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The #Flyers have signed D Andrew MacDonald to multi-year contract extension


 



Flyers have re-signed Andrew MacDonald


 



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MacDonald’s deal is six years $30 million.


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It Is What It Is I Guess. Good, Solid Young Dman. He's Looked Pretty Good So Far. After Reading An Article On Kimmo Yesterday Im Not Sure He's Done Yet. I Have To Think Someone (Grossman) Gets Traded After This Season.

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Personally, I don't want Kimmo back.  Sorry, but time to turn the page and start getting these young guys into the mix.

 

It's a slight overpayment, IMO.  However, it's the same money we would have paid Matt Carle.  Not saying that MacDonald is equal/greater than Carle, but this just seems to be the going rate for D-men these days.  

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Too much for too long. I like the player, but $5M for 6 is just too much.

 

By way of comparison, Matt Carle scored 35, 40 and 38 points for the Flyers in the three years before the organization balked at giving him, what? $5.5M (or less before the FA market)

 

Just for the record, that's more points than MacDonald has in his career.

 

Four points in 19 games, -3 for the Flyers. 24 points in 63 games for the Islanders, -19.

 

$5M

 

Heckuvajob Homer

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Too much for too long. I like the player, but $5M for 6 is just too much.

 

By way of comparison, Matt Carle scored 35, 40 and 38 points for the Flyers in the three years before the organization balked at giving him, what? $5.5M (or less before the FA market)

 

Just for the record, that's more points than MacDonald has in his career.

 

Four points in 19 games, -3 for the Flyers. 24 points in 63 games for the Islanders, -19.

 

$5M

 

Heckuvajob Homer

 

 

Agreed. I like the guy, and I think he fits in nicely here. But $5M for a 2nd pairing guy with mediocre offensive skills for SIX years is too much for too long.

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Agreed. I like the guy, and I think he fits in nicely here. But $5M for a 2nd pairing guy with mediocre offensive skills for SIX years is too much for too long.

 

Just posted this in the shoutbox, but Meltzer says on teh Twitters

 

MacDonald got his open market value to sign and pre-empt UFA. No more and no less.

 

To recap Meltzer's opinion - the "market value" for a guy who has never hit 30 points in his career is $500K less than the value of a guy who has hit 40 twice and 30+ five times (Carle) - not to mention the prorated 22 points in 48 games last season.

 

That's in-frikkin-sane from where I sit.

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Just posted this in the shoutbox, but Meltzer says on teh Twitters

 

 

 

To recap Meltzer's opinion - the "market value" for a guy who has never hit 30 points in his career is $500K less than the value of a guy who has hit 40 twice and 30+ five times (Carle) - not to mention the prorated 22 points in 48 games last season.

 

That's in-frikkin-sane from where I sit.

 

Yeah, I'm not sure that's market value.

 

Here are his hit comparables:

 

http://capgeek.com/comparables/?player_id=1110&year_id=2014

 

 
 
Martin, Paul » 33 PIT 5 2010 2015 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 8.42% $0
Edler, Alexander » 27 VAN 6 2013 2019 $4,250,000 $5,000,000 7.78% $0
Gonchar, Sergei » 40 DAL 2 2013 2015 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 7.78% $0
MacDonald, Andrew » 27 PHI 6 2014 2020 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 7.03% $0
Pronger, Chris » 39 PHI 7 2010 2017 $4,000,000 $4,941,429 8.32% $58,571
Bogosian, Zach » 23 WPG 7 2013 2020 $4,000,000 $5,142,857 8.00% $142,857
Faulk, Justin » 22 CAR 6 2014 2020 $2,500,000 $4,833,333 6.80% $166,667
Byfuglien, Dustin » 29 WPG 5 2011 2016 $5,750,000 $5,200,000 8.09% $200,000
Visnovsky, L. » 37 NYI 2 2013 2015 $6,000,000 $4,750,000 7.39% $250,000
Yandle, Keith » 27 PHX 5 2011 2016 $5,500,000 $5,250,000 8.16% $250,000
Streit, Mark » 36 PHI 4 2013 2017 $6,250,000 $5,250,000 8.16% $250,000
Kronwall, Niklas » 33 DET 7 2012 2019 $6,000,000 $4,750,000 6.77% $250,000
Wideman, Dennis » 31 CGY 5 2012 2017 $5,000,000 $5,250,000 7.48% $250,000
McDonagh, Ryan » 24 NYR 6 2013 2019 $4,300,000 $4,700,000 7.31% $300,000
Goligoski, Alex » 28 DAL 4 2012 2016 $4,800,000 $4,600,000 6.55% $400,000
Garrison, Jason » 29 VAN 6 2012 2018 $5,000,000 $4,600,000 6.55% $400,000
Bouwmeester, Jay » 30 STL 5 2014 2019 $5,000,000 $5,400,000 7.59% $400,000
Bieksa, Kevin » 32 VAN 5 2011 2016 $4,000,000 $4,600,000 7.15% $400,000
Hamhuis, Dan » 31 VAN 6 2010 2016 $4,250,000 $4,500,000 7.58% $500,000
Wisniewski, James » 30 CLB 6 2011 2017 $5,000,000 $5,500,000 8.55% $500,000
Tyutin, Fedor » 30 CLB 6 2012 2018 $4,750,000 $4,500,000 6.41% $500,000
 
 
I would take the majority of those guys over AMac at this salary. So by "market value" Meltzer must surely mean this summer's market. Which makes sense. But taken holistically, AMac is not worth $5M, not based on what he's actually accomplished in the NHL, and the potential development he offers.
 
