Biggest dissapointment for your team

[yave1964]

  Who has been the biggest disappointment for your team this year? For the Wings I want to say Howard but truth be told Stephen Weiss has been the biggest flop. Even pre injury he was just plain bad.

 

  Here is my list by team:

 

Anaheim:    Saka Koivu. 25 points, showing his age

Boston: Loui Eriksson only 8 goals, concussion issues

Buffalo Mikhail Grigorenko  only 2 goals in 18 games, looks lost

Calgary: Sven Baertchi  only 2 goals in 26 games, quickly becoming a suspect instead of a prospect

Carolina Cam Ward. 9-16 record, injury problems losing job to Khudobin

Chicago: Michael Handzus 4 goals after being a solid contributor in last seasons post season run

Colorado: P.A. Parenteau slow start, finally got going and then got hurt, out for regular season.

Columbus Nathan Horton After a fast start returning from surgery has only 5 goals in 30 games

Dallas:  Ray Whitney 7 goals in 63 games. Stick a fork in him

Detroit See comment about about Stephen Weiss

Edmonton Nail Yakupov The biggest disappointment in the game this year. Number one pick, on the block.

Florida  Huberdeau 8 goals in 66 games

Los Angeles Mike Richards 3 goals in his last 40 games

Minnesota Danny Heatley 12 goals in 71 games. Nothing left in the tank

Montreal Danny Briere 12 goals playing 4th line minutes

Nashville Pekka Rinne only 17 games due to injury

New Jersey Danius Zubrus only 7 points in last 46 games

Islanders: Garth Snow. Enough said

Rangers: Henrik Lundquist. Good year but not a season fit for a king

Ottawa Craig Anderson. Wretched. Absolutely as bad this year as he was good last.

Philadelphia: Vinnie Lecavalier. Has not really fit in, looks lost at times

Phoenix: Mike Smith. Very ordinary

Pittsburgh: Beau Bennett. Great expectations, just could not stay healthy

San Jose: Marty Havlat. 8 Goals cannot stay healthy. Skill has eroded.

St. Louis: Brendan Morrow. 11 goals, fourth line minutes

Tampa: Anders Lindback. Nit Picky to fault the backup goalie but the whole team has performed very well. Maybe Ryan Malone.

Toronto: David Clarkson. Cue laugh track when describing his year. A whopping 4 goals.

Vancouver: Alex Edler. -29 and only 6 goals. Skill slipping very quickly.

Washington Brooks Laich. 7 goals, always hurt. Eroded skill.

Winnipeg: Ondrej Pavelec. One of the worst goalies in the game and the reason the Jets are on the outside.

 

  Well there is mine. Any comments or disagreements?

 

 

 

 

[ruxpin]

Fair list for the most part. I have a hard time classifying injured people as "disappointments," though. I'm specifically thinking of Eriksson. Obviously, he didn't provide what Boston hoped and do disappointing but I don't really like assigning the stigma of disappointMENT. You know?

Same with Rinne.

Otherwise, fairly nicely done.

[yave1964]

Fair list for the most part. I have a hard time classifying injured people as "disappointments," though. I'm specifically thinking of Eriksson. Obviously, he didn't provide what Boston hoped and do disappointing but I don't really like assigning the stigma of disappointMENT. You know?

Same with Rinne.

Otherwise, fairly nicely done.

  I have a difficult time with injuries too, but Loui has been bad even when playing, and really the Predators have not been that bad except in net. I had a hard time coming up with a Predator, the players who have been less than stellar not much was expected anyway. Maybe Matt Cullen? That would be about it.

[ruxpin]

Loui has always been a "meh" player for me. Good. Maybe even above average. But meh.

I think he struggled to fit in our of the gate, got injured, came back and want really well OR was a little timid, and then got injured again.

Definitely disappointing. I don't know who else on the Bruins you would put on this list of not Eriksson. Just kind of feel bad adhering with it because of the injury thing.

[Commander Clueless]

Can we list Toronto's entire team for the past month or so?

