Tkachuck still without contract

[radoran]

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/09/brady-tkachuk-pissed-off-at-senators.html

 

Article says his agents have "not received a legitimate contract offer".

 

The Sens, right now, are $3M under the cap floor (including $4M in dead cap space) with 11F, 8D, and 2G (capfriendly).

 

They have $24.5M in cap space available.

[thegx.ca]

Perfect, we'll take him in Calgary, this all going according to plan...

[Puck_Pun]

To be blunt, if the Senators lose him it'll be yet another example of the outrageous ineptitude by management. He's popular (fans regularly say that his new contract should come with a big C on his jumper), talented, right at the beginning of his career, and has an on ice presence that'll bring attention to the team. 

 

Add on how far below the floor the team still is... just ****** pay him already. 

Edited September 4, 2021 by Puck_Pun

[tucson83]

17 hours ago, radoran said:

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/09/brady-tkachuk-pissed-off-at-senators.html

 

Article says his agents have "not received a legitimate contract offer".

 

The Sens, right now, are $3M under the cap floor (including $4M in dead cap space) with 11F, 8D, and 2G (capfriendly).

 

They have $24.5M in cap space available.

hmm, would you trade tk and sanheim for tkachuck? i mean he would fit here since he's related with kevin hayes aka his cousin.

[TropicalFruitGirl26]

Now that the Sens have signed Batherson, attention should be turned to Tkachuk.

Unless there is some underlying issue or burning of a bridge between player and team we don't know about, I expect the Sens to come up with a nice fat contract for Brady, and come up with it real soon.

 

[radoran]

8 hours ago, tucson83 said:

hmm, would you trade tk and sanheim for tkachuck? i mean he would fit here since he's related with kevin hayes aka his cousin.

 

I'm kicking the tires (don't particularly care about making this team all about Kevin Hayes) but that's putting over $10M onto the Sens cap when it appears they're trying to skimp.

[flyercanuck]

9 hours ago, tucson83 said:

hmm, would you trade tk and sanheim for tkachuck? i mean he would fit here since he's related with kevin hayes aka his cousin.

 

I'm trying to figure out why we're building a team around a guy who's previous TWO teams wanted nothing to do with. He's an ok player who's overpaid and takes shifts off. Why don't we build our team around TK? Or Sanheim? They're just as vanilla. Where's all their buddies and relatives?

[ruxpin]

10 hours ago, tucson83 said:

hmm, would you trade tk and sanheim for tkachuck? i mean he would fit here since he's related with kevin hayes aka his cousin.

No thank you. I'm better off with TK and Sanheim.

[RonJeremy]

 We already have Atkinson and soon Foerester and Allison will make TK expendable, especially if he remains an inconsistent player. Soyheim needs to put on some muscle and take a big step this year because Zamula  and York are gonna be on his heels. So he may also find himself way down on the depth chart.  I would make that trade , but Zamula at this point ,also  needs add some weight and is probably gonna need a half season in the AHL. I would definitely see how the season plays out and how much progress our young guys make , but Tkachuck would be great on this team.

 

[flyercanuck]

7 hours ago, RonJeremy said:

 We already have Atkinson and soon Foerester and Allison will make TK expendable, especially if he remains an inconsistent player.

 

 Atkinson is 32 and has a 15 and a 12 goal season the last 2 years. Foerster hasn't played in the NHL. Allison is 6 months younger than Konecny and has played 14 NHL games to Konecnys 349. How is Konecny expendable when everyone on the team not named Farabee sucked last year?

 

7 hours ago, RonJeremy said:

 

 

 

Soyheim needs to put on some muscle and take a big step this year because Zamula  and York are gonna be on his heels. So he may also find himself way down on the depth chart.  I would make that trade , but Zamula at this point ,also  needs add some weight and is probably gonna need a half season in the AHL. I would definitely see how the season plays out and how much progress our young guys make , but Tkachuck would be great on this team.

 

 

 Sanheim needs muscle cause this guy is on his heels?

 

 

[ruxpin]

3 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

 Atkinson is 32 and has a 15 and a 12 goal season the last 2 years. Foerster hasn't played in the NHL. Allison is 6 months younger than Konecny and has played 14 NHL games to Konecnys 349. How is Konecny expendable when everyone on the team not named Farabee sucked last year?

 

 

 Sanheim needs muscle cause this guy is on his heels?

 

 

 

Well, that about all says what I was going to but decided "why bother?"

 

 

[RonJeremy]

4 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

 Atkinson is 32 and has a 15 and a 12 goal season the last 2 years. Foerster hasn't played in the NHL. Allison is 6 months younger than Konecny and has played 14 NHL games to Konecnys 349. How is Konecny expendable when everyone on the team not named Farabee sucked last year?

