jammer2 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I thought this article deserved it's own thread. The author is Kurt R. from the Broad Street board. He did some nice quality research here and makes some excellent points. Enjoy..... http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2013/8/2/4580878/flyers-puck-moving-defensemen-timonen-streit-gustafsson-diagram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 @jammer2 It's amazing how much sports gets dissected nowadays. That's some pretty specific data. One thing I'll say is I like how much Streit and Gustaffson spread their game around when it comes to points, whereas Kimmo seems to get most of his parked along the boards at the blueline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) I am excited to see Gus get a full time position this year and would think having Streit around is going to really help Gus' development. Edited August 12, 2013 by murraycraven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I thought Kurtis Foster was pretty F'ing offensive last year.oh, that 's not what this was about, sorry carry on ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted August 12, 2013 Author Share Posted August 12, 2013 @jammer2It's amazing how much sports gets dissected nowadays. That's some pretty specific data. One thing I'll say is I like how much Streit and Gustaffson spread their game around when it comes to points, whereas Kimmo seems to get most of his parked along the boards at the blueline. Yeah, that's kinda why I posted it, just thought the different perspectives would be good to keep in the memory bank for later use. It is wild how they break down the different data, I would have never been exposed to data like that when I was younger, any posting on the topic would have to come from pure memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAXflyer Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I read that article the day it was posted, and wanted to post it on here in a thread. I was so awestruck by the amount of time he must have spent compiling the data that I could not think straight afterwards. Hence, no post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 FINALLY... somebody put the stats together to support my age old argument that TImonen isn't worth much without the power play anymore. NINE even strength points all year. It also bolsters my not liking that you guys got Streit! LOL He's your offensive threat from the blue line.. the guy who will carry the puck up and do his damage. He did pretty well with the Islanders... I would imagine with your more offensive minded forwards he'll be in the top ten defensemen easily for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Timonen plays a defense-first game Polaris... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Monet Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 it is time for Gustafsson to step it up. I would like to see him get quality minutes. He basically is the young link for a few years in this regard till this years draft class comes around. and Ghost as well but he seems like a serious wild card. Rafalski or bust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 @ Polaris...It is nothing more than what Doom posted. Timmo is a "defense first" defenseman, and to your point, I dont think he would rack up points if not on the power play. It is simply not a huge part of his game. Conversely, you have LeTang who is offense first and then is an average at best defensive defenseman... As a fan I could care less but I would rather Timmo score on the PP and shut down the top line of opposing Teams - which is pretty much what has does and has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 @doom88@murraycravenThen all the worse for your offense with no puck moving defenseman to speak of till now. Timonen has been slow the past two years. You guys should be excited to see how your transition game breaks out now with Streit in the lineup. He's your only defenseman I'm concerned about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Believe me... I am excited for Streit and his offensive ability which will certainly help our transition game and power play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I am also more than happy to FINALLY have a serious shot from the point! Something that has been missing since Pronger went down... I think Hartnell and Simmonds are going to get a lot of garbage goals in front... Streit was a very good pickup. Even if he is on the older side I still really like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I am also more than happy to FINALLY have a serious shot from the point! Something that has been missing since Pronger went down... I think Hartnell and Simmonds are going to get a lot of garbage goals in front... Streit was a very good pickup. Even if he is on the older side I still really like it... I just hope you still like it 4 years from now when him and VLC are taking up 10 million in capspace. It's my biggest problem with Homer...it's like he never looks down the road, he only sees where he is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 @FC... agree completely. both terms are too long. I will be complaining in three years about both of them b/c of the contract terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 I just hope you still like it 4 years from now when him and VLC are taking up 10 million in capspace. It's my biggest problem with Homer...it's like he never looks down the road, he only sees where he is right now. Well, let's face it, there is a VERY good chance Homer will not be GM at the end of those deals. It will be somebody else's problem. Homer wants the glory of winning it all now, and he knows if he does not, he won't have to deal with the consequences. Ed won't stop him, cause he's gonna die eventually, and he also is in win now mode. The good news, our new GM will have a built in excuse as to why he can't compete.....AND the cycle continues!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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