BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 INJURY UPDATE: Flyers forward Joel Farabee underwent successful disc replacement surgery in his cervical region this morning (Fri., June 24). The surgery was performed by Dr. Jon Yoon, a neurosurgeon at Penn Medicine. He is expected to make a full recovery in 3-4 months. https://t.co/qyio463iKG How the **** did the medical and training staff allow him back on the ice? And more important, if management and the coaching staff knew about this, why did they allow him to play? Incompetent and medically dangerous. I hope the union rep is all over this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pilldoc Posted June 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: INJURY UPDATE: Flyers forward Joel Farabee underwent successful disc replacement surgery in his cervical region this morning (Fri., June 24). The surgery was performed by Dr. Jon Yoon, a neurosurgeon at Penn Medicine. He is expected to make a full recovery in 3-4 months. https://t.co/qyio463iKG How the **** did the medical and training staff allow him back on the ice? And more important, if management and the coaching staff knew about this, why did they allow him to play? Incompetent and medically dangerous. I hope the union rep is all over this. AND ...... why wait now......Surgery could have been done at end of April/1st week in May so he would be ready for training camp. 4 months puts you end of October and until he is back in game shape it could be middle end of November or early December before he gets serious ice time..... What a bunch of incapable imbeciles and fools ........ 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FD19372 Posted June 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2022 Oh the irony...this NHL *franchise has been committing operational malpractice, for over a decade. I hope the NHL players' union sues. They can't even protect their own damn players, and they wonder why no really good to great players, want to sign with the Flyers anymore? 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pilldoc Posted June 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, FD19372 said: this NHL *franchise has been committing operational malpractice, for over a decade ^^^^ this x1000 ^^^^^ This succinctly sums up everything in 12 words! Perfect! 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Tap the brakes chaps....I just did a little reading on this from Johns Hopkins. This may have been a preventative type of surgery. From the article: "Disk replacement surgery may have the advantage of allowing more movement and creating less stress on your remaining vertebrae than traditional cervical disk surgery" Just because we aren't given all the information we think we deserve, doesn't mean its the end of the world 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, CoachX said: Tap the brakes chaps....I just did a little reading on this from Johns Hopkins. This may have been a preventative type of surgery. From the article: "Disk replacement surgery may have the advantage of allowing more movement and creating less stress on your remaining vertebrae than traditional cervical disk surgery" Just because we aren't given all the information we think we deserve, doesn't mean its the end of the world This franchise doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. The medical and training staff has been caught dropping the ball so many times over the years with regards to player health. I don't buy for one second that this was 'preventative' in any way, shape or form. You don't end up with a bad neck two months after the season ends. They cleared Farabee to play with a bad neck. **** them. They all deserve to be **** canned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Greetings: This is one of the reasons I haven't cared that much about our coaching choice or the forthcoming draft. The Flyers' "Training-Medical Complex" needs a deep assessment. If memory serves, we lost over 400 Man-Games last year, tops in the league. Whether this is a function of poor player selection or inappropriate medical-training delivery is hard to say. But somebody in the org-an-eye-zhation better examine best practices in other franchises to apply here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: This franchise doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. The medical and training staff has been caught dropping the ball so many times over the years with regards to player health. I don't buy for one second that this was 'preventative' in any way, shape or form. You don't end up with a bad neck two months after the season ends. They cleared Farabee to play with a bad neck. **** them. They all deserve to be **** canned. Your'e assuming Farabee had no input here. Its quite possible this injury was not caused by an "in game" event, and it is something he was dealing with that didn't stop him from playing. It may not have been an "injury at all". Although the two things are not related, Oscar was not injured. It could be timing and availability are factors for this procedure. Maybe it was chosen to be done now, so that he could recover without missing time at a crucial moment, or even having it turn into an INJURY that could have been prevented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 From what I found ....... Take it FWIW ..... https://phillyhockeynow.com/2022/06/24/philadelphia-flyers-joel-farabee-injured-injury-miss-three-four-months-surgery-chuck-flethcer-training-camp/ Fletcher said the onset of Farabee’s symptoms only happened recently, which is why surgery wasn’t performed earlier in the offseason. Farabee, 22, a first-round draft selection in 2018, has 45 goals in 170 NHL games. He missed some time last season because of the injury and managed just two points in his last 14 games. The injury worsened as the offseason progressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Quote Fletcher said the onset of Farabee’s symptoms only happened recently, which is why surgery wasn’t performed earlier in the offseason. Farabee, 22, a first-round draft selection in 2018, has 45 goals in 170 NHL games. He missed some time last season because of the injury and managed just two points in his last 14 games. The injury worsened as the offseason progressed. from the story @pilldoc linked to...