Flyers Off-Season Game Plan

[AJgoal]

 

[OccamsRazor]

2 hours ago, AJgoal said:

 

 

 

Good to see this done. I know something more than likely will get done with Schenn no way he just plays for his 2.25 mill tender.

[OccamsRazor]

HHHHhhhhhhhhhmmmmm a list of the top 40....

 

THE TOP 40 FREE AGENTS

 

RK	PLAYER	TEAM	POS	AGE	GP	G	PTS	15-16
1	Steven Stamkos	TBL	C	26	77	36	64	$7.5 M
2	Milan Lucic	LAK	LW	28	81	20	55	$6 M
3	Kyle Okposo	NYI	RW	28	79	22	64	$2.8 M
4	Loui Eriksson	Bos	LW	30	82	30	63	$4.25 M
5	Andrew Ladd	CHI	LW	30	78	25	46	$4.4 M
6	Jimmy Vesey	Harvard	LW	23	33	24	46	-
7	Mikkel Boedker	Col	RW	26	80	17	51	$3.75 M
8	David Backes	StL	C	32	79	21	45	$4.5 M
9	Frans Nielsen	NYI	C	32	81	20	52	$2.75 M
10	Jason Demers	Dal	RD	28	62	7	23	$3.4 M
11	Troy Brouwer	StL	RW	30	82	18	39	$3.66 M
12	Brian Campbell	Fla	LD	37	82	6	31	$7.14 M
13	David Perron	Ana	LW	28	71	12	36	$3.81 M
14	Kris Russell	Dal	LD	29	62	4	19	$2.6 M
15	Jamie McGinn	Ana	LW	27	84	22	39	$2.95 M
16	Dan Hamhuis	Van	LD	33	58	3	13	$4.5 M
17	Lee Stempniak	Bos	RW	33	82	19	51	$850 K
18	James Reimer	SJS	G	28	40	2.31	.922	$2.3 M
19	Eric Staal	NYR	C	31	83	13	39	$8.25 M
20	Darren Helm	Det	RW	29	77	13	26	$2.13 M
21	Shane Doan	Ari	RW	39	72	28	47	$5.3 M
22	Matt Martin	NYI	LW	27	80	10	19	$1 M
23	Jiri Hudler	Fla	RW	32	72	16	46	$4 M
24	Luke Schenn	LAK	RD	26	72	4	16	$3.6 M
25	Justin Schultz	Pit	RD	25	63	4	18	$3.9 M
26	Jason Chimera	Wsh	LW	37	82	20	40	$2 M
27	Radim Vrbata	Van	RW	35	63	13	27	$5 M
28	Teddy Purcell	Fla	RW	30	76	14	43	$4.5 M
29	Ben Lovejoy	Pit	RD	32	66	4	10	$1.1 M
30	Roman Polak	SJS	RD	30	79	1	16	$2.75 M
31	Kris Versteeg	LAK	RW	30	77	15	38	$4.4 M
32	Thomas Vanek	Min	LW	32	74	18	41	$6.5 M
33	Dale Weise	Chi	RW	27	71	14	27	$1.03 M
34	P.A. Parenteau	Tor	LW	33	77	20	41	$1.33 M
35	Shawn Matthias	Col	LW	28	71	12	28	$2.3 M
36	Sam Gagner	Phi	C	26	53	8	16	$4.8 M
37	Chad Johnson	Buf	G	30	45	2.36	.920	$1.3 M
38	David Schlemko	NJD	LD	29	67	6	19	$625K
39	Jared Cowen	Tor	LD	25	37	0	4	$3.1 M
40	Jhonas Enroth	LAK	G	28	16	2.17	.922	$1.25 M

 

 

[AJgoal]

Interesting quote by Meltzer today:

 

"As for the likes of Ivan Provorov and Travis Konecny, two players whom the Flyers believe will make NHL impacts in the future, the organization is NOT planning as if roster spots need to be "held" for either or both on opening night. They are both going to have to have standout training camps to convince general manager Ron Hextall -- who is also not a big fan of the "nine-game trial" method -- they are ready now for the NHL. Being "too good for the CHL" (which is hard to deny at this point, especially for Provorov) is not necessarily the same thing as NHL-ready.