 

 

 Sanheim needs muscle cause this guy is on his heels?

 

 

No , he needs muscle because he was manhandled like a soyboy in a bath house  and he has other defensemen on his heels. I also did write that Zamula needs to bulk up too. It's not like he played so great his job is secure.

Edited September 5, 2021 by RonJeremy

[RonJeremy]

28 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

 

Well, that about all says what I was going to but decided "why bother?"

 

 

Foerester and Allison will be better goal scorers than Konecny and are bigger and stronger.  In spite of his 12 goals we are stuck with Atkinson for 4 more years. All I see from Konecny are him getting cheap shots, then retaliation penalties and  inconsistent play . If these young guys on defense ,especially York play up to their potential,  then Sanheim would be expendable,  he's not gonna be on the third pair for 5 million. So unless he turns into an offensive dynamo and improves his defense, he won't have a job. So in the long run getting Tkachuk for Sanheim and Konecny wouldn't be a bad move. 

[flyercanuck]

9 minutes ago, RonJeremy said:

Foerester and Allison will be better goal scorers than Konecny and are bigger and stronger.  In spite of his 12 goals we are stuck with Atkinson for 4 more years. All I see from Konecny are him getting cheap shots, then retaliation penalties and  inconsistent play . If these young guys on defense ,especially York play up to their potential,  then Sanheim would be expendable,  he's not gonna be on the third pair for 5 million. So unless he turns into an offensive dynamo and improves his defense, he won't have a job. So in the long run getting Tkachuk for Sanheim and Konecny wouldn't be a bad move. 

 

 Have Allison or Foerster led the Flyers in scoring for a season? Cause Konecny has.

 

 I like BOTH Foerster (he plays here where I live) and Allison. But neither one of them makes Konecny expendable at this point. Foerster may be bigger, but Konecny plays bigger. I've seen plenty of Foerster. Great shot. But physical ain't his game. And if Konecny (along with everyone else) gets their game back this season, his contract is one of the better ones on the team. 

 

 How much is Tkachuk (speaking of cheap shots and stupid penalties) looking for in a raise this year...for his incredible 17 goals and 19 assists that will turn this Flyer team into a juggernaut? Word is he's looking for close to $8 million a year.

 

 For 17 goals.

 

 And 19 assists. 

 

 And I thought Hayes was overpaid.

[flyercanuck]

36 minutes ago, RonJeremy said:

No , he needs muscle because he was manhandled like a soyboy in a bath house  

 

 I don't know what this means...and I'm ok with that. 

[RonJeremy]

1 hour ago, flyercanuck said:

 

 I don't know what this means...and I'm ok with that. 

Do you like Gladiator Movies?  

[RonJeremy]

1 hour ago, flyercanuck said:

 

 Have Allison or Foerster led the Flyers in scoring for a season? Cause Konecny has.

 

 I like BOTH Foerster (he plays here where I live) and Allison. But neither one of them makes Konecny expendable at this point. Foerster may be bigger, but Konecny plays bigger. I've seen plenty of Foerster. Great shot. But physical ain't his game. And if Konecny (along with everyone else) gets their game back this season, his contract is one of the better ones on the team. 

 

 How much is Tkachuk (speaking of cheap shots and stupid penalties) looking for in a raise this year...for his incredible 17 goals and 19 assists that will turn this Flyer team into a juggernaut? Word is he's looking for close to $8 million a year.

 

 For 17 goals.

 

 And 19 assists. 

 

 And I thought Hayes was overpaid.

Answer to first question...not yet. 

 

I dont dislike Konecny , but you can't argue he is very inconsistent,  leading scorer to no points in the playoffs. Long scoring droughts. He has to take big steps, no more excuses. 

 

Sanheim doesn't have to hit anyone , he just has to  be in position and be strong enough to win battles in front and on the boards. If a guy is deficient defensively,  then he has to make up for it by providing alot of offense and be in possession of the puck alot. If he is doing neither,  then he is expendable. 

 

Tkachuk's 17 goals and 19 assists in 56 games would make him one of our top 5 scorers and he would add the kind of old time Flyers grit we need. If Kotkiemi is getting 6.1 million, then Tkachuk at 8 million is not far fetched.  We are paying Mr Softee JVR 7 million for 17 goals. The salaries are ridiculous, but not much we can do. 

[radoran]

5 hours ago, RonJeremy said:

If Kotkiemi is getting 6.1 million, then Tkachuk at 8 million is not far fetched

 

Kotkaniemi is on a one year deal and I'd - as someone who really likes the player - be shocked if he signed for more than $4.5M at a longer term.

