JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) for 2015 2nd & 3rd round picks. Re-tweeted from somebody by Bob McKenzie. Edit: 3rd rounder may be 2014 not 2015 Edited March 4, 2014 by JackStraw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xganarchy Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 And Phantom Matt Mangene http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=707620 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Horrible ... He will fit in w/ our defense as he is a trunover machine. Way too much for him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) And Phantom Matt Mangenehttp://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=707620 Yeah, just saw that. I think we can live without him. Certainly not a horrible trade for the Flyers. Flyers have a bunch of d-men now though. Figure something's gotta give... Edited March 4, 2014 by JackStraw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Another trade that was made just for the purposes of making a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkscrewy Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 We can now be certain that there is a framed sign in Homer's office of The Rules: "1. You can never have too many centers. 2. You can never sign too many over the hill vets. 3. You can never have too many 7-8 defensemen in your press box." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Horrible ... He will fit in w/ our defense as he is a trunover machine. Way too much for him... I don't think it's horrible but I'm not sure what the point of it is unless someone, say Meszaros, is getting traded. Don't really like giving up yet another 2nd rounder but Homer will be Homer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xganarchy Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I think this means one of our regulars is in talks. Meszaros-courier would be most likely but I have a feeling teams are calling for Timo too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/440961464627511297 Meltzer says he has good mobility in addition to blocking a lot of shots. Says he was asked to do too much for NYI. We'll see. I think he could help if he's used well. Otoh, he's a UFA after this season and people are saying he wants 5 yrs at $5 million which I would pass on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 We can now be certain that there is a framed sign in Homer's office of The Rules: "1. You can never have too many centers. 2. You can never sign too many over the hill vets. 3. You can never have too many 7-8 defensemen in your press box." You forgot "Never keep 2nd and 3rd round draft picks". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 I think this means one of our regulars is in talks. Meszaros-courier would be most likely but I have a feeling teams are calling for Timo too Darren Dreger tweeted that there was interest in Timonen but that he wants to stay in Philly. I think Bruins might be interested in Meszaros as a rental replacement for Seidenberg. The Chara connection works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 This is about as brilliant as bringing in another center - don't we have enough mediocre defencemen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 This is about as brilliant as bringing in another center - don't we have enough mediocre defencemen? Dreger also reported that the asking price for Mesz is a 2nd. If Homer can swing that I'm down with it. If he can trade Grossman while he's at it, I might even smile a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 @JackStraw Sure. I'll hold my breath and wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 @JackStraw Sure. I'll hold my breath and wait. You might want to take a breath every now and the, just to be safe. You know how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Apparently this was the trade that sent hfboards over the edge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 This is about as brilliant as bringing in another center - don't we have enough mediocre defencemen?Opinion on the guy before the trade hide all sharp objects while reading...http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2014/2/28/5457144/philadelphia-flyers-trade-rumors-andrew-macdonald-defense-2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 He's 28, was a top 4 guy... I don't know if I get the Kvetching from the faithful here ?I saw him play pretty well vs the Pens until he got dinged up, what am I missing ? I don't want to hear about mortgaging the future either because 3rd round draft picks Klotz and Ghouloborne will come and kick your asses.We got a guy that can skate, make a pass, run the powerplay ... i mean what the **** guys ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 He's 28, was a top 4 guy... I don't know if I get the Kvetching from the faithful here ?I saw him play pretty well vs the Pens until he got dinged up, what am I missing ? I don't want to hear about mortgaging the future either because 3rd round draft picks Klotz and Ghouloborne will come and kick your asses.We got a guy that can skate, make a pass, run the powerplay ... i mean what the **** guys ? Depends on what happens next, for me, really. Guy is a pending UFA. He's turned down four years, $16M before. If the Flyers gave up a "player" a 2nd and a 3rd for a 20-game rental, I'm thinking the price was too high. If the Flyers then sign him to a 5-year, $21M deal then the Flyers' top pairing next season is... the Islanders' top pairing last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 @mojo1917 - I don't know about running the pp but otherwise I pretty much agree. Basically I'm in wait-and-see mode. It would make sense for Homer to now trade one or both of Mesz/Grossman. If he can get a 2nd for Mesz and a 3rd for Grossman, I'd actually be pretty happy. We could have a defense of: Coburn/TimonenStreit/MacDonaldGus/Schenn That's a more mobile defense than we have right now (with Gus in the press box). You shed Grossman's salary and although he seems like a good guy I think he has to go. He's just painfully slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Depends on what happens next, for me, really. Guy is a pending UFA. He's turned down four years, $16M before. If the Flyers gave up a "player" a 2nd and a 3rd for a 20-game rental, I'm thinking the price was too high. If the Flyers then sign him to a 5-year, $21M deal then the Flyers' top pairing next season is... the Islanders' top pairing last year. Agree with most of that but I don't see MacDonald on the Flyers top pair next year (if they do sign him). Assuming Timonen retires then, well Streit/Coburn probably makes the most sense. Bottom line is that the Flyers really need to re-shape their defense, and it's not likely to happen overnight. If they make some moves now that start them down that path then I'm ok with it. Edited March 4, 2014 by JackStraw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 He's 28, was a top 4 guy... I don't know if I get the Kvetching from the faithful here ?I saw him play pretty well vs the Pens until he got dinged up, what am I missing ? I don't want to hear about mortgaging the future either because 3rd round draft picks Klotz and Ghouloborne will come and kick your asses.We got a guy that can skate, make a pass, run the powerplay ... i mean what the **** guys ? Well, for starters, he's not very good in his own end....hockey futures blurb on him... "MacDonald has above average offensive skills for a blue liner, and a talent for creating quick offensive rushes. It is his ability to make tape-to-tape, up-ice passes and set up for quick shots off the point that make him, if not a true defenseman, a talented offensive-defenseman. He will need to work on his positioning in the defensive zone. Once along the boards, MacDonald is easy to get by. He is all too eager to go in the offensive zone and will need to better discipline himself at sticking to the duties of his position." I'm not thrilled, basically an younger version of Streit....a mediocre d-man who is decent at running the pp and that is about it. Another defensive liability.....great, just what the doctor ordered....I believe he turns 28 in Septemeber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Streit/MacDonald HA HA>....why even send out a defense, that is a HORRIBLE pairing....WTF!! Our defense just got significantly worse, didn't even think that was possible.....LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 @JackStraw i agree that one of Schenn and Grossmann is plenty so if Homer can flip Grossman for a 3rd then it's a win. I wish I knew what to do with Mez because there are plenty of times recently where he looks really good, like his confidence is coming back, he's not afraid his body is going to break and he's actually playing hockey. He's a nice player when he's able to be himself on the ice. I don't think he's in the long term plans though Hahaha I said long term plan . so a second or a buried prospect for help now maybe Boston ? would be a nice return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 You forgot "Never keep 2nd and 3rd round draft picks". Damn... You beat to it FC!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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