 

If not, Clarkson is the best choice. Honourable mention to Franson after his stellar year last  year.

[yave1964]

Can we list Toronto's entire team for the past month or so?

 

If not, Clarkson is the best choice. Honourable mention to Franson after his stellar year last  year.

Franson had like 15 PPPin the first 35 games and 2 since. I finally had to drop him in exasperation  in my fantasy league. I would still go 1. Clarkson 2. Reimer

[Commander Clueless]

@yave1964

 

True, but Franson's disappointment comes from his complete lack of ability to play even strength this year. Last year he looked like he might be rounding out into a very good top 4 guy.

[ruxpin]

Given his drop off recently when the team has struggled and could use him, would it be fair to include JVR in the Toronto discussion?

[Commander Clueless]

@ruxpin

 

 

If we're talking recent disappointments, perhaps. But to be honest, in the list of recent disappointments, JVR is near the bottom of the list that includes most of the team.

Edited March 24, 2014 by Commander Clueless

[jammer2]

@yave1964  Some excellent research in there, a job well done Sir!!

 

 I had not realized Richards goal scoring had gone so far south so quickly. He very well could rebound next year, but 3 goals in 40 games is pure stinky. Huberdeau does not have much to work with, but 8 goals is a step back for a top pick like him. Craig Anderson falling off the face of the earth has surprised me the most I think. I thought he was money going into this year, I can't explain it, he has the same forwards and defense, very odd the way he fell so quickly.

[B21]

@yave1964

 

I wouldn't go Bennett with the Pens.  It seems like the underestimated the severity of his wrist injury.

 

I have a 3-way tie.  Orpik, Scuderi and Sutter.  Nitpicking since the Pens are 8th in GAA but all 3 are minus players (albeit barely).

 

I just expected more from all 3 this year.  More scoring from Sutter.  More physical play from Orpik and Scuderi.

[yave1964]

@B21

 

  Bennett like several others (Rinne, Eriksson, ect..) were really unfair on this list because of injuries. The problem with these teams is nobody is really performing outside of expectations.

  In Nashville, i am not saying that they are all doing great i am saying guys like Nystrom with 12 goals were EXPECTED to have only twelve goals. Jones as a rookie d-man was expected to have a horrible plus/minus, nobody stands out as underachieving the expected results.

  Kind of the same with Pittsburgh, I thought of Scuderi at first but he is what he is, a solid 3rd pair d-man, nothing more or less. I also thought of Sutter but every time i watch a Penguins game he kills penalties like nobodies business. I also thought of Orpik, but every time i mention his name you have a brain aneurism, lol. I guess Scuderi would have to be the guy, he really has given no offense to a team that lost Letang and Martin and needed vets to step up. So there, Scuderi it is.

[B21]

@B21

 

  Bennett like several others (Rinne, Eriksson, ect..) were really unfair on this list because of injuries. The problem with these teams is nobody is really performing outside of expectations.

  In Nashville, i am not saying that they are all doing great i am saying guys like Nystrom with 12 goals were EXPECTED to have only twelve goals. Jones as a rookie d-man was expected to have a horrible plus/minus, nobody stands out as underachieving the expected results.

  Kind of the same with Pittsburgh, I thought of Scuderi at first but he is what he is, a solid 3rd pair d-man, nothing more or less. I also thought of Sutter but every time i watch a Penguins game he kills penalties like nobodies business. I also thought of Orpik, but every time i mention his name you have a brain aneurism, lol. I guess Scuderi would have to be the guy, he really has given no offense to a team that lost Letang and Martin and needed vets to step up. So there, Scuderi it is.

 

Well Scuderi isn't paid for offense.  I'd just like to see him be more physical.  Orpik, too (I only get mad when you call him "dirty").   He's clearly lost a step though.

 

These are 3 guys paid to play defense first and all are "-" players.  Barely, but still.  Not the end of the world but these are the only guys I can really single out as not playing up to expectations.

[Chicago Hawkie]

I'd say the biggest disappointment for the Hawks has been our record against teams in our own division.  Because of the recent loss to Nashville, we're still below .500 againsts teams in the central division. 