 

Tkachuck as a current A and potential foundational piece of the Senators' future, signing him long term at $8M per might almost be seen as a bargain.

[Math]

Fire Melnyk, fire Dorion, build a goddamn arena in downtown Ottawa !

 

oops, wrong thread...

[Brewin Flames]

 

The Ottawa Senators announced a significant contract extension for general manager Pierre Dorion this week, but that wasn’t the news fans of the team were hoping for. No, the Senators faithful are waiting with clenched teeth as star forward Brady Tkachuk continues to sit unsigned with just a few weeks left before training camp opens. The 21-year-old winger is a restricted free agent but did not have arbitration rights that would have sped the process along, meaning technically he’s open to an offer sheet at the moment.

 

With one of those already signed this offseason and the Senators’ long history of watching star players leave on uncertain terms, Tkachuk’s situation will be concerning to many until an actual contract is signed. There were hints earlier this offseason that the team was hoping for an eight-year deal, with the inkling even that Tkachuk may become the team’s captain if a long-term deal like that was signed.

 

But that hasn’t happened yet, and now the speculation mounts. 

 

Shawn Simpson of TSN reported that “confused and frustrated” are the words he has heard in regard to Tkachuk’s feelings, while adding that the player does not feel a real offer has been even made to this point. That certainly isn’t the same impression that Dorion left with Sportsnet radio earlier Thursday when asked about the situation:

"We’re not going to really talk about it too much in public. We have had really positive talks. Are we confident that he will be signed by the time camp starts? Yes. These negotiations aren’t always easy and–not that it’s not easy, they take a bit more time. Hopefully the next time you guys bring me on the show, we’ll be able to announce a Brady Tkachuk contract."

Of the restricted free agents left to sign this summer, only Kirill Kaprizov and Quinn Hughes scored more than Tkachuk’s 36 points last season.

 

The young forward has put up 60 goals and 125 points through three seasons, numbers that compare well to fellow 2018 draftee Andrei Svechnikov, who signed an eight-year, $62M deal last month.

 

The Senators, meanwhile, secured the services of Drake Batherson recently, inking the 23-year-old RFA to a six-year, $29.85M deal that currently makes him the highest-paid forward on the team. Overall, Thomas Chabot’s eight-year, $64M deal takes that spot for the Senators, signed in 2019 almost a year before his entry-level deal even expired.

 

The Senators will open the preseason on September 26 against the Winnipeg Jets, which is a little more than two weeks from now.

Edited September 10, 2021 by Brewin Flames

[Puck_Pun]

There has been released images showing you can buy chuck's jumper with a C on it so possibly the merch manufacturers know something we don't

[Brewin Flames]

Report: Sens believed to offer Tkachuk 8-year, $64 million deal

Bruce Garrioch of Postmedia writes it's "believed" the Senators have offered an eight-year, $64 million contract to the 21-year-old. That offer would tie Tkachuk for the team's biggest cap hit at $8 million with defenceman Thomas Chabot who signed an identical extension that kicked in last year.

 

With just eight days until training camp, the Ottawa Senators continue to negotiate with restricted free agent winger Brady Tkachuk. 

Bruce Garrioch of Postmedia writes it's "believed" the Senators have offered an eight-year, $64 million contract to the 21-year-old. That offer would tie Tkachuk for the team's biggest cap hit at $8 million with defenceman Thomas Chabot who signed an identical extension that kicked in last year. 

Tkachuk scored 17 goals and added 19 assists in 56 games last season. He has 60 goals and 65 assists in 198 career NHL games since being selected fourth overall by the Senators in the 2018 draft.

The Senators still have $24.5 million in cap space for this season after signing forward Drake Batherson to a six-year, $29.85 million deal earlier this month, per CapFriendly.

Ottawa will open training camp next week, with their first preseason game scheduled for Sept. 26.

[Puck_Pun]

I'm guessing the sticking point is on a no movement clause. He's seen the team ship players out to save money and doesn't want to be next on the list

[radoran]

7 hours ago, Puck_Pun said:

I'm guessing the sticking point is on a no movement clause. He's seen the team ship players out to save money and doesn't want to be next on the list

 

I don't know. If I was playing for Ottawa I think I'd want a Movement Clause.

 

[Puck_Pun]

Tl;dr: camp will go forward without Chuck as negotiations continue to drag. Current rumours remain the offer is 8/8.