But it is what it is, I guess. 
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I would take the majority of those guys over AMac at this salary. So by "market value" Meltzer must surely mean this summer's market. Which makes sense. But taken holistically, AMac is not worth $5M, not based on what he's actually accomplished in the NHL, and the potential development he offers.

But it is what it is, I guess.

 

Let's look apples to apples.

 

Keith Yandle is 27, with two 50 point seasons, two 40 point seasons and two 30 point seasons. He's signed for $5.5M on a deal from 2011.

 

Andrew MacDonald is 27, with a 27 point season, a 19, 12 in 48 and then 28 points (combined this season). He's now signed for $5M.

 

For the record, I do think Yandle will get more on his next deal.

 

In 2016.

 

Jason Garrison is 29, scored 30 points in his second season and got a $4.6M AAV contract with Vancouver through 2018. He then posted 16 in 47 and hit 30 again this season.

 

Neither of those guys IMO makes MacDonald's "market value" $5M per for six years.

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Neither of those guys IMO makes MacDonald's "market value" $5M per for six years.

 

puts it into context... I was hoping nothing more than 4.5M and would have walked at 5M.  Again, I like the player but that is a big contract for a guy who really is a 2nd pairing type player.   No wonder we have the highest defensive payroll in the league - Homer throws at any defensman he can...  

 

If I were a servicable NHL defenseman I would target the Flyers as a FA - God knows Homer will shower any defenseman with cash.   Letting Matt Carle walk just looks dumb and dumber...

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I like the signing, I was hoping the Wings would have went after him at the deadline.

 

Led the league in blocks with 242.

 

Has a nice intelligent crisp first pass.

 

Can run the power play if called upon.

 

Six years seems a bit long but hey, defense is a bit thin in the UFA market this year and it is best to get him locked up so you don't wind up with a slug. Overall decent signing but contract a tad long.

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Six years seems a bit long but hey, defense is a bit thin in the UFA market this year and it is best to get him locked up so you don't wind up with a slug. Overall decent signing but contract a tad long.

 

My issue is that they are filling a "next year" need with a "six year" deal - again.

 

Well, that and the concept that the Flyers' "#2" defenceman next season has never scored 30 points in a season.

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My issue is that they are filling a "next year" need with a "six year" deal - again.

 

Well, that and the concept that the Flyers' "#2" defenceman next season has never scored 30 points in a season.

 

 

Deep breathing Rad... it will help.   Wait until homer brings back Kimmo for another 1 yr deal worth 6M.

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Deep breathing Rad... it will help.   Wait until homer brings back Kimmo for another 1 yr deal worth 6M.

 

No, really, murray - having last year's top two Islanders' defencemen as the Flyers' 1/2 is an upgrade for the Flyers. Or, you know, something... :ph34r:

 

Again, I can't even imagine what some people around here would say if, for example, the Pens or Rangers (or, say, Sabres) had decided to sign the Islanders' top D pairing as an "improvement."

 

For the next three years at a combined $10.25M on the cap.

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Six years seems a bit long but hey, defense is a bit thin in the UFA market this year and it is best to get him locked up so you don't wind up with a slug. Overall decent signing but contract a tad long.

 

A bit long yes but he'll only be 33 when it ends. So basically they've got him locked up (but without a NTC/NMC) for his prime years. For Paul Holmgren, this represents progress.

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My issue is that they are filling a "next year" need with a "six year" deal - again.

 

Well, that and the concept that the Flyers' "#2" defenceman next season has never scored 30 points in a season.

 

I think this is a good point here, rad: we're filling a need for the next few years with a six-year commitment.

 

Morin, Hagg, and Ghost *should* surpass AMac within six-years for sure. 

 

It just seems like Homer gives out long expensive contracts to players who are not necessarily part of the core. A six-year contract is for your top pairing guy(s), IMO. Not your bottom 4 defensemen. Those guys typically get 2-4 year deals. I just went through the top 10-12 teams on Capgeek, and the Flyers are basically the only team that has multiple defensemen (6) committed to 3+ years. One of those guys is Pronger. And 5 of those 6 have some form of NMC/NTC - only AMac does not. Most of those top 12 teams have 2 or 3. TB and Chicago have 4. LA has 0.

 

I just don't see any evidence that AMac *earned* a $30 million payday based on his play with the Flyers (19 GP, 4 pts, -3)?  What about his career (295 GP, 89 pts, -11)? He will also be 28 when the next season starts. He's pretty close to being a finished product, if he isn't already, so there shouldn't be much expectation for growth.

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Does the six years make him more tradeable three years from now, when the current crop of young'ns is ready for the Bigs?

 

A 30 year old defensmen, making "only" $5 million for three more years might be attractive at the 2017 deadline.

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