[MadDevil]

For the Devils I'd say it's either Michael Ryder or Damien Brunner. Ryder was okay the first half of the season, but has 1 goal in his last 26 games. And Brunner hasn't been much better, with 11 goals in 50 games. It wouldn't be so bad if they were good in other ways, but if they're not scoring they're completely useless.

[yave1964]

For the Devils I'd say it's either Michael Ryder or Damien Brunner. Ryder was okay the first half of the season, but has 1 goal in his last 26 games. And Brunner hasn't been much better, with 11 goals in 50 games. It wouldn't be so bad if they were good in other ways, but if they're not scoring they're completely useless.

  Brunner drove us nuts with the Wings last year, he has a bit of offensive acumen, but never seems to be where to be when going back on defense. I watched most of the game against Tampa the other day and he still seems lost. He has speed, a nose for the net but his 'hockey IQ' has to be among the lowest in the game. I do want to give your team props, in spite of losing Kovie and Clarkson on the heals of losing Parise the team has stayed in the hunt.

  Welcome to the forum BTW!

[Lightning fan]

@yave1964 You nailed it for the Bolts. Lindback has been plain bad and Malone is a buyout candidate.

 

For the Leafs maybe add Lupul? He plays like he doesn't care and it shows in his stats, a complete U-turn compared to what he looked like just a season ago.

Edited March 26, 2014 by Lightning fan

[MadDevil]

I do like his speed and his hands, but there are times I wonder what the hell he's thinking. They've tried him on the point on the PP recently and he's turned the puck over at least a couple times leading to odd man rushes. Both he and Ryder are great complimentary pieces, but on a team that doesn't have many goal scorers, it really hurts when they go into the cold streaks they've gone on. Which is part of why they haven't gained or lost ground seemingly all season. They haven't won three games in a row since November. But they haven't had any prolonged losing streaks either. They've just been stuck in neutral.

[davesch1959]

For me, as a Sens fan for many years now, it's Lehner, not Anderson.

Lehner is 8-15-6

If he could have gotten just 15 of the 36 points he lost while in nets, Ottawa would be in a comfortable spot right now with 87 points

[ruxpin]

For me, as a Sens fan for many years now, it's Lehner, not Anderson.

Lehner is 8-15-6

If he could have gotten just 15 of the 36 points he lost while in nets, Ottawa would be in a comfortable spot right now with 87 points

 

Hi @davesch1959   Good to read your first post.  Welcome aboard!

 

No doubt Lehner has been horrible, but really, you've got to go with Anderson since more was expected than a horrendous 3.10 GAA and .908 save percentage (the save percentage is only pedestrian rather than horrible, but simply not good enough).  Plus, the team in front of them simply hasn't shown up.  The Sens have scored enough goals that they should be in a better spot than they are, but from the outside looking in (you'll be the better authority on this one), it doesn't look like they want to play defense at all.  I mean, Lehner's 3.23 is horrible, but the Sens are second worst in the league regardless of who is in there.  And their save percentage is equal.

 

I'm by no means defending Lehner (why should I be the only defense anywhere near him?), but just thinking with duplicate save percentages and very similar (horrible) GAAs, the bigger disappointment has to be the starter of whom much better was expected.

 

Hey, you're a fan.  What all has happened there?  It can't all be Alfredson, right?   Even Lehner's numbers were much better last year (it seems they could have put Rosie ODonnell in there and still would have done well).  It just seems like such a mess this year.

[davesch1959]

Pourous defence, wayyyy too many lazy penalties and below average goaltending really hurt and Spezza got Hemsky too late.

[davesch1959]

Thanks for the welcome by the way.

Good to be here.

[Polaris922]

Where has Spezza been anyway? Biggest disappointment in my fantasy lineup.

[J0e Th0rnton]

  Who has been the biggest disappointment for your team this year? For the Wings I want to say Howard but truth be told Stephen Weiss has been the biggest flop. Even pre injury he was just plain bad.

