OccamsRazor Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 @Polaris922 He's (hopefully) not as bad as he's looked. We could pick just about anyone on Philly this year north of the goalies and say the same thing. But as you know, I never liked the signing.I would have prefered them to have traded for Shattenkirk before tbe Blues resigned him he can do everything Streit is suppose to do but better!!! But oh well missed the boat on that one....I think Shatty even signed for less than Streit which was a helluva deal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Timonen has six SH points in the past five seasons. Streit has two Bastard. Edited December 12, 2013 by JackStraw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 @OccamsRazor Well NOT giving up a roster player is one plus I can come up with for signing Streit. Another plus is.........I give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) @JackStrawI won't argue for a moment Timonen is the better defensive player. @radoranBreaking those numbers down still leaves Streit's at over double Timonen's goals per game production even strength. To me that's "far" better production. I'll grant you that he only has an edge in assists, but you and I define production quite differently. In a league where the top goal scoring defenseman is hitting 19, 3 or 4 a year is significant to me. Edited December 12, 2013 by Polaris922 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 @Polaris922 Well, in the past two seasons, it's actually triple (seven to two) even strength goals. I don't know that we define production differently as much as have a quibbling disagreement about where Streit is in his development. I don't see Streit as the 07-08 or 08-09 player, I see him as the 12-13 and 13-14 player. And I think that's the player that the Flyers have for the next three seasons on a 35+ contract with a higher cap hit than Chris Pronger's. Even then, in the last full season Streit had seven total goals (3 PP) which ties him with Andrej Meszaros in the goal department. And Meszaros had one fewer PPG and played 20 fewer games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 @Polaris922Well, in the past two seasons, it's actually triple (seven to two) even strength goals.I don't know that we define production differently as much as have a quibbling disagreement about where Streit is in his development.I don't see Streit as the 07-08 or 08-09 player, I see him as the 12-13 and 13-14 player. And I think that's the player that the Flyers have for the next three seasons on a 35+ contract with a higher cap hit than Chris Pronger's.Even then, in the last full season Streit had seven total goals (3 PP) which ties him with Andrej Meszaros in the goal department. And Meszaros had one fewer PPG and played 20 fewer games.The question remains what's wrong with him in Philly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The question remains what's wrong with him in Philly? Players get older, they don't have the same skillset. Happens. Happening to Timonen right now. I hope that Streit turns it around and gets back to what he was. I'm not entirely sanguine about the prospect, however... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The question remains what's wrong with him in Philly? The general offensive struggles of the team have no doubt been part of it. Nobody thought he was Bobby Orr and would just come in and carry the team on his back. And Berube has stressed team defense which is probably slowing things down offensively as well. And he's getting older. I think his production will pick up eventually, along with the rest of the team. Then again, maybe I'm just an incurable optimist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 As for the older part hrs not THAT old yet, and his production is half of what it should be. Something's amiss... Maybe it's that the whole team is off right now. I just can't believe Streit's ability disappeared over one summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 As for the older part hrs not THAT old yet, and his production is half of what it should be. Something's amiss... Maybe it's that the whole team is off right now. I just can't believe Streit's ability disappeared over one summer. There's clearly more than just the "one summer" aspect - and he's not "as bad" as the team has been. But he's a year and a half younger than Timonen and Timonen isn't the guy who had the fourth highest point total among defenseman last year. After just one summer. Streit's better than he's played this season, but IMO he's not going to be as good as he was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 There's clearly more than just the "one summer" aspect - and he's not "as bad" as the team has been. But he's a year and a half younger than Timonen and Timonen isn't the guy who had the fourth highest point total among defenseman last year. After just one summer. Streit's better than he's played this season, but IMO he's not going to be as good as he was. Who is after 35? Which is the main reason you don't sign guys this age to longterm contracts....again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Who is after 35 Barry Bonds Baby , Alex Rodriguez... let's get that Striet fella on some "clear & cream" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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