker? It's purely a matter of principle for me. I want my pro sports leagues to contain 100% pro sports and 0% politics. As soon as they start interjecting politics into the game then the NHL becomes a political organization and not a pro sports league. The game was perfectly fine when they played all 82 games without honoring anyone, without wearing pink jerseys for breast cancer month, or camo jerseys for the military, or whatever. I'm done with politics and sports. I don't care what group of people they're honoring or what the cause is..... don't do it during the game. I want them to leave the game alone. I tune in to watch hockey..... and hockey is all I should see. Nobody liked it when Don Cherry went off on political rants during Coach's Corner, and the NHL shouldn't be doing it either. My two cents as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordsOfWisdom Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 6 hours ago, mojo1917 said: Again, if we were having beers I'd tell you, maybe you want to keep this in your thought bubble. You seem angry-about what? honoring a pioneer? Let's back up right to the beginning: 1.) I had no idea who O'Ree is/was until www.nhl.com mentioned his name. I don't know when he played in the NHL, who he played for, what position he played, or how many points he scored.... and I honestly don't care. 2.) I'm not angry about anything (honest)... other than the slow, persistent, seepage of politics into professional sports. It's one thing to advertise for McDonalds. It's another thing to advertise for a political party, cause, or other agenda. When the league does it, it means that our money is going into that cause (whatever it is) and that's not right. What if you choose to support a different cause? What if you know someone dying of testicular cancer and you want to support THAT cause instead of breast cancer? What if you're asian and don't care about black history month? What if you're indian and want to see indian history month? Watching the game becomes an endorsement for various causes you may or may not agree with. I think Morgan Freeman said it best when he said he didn't want a black history month. (Neither do I because it's racist.) Why can't we just celebrate history and accomplishments regardless of skin color? Why do we have keep labelling everything by skin color? The truth is, nobody cares about black history month other than a handful of black people. Everyone else just rolls their eyes and lets out a "sigh", as if to say "here we go with this BS again". 3.) I don't consider someone to be a pioneer for being the first person of a particular skin color to do something. To me it's not an accomplishment. Winning is an accomplishment. Achieving success is an accomplishment. Being the first black, white, or asian person to do something is a product of circumstance and timing. It makes someone a historical FOOTNOTE, and that's what O'Ree should be... a trivia question/footnote but nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 @WordsOfWisdom Your lack of understanding of the politics of race is pretty significant. I'm not going to engage with you anymore about this. You don't get it. Enjoy your team's season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordsOfWisdom Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Villette/Lavaux said: I am terribly disappointed of the Bruins' decision to retire O'Gee's #22. Jackie Robinson had a long and successful career in MLB. Jackie Robinson was prevented from playing baseball sooner because blacks weren't allowed to play. There was no white/black barrier to break in the NHL however. O'Ree played ONE season and had 14 points. He was a NOBODY. It's an insult to Jackie Robinson to call O'Ree the Jackie Robinson of hockey. Standard Batting Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards 10 Yrs 1382 5804 4877 947 1518 273 54 137 734 197 76 740 291 .311 .409 .474 .883 132 2310 113 72 104 9 61 162 Game Avg. 162 680 572 111 178 32 6 16 86 23 9 87 34 .311 .409 .474 .883 132 271 13 8 12 7 1947 28 BRO NL 151 701 590 125 175 31 5 12 48 29 11 74 36 .297 .383 .427 .810 112 252 5 9 28 3 *3 MVP-5,RoY-1 1948 29 BRO NL 147 648 574 108 170 38 8 12 85 22 14 57 37 .296 .367 .453 .820 117 260 7 7 8 2 *43/5H MVP-15 1949 30 BRO NL 156 704 593 122 203 38 12 16 124 37 16 86 27 .342 .432 .528 .960 152 313 22 8 17 12 *4 AS,MVP-1 1950 31 BRO NL 144 613 518 99 170 39 4 14 81 12 5 80 24 .328 .423 .500 .923 139 259 11 5 10 14 *4/H AS,MVP-15 1951 32 BRO NL 153 642 548 106 185 33 7 19 88 25 8 79 27 .338 .429 .527 .957 154 289 10 9 6 6 *4/H AS,MVP-6 1952 33 BRO NL 149 636 510 104 157 17 3 19 75 24 7 106 40 .308 .440 .465 .904 149 237 16 14 6 8 *4/H AS,MVP-7 1953 34 BRO NL 136 574 484 109 159 34 7 12 95 17 4 74 30 .329 .425 .502 .927 138 243 12 7 9 5 75/43H6 AS,MVP-12 1954 35 BRO NL 124 465 386 62 120 22 4 15 59 7 3 63 20 .311 .413 .505 .918 135 195 13 7 5 4 4 75/H49 AS 1955 36 BRO NL 105 390 317 51 81 6 2 8 36 12 3 61 18 .256 .378 .363 .740 95 115 8 3 6 3 5 5H7/34 1956 37 BRO NL 117 431 357 61 98 15 2 10 43 12 5 60 32 .275 .382 .412 .793 107 147 9 3 9 2 2 54H/37 MVP-16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordsOfWisdom Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: Enjoy your team's season. I'll do my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hf101 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I think it is best not to think to much on this subject these days. I didn't know who O'ree was either, but now I do. I'd be ok with them removing all jerseys from the rafters. Glorify no one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordsOfWisdom Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, hf101 said: I think it is best not to think to much on this subject these days. I try not to overthink these topics either. 28 minutes ago, hf101 said: I didn't know who O'ree was either, but now I do. I didn't know who he was either and I regret knowing now that I know lol. I think Oleg Petrov had more points. Let's dedicate a patch to Oleg Petrov! Anyway, I said my peace on this topic. Good evening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 hours ago, WordsOfWisdom said: I try not to overthink Alas, you're not in danger, nor are the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 The Wild, though, introduced an interesting concept by retiring a number (#1) that nobody wore in franchise history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordsOfWisdom Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Podein25 said: Alas, you're not in danger, nor are the rest of us. So you disagree with Morgan Freeman on this issue then? Okay. My point is that I agree with his stance on this issue. Every word he says in that 1 minute video is what the world needs to hear right now. The difference between you and me is that you're willing to go along with the pandering that is currently going on whereas people like Morgan Freeman recognize that what you're doing to black people is the true racism. You're quite happy to keep black people in training wheels so they can never stand on their own. Every time they try to remove the training wheels you quickly rush over to put them back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordsOfWisdom Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Villette/Lavaux said: The Wild, though, introduced an interesting concept by retiring a number (#1) that nobody wore in franchise history. I guess if a franchise has no worthwhile accomplishments or track record of success, they can retire whatever numbers they want. For fans of teams with some actual history, the retired number actually means something to the player, the fans, and the organization. It's the highest honor a player can receive from their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, WordsOfWisdom said: So you disagree with Morgan Freeman on this issue then? Okay. My point is that I agree with his stance on this issue. Every word he says in that 1 minute video is what the world needs to hear right now. The difference between you and me is that you're willing to go along with the pandering that is currently going on whereas people like Morgan Freeman recognize that what you're doing to black people is the true racism. You're quite happy to keep black people in training wheels so they can never stand on their own. Every time they try to remove the training wheels you quickly rush over to put them back on. There you go trying to overthink things again. Best to stop. Don't you have spreadsheets to update? Focus on the stuff you are good at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordsOfWisdom Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Podein25 said: There you go trying to overthink things again. Best to stop. Don't you have spreadsheets to update? Focus on the stuff you are good at. I'm good at everything..... and I ALWAYS have spreadsheets to update!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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