For those fans banking on Provorov as a "shoo-in" for the NHL this season and Konecny as a "likely" NHL roster player this season, consider yourself forewarned: it's not a guarantee in any way, shape or form. If there is any doubt, the Flyers are going to err on the side of caution and send them back to their junior teams. It won't be popular if that happens, but it should not be surprising if one is paying attention."

[flyercanuck]

29 minutes ago, AJgoal said:

Interesting quote by Meltzer today:

 

"As for the likes of Ivan Provorov and Travis Konecny, two players whom the Flyers believe will make NHL impacts in the future, the organization is NOT planning as if roster spots need to be "held" for either or both on opening night. They are both going to have to have standout training camps to convince general manager Ron Hextall -- who is also not a big fan of the "nine-game trial" method -- they are ready now for the NHL. Being "too good for the CHL" (which is hard to deny at this point, especially for Provorov) is not necessarily the same thing as NHL-ready.

For those fans banking on Provorov as a "shoo-in" for the NHL this season and Konecny as a "likely" NHL roster player this season, consider yourself forewarned: it's not a guarantee in any way, shape or form. If there is any doubt, the Flyers are going to err on the side of caution and send them back to their junior teams. It won't be popular if that happens, but it should not be surprising if one is paying attention."

And that's the way it should be. 

[intheslot]

When does training Camp open ..?

 

[AJgoal]

First pre-season game is September 26, so somewhere around the 19th-21st I would think

[OccamsRazor]

3 hours ago, AJgoal said:

Interesting quote by Meltzer today:

 

"As for the likes of Ivan Provorov and Travis Konecny, two players whom the Flyers believe will make NHL impacts in the future, the organization is NOT planning as if roster spots need to be "held" for either or both on opening night. They are both going to have to have standout training camps to convince general manager Ron Hextall -- who is also not a big fan of the "nine-game trial" method -- they are ready now for the NHL. Being "too good for the CHL" (which is hard to deny at this point, especially for Provorov) is not necessarily the same thing as NHL-ready.

For those fans banking on Provorov as a "shoo-in" for the NHL this season and Konecny as a "likely" NHL roster player this season, consider yourself forewarned: it's not a guarantee in any way, shape or form. If there is any doubt, the Flyers are going to err on the side of caution and send them back to their junior teams. It won't be popular if that happens, but it should not be surprising if one is paying attention."

 

No worries Provorov will be a Flyer this year. Consider yourself forewarned....that is all carry on.

[OccamsRazor]

As we speak the Flyer blueline consist of as follows:

 

Ghost

Del Zotto

Streit

Gudas

Schultz

Manning (not signed yet)

Mcdud

 

So looking at that lineup you can honestly say/think Provorov can't beat out at least half of those guys above??? I say hands down right now he is better than half of them.

 

So welcome aboard Ivan!!!

[flyercanuck]

@OccamsRazor

 

I'm not saying he will or won't....same with Konecny...I just love the fact that Hextall is making these guys earn it!

[OccamsRazor]

37 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

@OccamsRazor

 

I'm not saying he will or won't....same with Konecny...I just love the fact that Hextall is making these guys earn it!

 

 

Well he won't be able to beat this guy out...

 

[OccamsRazor]

So as of right now...

 

Brayden Schenn - Claude Giroux - Jake Voracek

Michael Raffl -  Sean Couturier - Wayne Simmonds

Matt Read - Scott Laughton - Dale Weise

Pierre-Edouard Bellemare - Boyd Gordon - Nick Cousins

Chris Vandevelde - Jordan Weal

 

Shayne Gostisbehere - Michael Del Zotto

Ivan Provorov - Radko Gudas

Nick Schultz - Brandon Manning

Andrew Macdonald - Mark Streit (i think he'll be traded before season starts)

 

Steve Mason

Michal Neuvirth

 

As of July 1st it's what we are looking at of course there should/could be some line juggling...but mostly this is it. 

 

 

 

[Claude Monet]

Cousins has passed Laughton for 3c IMO. He was one of the better forwards down the stretch. 

 

Leier is going to push Read big time for that LW. Spot. 

[Off the Pipe]

I'm hoping Streit gets moved soon to a team that needs to make the cap floor, like Yotes hopefully, they have slots to fill on D.

