Vanflyer Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 After watching Brodeur have a whale of a game at 40 years young, it raised the question of best goalie of all time in the modern era. Jacque Plante and Terry Sawerchuck would be included in an overall all time, but other than @blocker (:-)), I am not sure any of us were alive to witness their greatness. The modern era candidates are (with input from others):1) Ken Dryden2) Martin Brodeur3) Tony Esposito4) Bernie Parent5) Patrick Roy6) Vladislav TetriakKen Dryden: Martin Brodeur: Tony Espisito: Bernie Parent: Patrick Roy: Vadlislav Tetriak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VkvqP39e3E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I kept digging for vids (and sent HF101 a note to edit a couple). I came across this Ken Dryden vid. Not to sway voters any which way, but more to listen to a guy that after all his accolades and achievements, to me epitomizes what being a hockey player means. Listening to him reminds so much of being a kid and having dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I kept digging for vids (and sent HF101 a note to edit a couple).I came across this Ken Dryden vid. Not to sway voters any which way, but more to listen to a guy that after all his accolades and achievements, to me epitomizes what being a hockey player means. Listening to him reminds so much of being a kid and having dreams.http://youtu.be/wmLetcxwj6g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Longevity-wise (as in best ever) I'd say Brodeur. The guy has done it all and owns most goaltending records. On a shorter basis (goalie I'd take for a run or one game) I'd have a tough time picking between Patrick Roy and Bernie Parent. Actually,no I wouldn't....Bernie. Roy is too much of a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocker Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) I think the lists above are pretty good. But, I think that Jacques Plante was a better goalkeeper than Tony Esposito. When he was in the zone, Roy was unbeatable. He was (and still is), a self-absorbed ass, maybe that's part of why he could be so good. Eddie Giacomin was also a pretty good goalie.Somebody should write a book about the personalities of goalies. They're a rum bunch. Lorne Worsley was hilarious. It was hard to tell if it was intentional, or if it was Yogi Berra like. Edited May 26, 2012 by blocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Ken Dryden sucks donkey balls.He had the best D ever in front of him and a bunch of HoFers at forward too. Plus he just annoys me.He goes out of his way to slag Clarkie, the Flyers and Philadelphia in general in his lame, over-hyped book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 @flyercanuckRoy is a complete ass and perhaps the complete opposite of the sytle and grace that is bernie parent. Hard to choose who I would take on the ice as Roy was such an enormous competitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 @Podein25While Dryden did have a great team in front of him, he also played extremely well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 @blockerI kind of separate Tony from plante as post v. pre-expansion. Tony just started playing when Jacques career was winding down. Certainly if you are talking all time, you would have to list Plante and Sawerchuk into the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarsippius Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 @VanflyerI guess that little one is still keeping you up at night,eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 @sarsippius- Nah, now its the old lady's pissing and moaning that has me on edge. I just need a boys night out I think. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Tretiak was pretty damn good, but if I had to pick a guy to win one game to save the world from annihilation , it would come down to Roy and Broduer, though I think I'd pick Marty 9 out of 10 times, I'd listen to my assistant that had a hunch about PR.Broduer has been too good for too long , has been a work horse hs whole career, and always seem to make the save that changes a game,never shrinks from the moment. He is a bad ass, no doubt. # 30 from NJ gets my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 @mojo1917The thing with Brodeur is how much of his success can be attributed to the trap era style of play that the devils played for so long? That is not to discredit him in anyway, but Patrick Roy singlehandedly won not one, but three cups (and corresponding the Conn Smythe award to go along with each of those cup victories). For the one game, I take the Roy. Hate his personality and character, but he is money when it comes to big games and can win a game all by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 @Vanflyer So could Bernie, and he did. He also beat the best team in the league with the best player ever on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 @flyercanuck- Good points on Bernie. I unfortunately did not get to witness him. My inauguration to the Flyers was 1979. The one thing I would ponder in this hypothetical is the speed of the game, strength of the players and power / force of the shots (not just slap shots). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terp Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Roy is an assh*le. With that out of the way, 4 Cups, 3 Conn Smythe Trophies, all time playoff win leader. Marty is a nicer guy (unless you ask his ex wife) and among the all time greats, but Roy has the hardware and the records to be called the best of his era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 @Vanflyer Well of course goalies today face harder shots from more highly skilled players. But the goalies are also bigger, more athletic and wear way more equipment. It's not as hard for todays goalie to "give you nothing to shoot at" since he's bigger AND wearing twice as much padding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 @VanflyerWell of course goalies today face harder shots from more highly skilled players. But the goalies are also bigger, more athletic and wear way more equipment. It's not as hard for todays goalie to "give you nothing to shoot at" since he's bigger AND wearing twice as much padding.Good points. It always makes me chuckle a bit to see those 70's and even 80's games as compared to now- not only size of player, but equipment (particularly for goalies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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