Flyingswede Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Please no! Homer please! try to build a whole team instead of chasing cap hit players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 @Phillygrump Exactly Grumpster, just because we have made previously stupid long term deals, should not preclude us from acquiring a cornerstone piece. The market demands guys like Weber get big time money for a long term for a reason.....they can alter the course of your season. Wow would it be fun to watch this guy bashing heads in the O&B. We deserve this type of mayhem...LOL! The other thing...I believe Welly and Harry Z can step up big time. Wellwood would have scored 16 goals last year if you project his numbers over an 82 game season. All things you have to factor in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Playing most of the season, Wellwood could get 20 goals if he works on those stone hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 @doom88 Welly has better hands than what we have seen thus far. He's really good at roofing it from in close. Think it's just a matter of getting more comfortable. He's gonna get a boatload of break aways this year. Not saying he will be a scoring star, but he will chip in with adequate offense....it will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarsippius Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Weber and Nash are both going to sold to the highest bidder, and by that I mean to the team overpays the most by offering the stupidest package. With 8 teams in a bidding war for Nash, and I would have to imagine just as many IF Weber is truly being shopped, the winning bid will be too much. How many times are we going to rip the team up and start over? In fact, didn't we just do it last summer???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Oh come on Sars... You don't want to rip the team up again ??? We ONLY had a 100+ point season while playing some 10 rookies and massive injuries... That calls for a full makeover while mortgaging our future and commiting cap suicide.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 @idahophilly I understand what you're saying Idaho...really, I do. Here is my problem....I don't think the Flyers defense is good enough to win the cup as it stands right now. With Bryz in the picture, we need our d to be outstanding, not just above average (which it was not in the playoffs). We badly need a replacement for Pronger. Weber is the next best thing. This makes sense from my perspective. A lot to give up, cap hit extroidinarie...but it gives us a nice 5-6 year realistic window to get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 @doom88 Welly has better hands than what we have seen thus far. He's really good at roofing it from in close. Think it's just a matter of getting more comfortable. He's gonna get a boatload of break aways this year. Not saying he will be a scoring star, but he will chip in with adequate offense....it will come.Glad to hear it, because I loved all the breakaway chances he generated, until seemingly none went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygrump Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 @Phillygrump Exactly Grumpster, just because we have made previously stupid long term deals, should not preclude us from acquiring a cornerstone piece. The market demands guys like Weber get big time money for a long term for a reason.....they can alter the course of your season. Wow would it be fun to watch this guy bashing heads in the O&B. We deserve this type of mayhem...LOL! The other thing...I believe Welly and Harry Z can step up big time. Wellwood would have scored 16 goals last year if you project his numbers over an 82 game season. All things you have to factor in.I agree and I think its definitely a sacrifice to make to give up guys like Voracek and JVR, but those guys could turn out to be dime a dozen guys (no disrespect to Jake, I really like his play) and Weber is not. Voraceks and JVRs seem to come and go in this league, but Webers are more rare and also not a position that Philadelphia seems to develop well from within. I'd rather see the Flyers pick up Weber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quigster Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 The problem I see with acquisition of Suter or Webber neither one has won a cup or come close. LA did it without them,so its apparently doable with a bunch of old Flyers. Why not a couple more Grossmanns? The Flyer's problem isn't scoring goals,its being scored against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygrump Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 @Giroux never won a cup either, should we get rid of him? There's a first time for everything. Just because Weber hasn't won a cup yet doesn't mean he can't. He's still young. If you narrow your addition targets down to only cup winners you will be missing out on a lot of good players. LA has Doughty by the way. He's not a run of the mill defensive talent either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzFlyer Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Playing most of the season, Wellwood could get 20 goals if he works on those stone hands.So you are saying he would outscore Jagr? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygrump Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 So you are saying he would outscore Jagr?I like the idea of starting a "Jagr line" similar to the "Mendoza line" in baseball.Even though years ago many many players were scoring well below the Jagr line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzFlyer Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) I like the idea of starting a "Jagr line" similar to the "Mendoza line" in baseball.The Jagr line which started with one Andreas Nodl in the year 2011! Edited June 18, 2012 by OzFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 So you are saying he would outscore Jagr?hahahahahah lololololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam1986 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Dude- WTF did you say? Stupid is as stupid does!Fixed it for you and canoli hope it's better for you two!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 @Bakanekimiwaawesome, you show back up in time to catch that, of all things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 So you are saying he would outscore Jagr?I'm not going there, no way. Aziz can keep that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 No trade! Nash reminds me of Ryan Smyth nice player but won't bring cup! If we trade two young fowards then who will pick up scoring? I just think other D-men might be had Klein from NASH,Vlasic from SJ or Giordano from Cal. Look there before overpaying. Carkner like him too need muscle and someone who can play and fight. Hows that VanflyerLegible and thanks for the effort. Your first message was kind of a garbled rant with about 10 different points spewed forth.If English your primary language? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 @Bakanekimiwaawesome, you show back up in time to catch that, of all things.i know... lol. i've been pretty busy last few months, but i just happened to catch up on that one. go figure. oh well... new season, i'll have to change my sig soon. maybe you could make another prediction !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 @Bakanekimiwaha, well, i'm probably a lock to say something stupid at some point. give me a few months, i'll see what i can come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Is English your primary language?If I had a nickel for every time I've asked that question on this or the other board.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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