(emphasis mine) Does anyone else see a contradiction here? The symptoms "only happened recently" says Fletcher...but he missed time during the season because of the injury. Huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, GratefulFlyers said: from the story @pilldoc linked to...(emphasis mine) Does anyone else see a contradiction here? The symptoms "only happened recently" says Fletcher...but he missed time during the season because of the injury. Huh? The injury was reported as a shoulder injury. Not that this excuses anyone from anything that has happened to other guys. But if he was reporting shoulder discomfort, is it SOP to also scan the spine? I don't know any of the workings or goings on. At this point it is hard to have any grace for the med-staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, FireDillabaugh said: Imagine that, right? More contradiction from management when a microphone is in Fletcher's face. This is EXACTLY why press conferences need to be taken with a grain of salt, and not believed to be truthful in any way. There's simply no excuse for waiting this long to get him this surgery. Doesn't matter one single bit if it's a necessary surgery, or just a preventative surgery(ridiculous comment). It's was very clear to see in his game towards the end of the season that something was wrong. It appeared that it was very likely that the lazy contagion had infected him, his skating, and his will to work. An injury like this would explain that appearance. And, this team's medical staff should have clearly realized that if it was affecting his play this drastically, he never should have been allowed back on the ice, the injury should have been dealt with, and surgery probably should have happened before the season even ended. This. 100% this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: But if he was reporting shoulder discomfort, is it SOP to also scan the spine? ask and you shall recieve ..... from Stanford Medicine - RE: The Shoulder Exam https://stanfordmedicine25.stanford.edu/the25/shoulder.html 1) In examining a patient with a painful shoulder we should start with a general inspection, looking for musculoskeletal abnormalities and any associated functional deficits. Then, we can carry on some specialized tests that will help us uncover any lesions of the muscular or ligamentous structures of the joint. 2) The physical exam of the shoulder starts by observing the patient removing his or her shirt. This is our first opportunity to notice any functional impairments of the shoulder joint. 3) General Inspection - Once the patient has uncovered the upper trunk and extremities we can move to a general inspection of the front, the side and the back of each shoulder. Our goal is to identify any abnormalities in the muscle bulk or any asymmetrical bony defects. 4) Cervical Spine Exam - Before proceeding with the examination of the shoulder it is very important to complete a full examination of the cervical spine to make sure that no spinal pathologies are contributing to the presentation. We should at the very least check for cervical spinal tenderness, by palpating the cervical spinous processes, and the range of motion of the neck in flexion, extension and rotation. HOWEVER ........ I did come across this ....so again take it FWIW .... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1994306/ Cervical spine magnetic resonance imaging in primary care consulters with shoulder pain: a case–control study Objectives: To investigate the association between shoulder region pain presenting in primary care and cervical spine magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) abnormalities. Conclusion: In summary, this study confirms the association of shoulder region pain with clinical features of cervical spine involvement. However, no association was found between shoulder region pain and structural abnormalities at the cervical spine on MRI scanning. Thus, there is no indication for routine MRI scanning of the neck in patients with predominant shoulder pain. Again these are sports athletes and IMO a more comprehensive exam should be warranted......again just my humble opionion. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 You'd figure after what Gary Roberts went through with his neck (and it all started similar to what Farabee had) that teams works he more inclined to get the neck area tested. And don't forget that when Joffrey Lupul played here, he had whiplash from the Hatcher check and they did nothing for him either. Ridiculous that anyone in any medical, training and management capacity is still working in Philadelphia. Mind boggling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 4 hours ago, pilldoc said: From what I found ....... Take it FWIW ..... https://phillyhockeynow.com/2022/06/24/philadelphia-flyers-joel-farabee-injured-injury-miss-three-four-months-surgery-chuck-flethcer-training-camp/ Fletcher said the onset of Farabee’s symptoms only happened recently, which is why surgery wasn’t performed earlier in the offseason. Farabee, 22, a first-round draft selection in 2018, has 45 goals in 170 NHL games. He missed some time last season because of the injury and managed just two points in his last 14 games. The injury worsened as the offseason progressed. I'm sure he's lying. Thats what they do. They lie. The medical staff is incompetent and caused this by mistreating whatever the original problem was. Im sure they want to do their part to ruin this team and keep it mired in ineptitude. That is the plan after all, to destroy this team and make all of us miserable 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 hours ago, FireDillabaugh said: There's simply no excuse for waiting this long to get him this surgery. Doesn't matter one single bit if it's a necessary surgery, or just a preventative surgery(ridiculous comment) Are you a doctor? Yeah. Didn't think so. Thanks for playing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 12 hours ago, CoachX said: Are you a doctor? Yeah. Didn't think so. Thanks for playing Argle Bargle!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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