nossagog Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Yes, as Yogi would say, it ain't over till its over. Well its over. Sid has an 18 point lead, and Getzlaf has five games left, just not going to happen. Its odd that Sid will be the only play over 100 points this year, especially with all of the injuries that the Pens have had this year. Damn good year, even if you hate him, you got to admit, he's a damn good hockey player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yave1964 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Yes, as Yogi would say, it ain't over till its over. Well its over. Sid has an 18 point lead, and Getzlaf has five games left, just not going to happen. Its odd that Sid will be the only play over 100 points this year, especially with all of the injuries that the Pens have had this year. Damn good year, even if you hate him, you got to admit, he's a damn good hockey player. I cannot see an argument for any other forward winning the award. Crosby has been amazing. Patrick Roy is trying to make a case with the press for Varlamov. Quite frankly I cannot see that either. After the whole stomping out his girlfriend earlier this year I could not see voting for him for anything. Gotta be Crosby stomp or no stomp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 @yave1964 You don't vote for the Art Ross. @nossagog I don't think you'll find many people who would argue Crosby is a damn good hockey player. I wouldn't argue he's the best, I've said it for years. Is he captain material? Does he man-up? Is he a classy player? Sportsmanlike? Those are all up for discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Congrats to Sid... As for the Hart @yave1964 we'll see what happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yave1964 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 @yave1964 You don't vote for the Art Ross. @nossagog I don't think you'll find many people who would argue Crosby is a damn good hockey player. I wouldn't argue he's the best, I've said it for years. Is he captain material? Does he man-up? Is he a classy player? Sportsmanlike? Those are all up for discussion.Damnit why do I do this? I was stlil off in my own little world thinking of the Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Damnit why do I do this? I was stlil off in my own little world thinking of the Hart.The way he's been playing of late, despite some team let down, he may very well have it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Sure...Congrats to Crosby for the Art Ross.It's an award based on pure numbers on the season...no ifs ands or buts about it.And Sid has the most points of anyone in the league....and yea, he is one heck of a hockey player. However, there is a guy in Tampa Bay named Steven Stamkos who would have likely given Sid a run for the trophy, if not out and out win it himself, this year.Before injury, Stamkos, unsurprisingly, was right up there in the race for that award. Not taking anything away from Crosby, mind you, but still, I'd put up a healthy Steven Stamkos right up along with him on any given season for that award.We will see next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Sure...Congrats to Crosby for the Art Ross.It's an award based on pure numbers on the season...no ifs ands or buts about it.And Sid has the most points of anyone in the league....and yea, he is one heck of a hockey player.However, there is a guy in Tampa Bay named Steven Stamkos who would have likely given Sid a run for the trophy, if not out and out win it himself, this year.Before injury, Stamkos, unsurprisingly, was right up there in the race for that award.Not taking anything away from Crosby, mind you, but still, I'd put up a healthy Steven Stamkos right up along with him on any given season for that award.We will see next season. . Stamkos is a great goal scorer. He has yet to break the 100 point mark but remains on pace for what would be just over 90 had he stayed healthy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 @TropicalFruitGirl26 I'd bet Stamkos has an Art Ross or two in his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Sure...Congrats to Crosby for the Art Ross.It's an award based on pure numbers on the season...no ifs ands or buts about it.And Sid has the most points of anyone in the league....and yea, he is one heck of a hockey player. However, there is a guy in Tampa Bay named Steven Stamkos who would have likely given Sid a run for the trophy, if not out and out win it himself, this year.Before injury, Stamkos, unsurprisingly, was right up there in the race for that award. Not taking anything away from Crosby, mind you, but still, I'd put up a healthy Steven Stamkos right up along with him on any given season for that award.We will see next season. Agree 100% on Stamkos. Especially if he does it next year without St. Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 @B21 He may have lost a St. Louis, but he'll be gaining a Drouin soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Agree 100% on Stamkos. Especially if he does it next year without St. Louis. Hey, it'll be a chance for Stammer to elevate his game yet again.Up until now, Stammer has always had a 'support system' of sorts playing with guys who could help him raise his own game...Vinnie Lecavalier, Slava Prospal (yes, he helped Stammer along as he broke into the league by being a speedy winger who could get him the puck), and of course Marty St. Louis. Now, Stamkos not only has to maintain what is expected of him, but now it is HE who must help elevate the play of those around him...whether that is a guy like Teddy Purcell, maybe a Tyler Johnson playing center while Stammer plays a wing position, or a Richard Panik or Alex Killorn.And as mentioned, the upcoming Jonathan Drouin. It is what great players like Crosby do: help make those around him better by challenging them on the ice to be able to keep up with him and see and play the game as fast as they see it. Really, that is where I see Stamkos next logical development stage heading: being a guy who helps make good players great, while still continuing to put up points and be great himself. For all intents and purposes, now that both VLC and MSL are gone, this is his team now, and he must lead the way not only by continuing to be a great scorer, but perhaps develop his playmaking ability a bit more to help make some of the other guys around him great as well.If he can do that, not only will the goals be there for a run at an Art Ross, but so will the assists! Edited April 7, 2014 by TropicalFruitGirl26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Hey, it'll be a chance for Stammer to elevate his game yet again.Up until now, Stammer has always had a 'support system' of sorts playing with guys who could help him raise his own game...Vinnie Lecavalier, Slava Prospal (yes, he helped Stammer along as he broke into the league by being a speedy winger who could get him the puck), and of course Marty St. Louis. Now, Stamkos not only has to maintain what is expected of him, but now it is HE who must help elevate the play of those around him...whether that is a guy like Teddy Purcell, maybe a Tyler Johnson playing center while Stammer plays a wing position, or a Richard Panik or Alex Killorn.And as mentioned, the upcoming Jonathan Drouin. It is what great players like Crosby do: help make those around him better by challenging them on the ice to be able to keep up with him and see and play the game as fast as they see it. Really, that is where I see Stamkos next logical development stage heading: being a guy who helps make good players great, while still continuing to put up points and be great himself. For all intents and purposes, now that both VLC and MSL are gone, this is his team now, and he must lead the way not only by continuing to be a great scorer, but perhaps develop his playmaking ability a bit more to help make some of the other guys around him great as well.If he can do that, not only will the goals be there for a run at an Art Ross, but so will the assists! Agree with everything you said. I'm of the opinion that Stamkos made MSL better - not the other way around (got killed for it, too!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Agree with everything you said. I'm of the opinion that Stamkos made MSL better - not the other way around (got killed for it, too!).I think it was the other way around to be honest, until recently when it became more a 50/50 split. But Stamkos was on the upside with MSL on the down, so natural progression and all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0e Th0rnton Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I cannot see an argument for any other forward winning the award. Crosby has been amazing. Patrick Roy is trying to make a case with the press for Varlamov. Quite frankly I cannot see that either. After the whole stomping out his girlfriend earlier this year I could not see voting for him for anything. Gotta be Crosby stomp or no stomp.Wasn't it proven she made that up after he cancelled all her credit cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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