B21 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 A once pround franchise struggling at the gate wins the lottery and the right to draft not only the best D prospect in years but a kid who learned the game in Denver (i.e. - gate receipts) and not one mention of the fix being in?You guys is slippin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Hey B21,I don't. But read the shoutbox history, my friend. Jessica Fletcher and her crew were out in force last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Didn't Seth Jones grow up in Dallas? The lottery wasn't rigged...the end of the season was, when every team tanked against the Flyers, insuring they won, and lessened their draft position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I'm thinking Colorado and TB have been tanking lately. Seriously, though, Florida and TB are not deserving of guys like MacKinnon and Drouin. Let's end the charade and get out of those markets.Shut down Phoenix, Florida, TB, NYI, Columbus, and Nashville. Man, how much more awesome would the league be without those franchises? The teams would be stronger, the product would be better.All that to say, screw you Colorado! I guess they must have gotten some advice from the Pens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Didn't Seth Jones grow up in Dallas? The lottery wasn't rigged...the end of the season was, when every team tanked against the Flyers, insuring they won, and lessened their draft position. Looks like he moved around a few times but discovered hockey at age 5 in Denver when his dad was with the Nuggets and lived there for 7 years. Works for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Looks like he moved around a few times but discovered hockey at age 5 in Denver when his dad was with the Nuggets and lived there for 7 years. Works for me! I'll take your word for it, I thought he discovered hockey while in Dallas, after his dad approached Mike Modano....regardless, the NHL has once again shafted the Flyers. I'm not sure how, but I'm sure they did... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Hey B21,I don't. But read the shoutbox history, my friend. Jessica Fletcher and her crew were out in force last night.Ha! I agree...just poking the tiger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 @B21 I'd like to know why they can't just draw the g'damned picks in front of everyone and put the idea to rest. The way they did it is just so...Bettman! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 @B21I'd like to know why they can't just draw the g'damned picks in front of everyone and put the idea to rest. The way they did it is just so...Bettman!Beats me but there is no way in He-Double-L that these things aren't on the up and up. To many opposing interests. If there was even hint of impropriety about Colorado winning, you don't think Florida would be screaming bloody murder? A rigged draft could ruin the NHL. At a minimum you'd be looking at a huge hit in creditbility, ratings, attendance, etc (i.e. - owners' pockets). I don't think 29 owners would want to risk that just to make sure the Avs can draft a kid who learned his hockey in Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDI-Flyer Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 @B21I'd like to know why they can't just draw the g'damned picks in front of everyone and put the idea to rest. The way they did it is just so...Bettman!Yep, totally agree. Not sure exactly what it is like in the states but here in Europe every lottery drawing that I can think of is done live on TV. Not because they need to , it just ensures that everyone believes it is random. The problem is when they start to do these things behind closed doors it looks improper even when it isn't. All they needed was large bowl with an appropriate number of balls in it, shouldn't be too difficult to achieve really! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Beats me but there is no way in He-Double-L that these things aren't on the up and up. To many opposing interests. If there was even hint of impropriety about Colorado winning, you don't think Florida would be screaming bloody murder? A rigged draft could ruin the NHL. At a minimum you'd be looking at a huge hit in creditbility, ratings, attendance, etc (i.e. - owners' pockets). I don't think 29 owners would want to risk that just to make sure the Avs can draft a kid who learned his hockey in Denver.I completely agree with this. I do agree, also, with the idea they should just do the drawing in public. It wouldn't be all that difficult and I don't understand what would be the risk in doing so. Clearly, you're right that the league would be insane to try to pull a fast one. But it seems equally insane to allow for the almost required murmuring of impropriety caused by not doing it publicly.I'm not having a particularly creative moment, so can anyone think of a downside/risk of drawing publicly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Yep, totally agree. Not sure exactly what it is like in the states but here in Europe every lottery drawing that I can think of is done live on TV. Not because they need to , it just ensures that everyone believes it is random. The problem is when they start to do these things behind closed doors it looks improper even when it isn't. All they needed was large bowl with an appropriate number of balls in it, shouldn't be too difficult to achieve really!What they need to do is spin a really big wheel, "Price Is Right" style, with the appropriate number of slots for each team participating. This way there could be some television drama to go along with it. They could play special music like "Bring In the Clowns" or "The Rodeo Song" or something. Fun for the whole family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDI-Flyer Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 "Bring In the Clowns"Enter Bettman and Daly Stage Left... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 What they need to do is spin a really big wheel, "Price Is Right" style, with the appropriate number of slots for each team participating. This way there could be some television drama to go along with it. They could play special music like "Bring In the Clowns" or "The Rodeo Song" or something. Fun for the whole family. That's how they did the Gilbert Perreault lottery when Buffalo and Vancouver joined the league.A crown and anchor wheel with Sabres or Canucks at every other spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I completely agree with this. I do agree, also, with the idea they should just do the drawing in public. It wouldn't be all that difficult and I don't understand what would be the risk in doing so. Clearly, you're right that the league would be insane to try to pull a fast one. But it seems equally insane to allow for the almost required murmuring of impropriety caused by not doing it publicly.I'm not having a particularly creative moment, so can anyone think of a downside/risk of drawing publicly?Downside....hmmm.Machine breaks?A number is drawn and the winning GM stands up and yells "Bingo!" (That would be kinda cool actually.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 What they need to do is spin a really big wheel, "Price Is Right" style, with the appropriate number of slots for each team participating. This way there could be some television drama to go along with it. They could play special music like "Bring In the Clowns" or "The Rodeo Song" or something. Fun for the whole family.What about a "Press Your Luck" system?"No whammys! No whammys! Seth Jones! Seth Jones! No whammys! STOP!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Lets face it... Anything can be rigged. No matter what they do someone will insist it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 What about a "Press Your Luck" system?"No whammys! No whammys! Seth Jones! Seth Jones! No whammys! STOP!"LMAO. I actually like this idea best. Make it so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Lets face it... Anything can be rigged. No matter what they do someone will insist it is.Oh, so you heard about my parking ticket in Pittsburgh then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Oh, so you heard about my parking ticket in Pittsburgh then.Heard about it??! I WROTE it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 @Polaris922It was the Flyers plate on the front of my car wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'll take your word for it, I thought he discovered hockey while in Dallas, after his dad approached Mike Modano....regardless, the NHL has once again shafted the Flyers. I'm not sure how, but I'm sure they did... Born in Arrlington (Dallas), moved to Denver. His dad approached Joe Sakic for advice. Then he moved back to Dallas area at age 12.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Jones_(ice_hockey) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Bring in the clowns or Sabre danceEnter Bettman and Daly Stage Left...Brilliant!!!! Edited May 1, 2013 by flyerrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 @Polaris922It was the Flyers plate on the front of my car wasn't it?That and the GPS tracker that may or may not be on it telling me you were close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Born in Arrlington (Dallas), moved to Denver. His dad approached Joe Sakic for advice. Then he moved back to Dallas area at age 12.http://en.wikipedia....nes_(ice_hockey)See...being lazy has it's advantages...thanks for doing the leg work Alaska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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