@bunnyman They do hurt, the chest piece is a modified one piece chest protector that I cut the arms off of and I just use the torso piece now. The arms guards are a pair of SA95 Cooper arm guards. Yeah, they are pretty thin but I'm 21 and I can take it. The bruises are just temporary, I get hit in a bare spot just above my arm pit the other day, didn't feel good and I had a bruise there and last night I got hit there again so not the greatest feeling but I'm fine with it. The pads don't weigh too much, if you get holes in the pads that's where they tend to get water logged. I'd say it's more casual than anything. Varying skill levels with each player that shows up. Some are wicked good, others are average, and some are novice. As for me I'd say I'm intermediate. Nope, there's this wonderful site called eBay. Very useful but very expensive lol. I got 4 sets of pads including those. Just in case one goes to hell.