 

https://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/garrioch-with-tkachuk-still-unsigned-coach-d-j-smith-will-have-to-prepare-to-start-without-him/wcm/83a1257f-5ccb-406e-9f34-ece303488161?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1632220493

 

Garrioch: Sens coach D.J. Smith will have to prepare to start without Tkachuk

 

The show must go on until Tkachuk signs, so adjustments will have to be made to the Senators' depth chart.

 

The lines of communication remain open between the Ottawa Senators and restricted free agent Brady Tkachuk, but as it sits now the two sides are at a stalemate.

 

You should be cautioned anything can change with one phone call and the situation remains fluid, however, it’s likely the Senators will open training camp Wednesday without their highly regarded winger in town.

 

General manager Pierre Dorion has held recent talks with Tkachuk’s Toronto-based agents Craig Oster and Don Meehan of Newport Sports and, though those discussions have been cordial, they’ve yet to find common ground that has led to a deal.

 

And, though the two sides were expected to touch base Monday, that means the show must go on until Tkachuk signs, so adjustments will have to be made to the club’s depth chart.

 

Without Tkachuk in camp, coach D.J. Smith will have to make changes to his line combinations to start camp. The club is expected to release its roster Tuesday and when the Senators hit the ice Thursday, the belief is winger Nick Paul will skate on the left side of Josh Norris and Drake Batherson.

 

Getting the chance to play a bigger role will be good for Paul. He’s just a reliable player who can help in any situation and he plays a similar style to Tkachuk by being a pain to go up against. The 6-foot-3 Paul is a strong two-way player for this team and he can also take important faceoffs if Norris kicked out of the circle.

 

No, Chris Tierney wasn’t pencilled in the lineup before camp, but if you talk to anybody, he has shown up in great shape and is determined to rebound from a bad season. He’s headed for unrestricted free agency next summer and, given his NHL experience, he might be a fit in the second-line role to start camp.

 

If so, it wouldn’t be any surprise if Tierney started camp with sophomore superstar Tim Stuetzle on his left side and veteran Connor Brown on the right side. The third line could be speedy winger Alex Formeton playing with Colin White in the middle with veteran Tyler Ennis pushing for a contract on the right.

 

Centre Shane Pinto, who finished the year strong last season in the 12 games he suited up for, could start on the fourth line and there’s many believe he can work his way up. Veteran Austin Watson will play a valuable role on the fourth line and there is an opening here on the wing for a young player.

 

Among those pushing for a spot will be the likes of Parker Kelly and Egor Sokolov.

 

Remember, though, this is all without Tkachuk in the mix and this will all change the minute he signs because he will immediately move to the first unit, which means there will have to be a realignment.

 

At some point or another, the Senators and Tkachuk’s camp are going to get this contract settled. They’ve had several discussions and though Wednesday is a pressure point, the opening of the season isn’t until Oct. 14 against the Toronto Maple Leafs and that’s when push really comes to shove.

 

Ideally, the Senators would like to get Tkachuk, 22, signed to a long-term contract and name him the club’s first captain since Erik Karlsson was dealt to the San Jose Sharks on Sept. 13, 2018.

 

As noted in this space, it’s believed the Senators have offered Tkachuk an eight-year deal worth $8 million per season, which is exactly the same contract defenceman Thomas Chabot signed in 2019.

 

It’s believed the Senators remain focused on a long-term deal to keep Tkachuk in the fold and there haven’t been any substantive talks regarding a bridge with his camp. Sure, that could change if these discussions drag on and, despite a characterization to the contrary, it’s believed they aren’t far apart.

 

That’s a touch more than the eight-year, $62.5-million deal Andrei Svechnikov signed with the Carolina Hurricanes last month and the feeling in NHL circles is he’s comparable with Tkachuk. He was taken two picks after Svechnikov in the 2018 NHL draft and their numbers are pretty comparable.

 

In 205 career NHL games, Svechnikov has 59 goals and 140 points. By comparison, Tkachuk has 60 goals and 125 points in 198 career games. Now, they play different styles and the Senators don’t need to be told that the rugged winger brings it every time he pulls on the jersey.

 

Look, Tkachuk isn’t the only restricted free agent in this situation.

 

Vancouver Canucks general manager Jim Benning is trying to get 21-year-old defenceman Quinn Hughes and 22-year-old centre Elias Pettersson signed to new deals. As it stands now, neither will be in camp and it’s not known when Vancouver might be able to get either player into the fold.

 

There’s talk when the dust settles that Hughes will sign an eight-year contract while Pettersson might be something in the five-year range. This is just speculation, but it should be noted Hughes and Tkachuk are close friends, so you have to think they’ve been in constant contact throughout the process.

 

Hughes and Pettersson are both represented by Pat Brisson and J.P. Barry of CAA Hockey, so that would add another wrinkle to those negotiations.