 

As much as I hate MacD I felt he did contribute down the stretch and in playoffs and if he comes in with same attitude and Hakstol's coaching, he should be a better fit than Manning in the 3rd pairing.

 

I'm really enjoying what Hakstol has done for these young guys, especially Schenn, looks like Schenn may be our best and one of the better power forward LW in the game's future. 

[AlaskaFlyerFan]

7 hours ago, Off the Pipe said:

I'm hoping Streit gets moved soon to a team that needs to make the cap floor, like Yotes hopefully, they have slots to fill on D.

 

As much as I hate MacD I felt he did contribute down the stretch and in playoffs and if he comes in with same attitude and Hakstol's coaching, he should be a better fit than Manning in the 3rd pairing.

 

I'm really enjoying what Hakstol has done for these young guys, especially Schenn, looks like Schenn may be our best and one of the better power forward LW in the game's future. 

 

@Off the Pipe, 

 

Welcome!  I'm not sure anyone would take Streit right now.  Maybe at the trade deadline.

[OccamsRazor]

Let’s take a moment to appreciate the beauty that was Ryan White

http://sonsofpenn.com/flyers/ryan-white-gif-flyers/

 

[OccamsRazor]

 

 

WTF???

[FD19372]

5 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

WTF???

Bye bye Brayden, I guess. You can probably get one for 50% off at Sports Authority. They're going out of business.

[OccamsRazor]

And this is all in good fun. Doesn't mean anything. I expect him to be signed soon. Although all these bloated contracts lately ain't helping things........

[FD19372]

7 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

And this is all in good fun. Doesn't mean anything. I expect him to be signed soon. Although all these bloated contracts lately ain't helping things........

Well, it's right around now that the organ-eye-zation makes one head scratching trade during the summer. I know Hextall's running the show now, but you never know. Holmgren is still hangin around.

[Off the Pipe]

Looks like Evander Kane may be on the block in Buffalo, think Hexy/Hak would take a chance on him if they can move Streit's contract to the Sabres? I know Hexy and Hak are all about character guys, and Kane has been having off ice issues, but he is still young enough and maybe just had the crap scared out of him with this latest incident(which he is not found guilty of thus far).

 

He would slot nicely on the LW of G n Jake, or benefit from Cooter's defensive style so he can be let loose.

[Samifan]

No thank you!

 

If Kane can't keep his nose clean off the ice while living in Buffalo, think about all the trouble he will get into partying in Philly. Kane is a me, me, me guy. The flyers don't need a person with that kind of mentality and character in their room.

[flyercanuck]

6 hours ago, Off the Pipe said:

Looks like Evander Kane may be on the block in Buffalo, think Hexy/Hak would take a chance on him if they can move Streit's contract to the Sabres? I know Hexy and Hak are all about character guys, and Kane has been having off ice issues, but he is still young enough and maybe just had the crap scared out of him with this latest incident(which he is not found guilty of thus far).

 

He would slot nicely on the LW of G n Jake, or benefit from Cooter's defensive style so he can be let loose.

 

I wanted nothing to do with this jerk when he was in Winnipeg. You'd think having your teammates turn on you would be the kick in the arse he needed. He just doesn't get it. N.O.

[briere48]

is jeff skinner on the block? hextall has to do something now because giroux and jake are not getting any younger, i mean what i dont get is, if hexy is not making win now moves, then what is the sense of keeping giroux and voraeck? because they are not young like toews and kane, hextall is wasting their talent by waiting three more  years and by the time the young dmen are good, giroux and voraeck are going to be close to 30 and have no clue of what they are going to be.

 

it's not how you rebuild, you rebuild your forwards by getting younger with your young dman. i understand everyone likes hextall's plan but do you not realise giroux and voreack are not young players?

 

[AJgoal]

Dear god no on E. Kane.

 

I see a lot of talk about moving Streit. I think it's terribly unlikely before the deadline. Most contenders can't afford his cap hit, and while his play got better late in the season, he didn't show a lot after his surgery. He also has a no trade clause - who thinks he's going to allow himself to go to a cap floor team during what's likely to be his final season?  Anything is possible, but moving him now without sweetening the deal is going to be pretty tough.