 

  Here is my list by team:

 

Anaheim:    Saka Koivu. 25 points, showing his age

Boston: Loui Eriksson only 8 goals, concussion issues

Buffalo Mikhail Grigorenko  only 2 goals in 18 games, looks lost

Calgary: Sven Baertchi  only 2 goals in 26 games, quickly becoming a suspect instead of a prospect

Carolina Cam Ward. 9-16 record, injury problems losing job to Khudobin

Chicago: Michael Handzus 4 goals after being a solid contributor in last seasons post season run

Colorado: P.A. Parenteau slow start, finally got going and then got hurt, out for regular season.

Columbus Nathan Horton After a fast start returning from surgery has only 5 goals in 30 games

Dallas:  Ray Whitney 7 goals in 63 games. Stick a fork in him

Detroit See comment about about Stephen Weiss

Edmonton Nail Yakupov The biggest disappointment in the game this year. Number one pick, on the block.

Florida  Huberdeau 8 goals in 66 games

Los Angeles Mike Richards 3 goals in his last 40 games

Minnesota Danny Heatley 12 goals in 71 games. Nothing left in the tank

Montreal Danny Briere 12 goals playing 4th line minutes

Nashville Pekka Rinne only 17 games due to injury

New Jersey Danius Zubrus only 7 points in last 46 games

Islanders: Garth Snow. Enough said

Rangers: Henrik Lundquist. Good year but not a season fit for a king

Ottawa Craig Anderson. Wretched. Absolutely as bad this year as he was good last.

Philadelphia: Vinnie Lecavalier. Has not really fit in, looks lost at times

Phoenix: Mike Smith. Very ordinary

Pittsburgh: Beau Bennett. Great expectations, just could not stay healthy

San Jose: Marty Havlat. 8 Goals cannot stay healthy. Skill has eroded.

St. Louis: Brendan Morrow. 11 goals, fourth line minutes

Tampa: Anders Lindback. Nit Picky to fault the backup goalie but the whole team has performed very well. Maybe Ryan Malone.

Toronto: David Clarkson. Cue laugh track when describing his year. A whopping 4 goals.

Vancouver: Alex Edler. -29 and only 6 goals. Skill slipping very quickly.

Washington Brooks Laich. 7 goals, always hurt. Eroded skill.

Winnipeg: Ondrej Pavelec. One of the worst goalies in the game and the reason the Jets are on the outside.

 

  Well there is mine. Any comments or disagreements?

Yeah, I was never a big Havlat fan. But I was stoked to get rid of Heatley at the time because he was so slow and the Sharks fast system was just not for him. His linemate Couture was not a fast skater either, but Couture's Hockey IQ is through the roof and he is able to make up for his footspeed with anticipation and positioning.

 

Havlat I knew was made of glass, but was fast and I hoped he might find his groove in a more speed oriented system.

 

Ill be honest. I was hoping Brent Burns was going to become the messiah on defence and I was disappointed in that regard. But now he is an unorthodox defensive minded power forward and a very good compliment to Joe Thornton so I cannot be disappointed

[J0e Th0rnton]

Can we list Toronto's entire team for the past month or so?

 

If not, Clarkson is the best choice. Honourable mention to Franson after his stellar year last  year.

Nonsense!

 

Toronto playing the way they do makes life more happy for me at work ^_^

Just because the ones in my building tend to be unbearable.

 

At work, we tend to rib the crap out of each other and often sabotage each other's offices with pictures.

I.E When the Sharks got swept a few years back, I walked into my office to see it plastered with pictures of dead great White sharks and a gift wraped broom on my chair. I of course responded by filling the two culprits drawers, pockets and briefcases with the contents of every 3 hole punch in the building. Confetti rules.

 

I did go overboard with the Email though. I sent it from a 3rd party Email(didn't want to get in trouble using my work email). It was a prank Email that constantly played an MP3 at full blast(even if your speakers are low). When you open the Email, it would loudly proclaim "HEY EVERYBODY! I'M WATCHING PORNO". and make it impossible to close the window

 

Boy were they not impressed hahaha