Podein25 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Whatever that word is, maybe that's what they meant? There's already a word for it, no need to invent new ones: stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 There's already a word for it, no need to invent new ones: stupid Because of Homer's "implementation", or actually stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 @doom88 Actually I was still referring to whatever the hell is going on in SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0e Th0rnton Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I didn't think about Couture. He wouldn't be a bad choice either.Vlasic. He provides such a steady, calming presence. Gets feisty when needed, chirps the opposing team and never gets off his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I really don't understand this move. Seems they are just mad they didn't want a trade so this is their way of getting back at them. I guess Logan will be the new Captain. This is a front office that isn't sure what they want to do and it shows in their moves or lack of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0e Th0rnton Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I really don't understand this move. Seems they are just mad they didn't want a trade so this is their way of getting back at them. I guess Logan will be the new Captain. This is a front office that isn't sure what they want to do and it shows in their moves or lack of them.Stir more controversy to shift the discussion away from everything DW hasn't done this off-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The puzzling part is why even take away the captaincy if there is even a slight chance that Joe could get it back? Why not avoid all that embarrassment for Joe, they could have accomplished their goal without making the whole thing public. I can only conclude they wanted to light a fire under Joe, again...something that could have been done behind the scenes. If they wanted to go a different direction, they could have observed and made conclusions based on training camp and pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0e Th0rnton Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The puzzling part is why even take away the captaincy if there is even a slight chance that Joe could get it back? Why not avoid all that embarrassment for Joe, they could have accomplished their goal without making the whole thing public. I can only conclude they wanted to light a fire under Joe, again...something that could have been done behind the scenes. If they wanted to go a different direction, they could have observed and made conclusions based on training camp and pre-season. It is entirely possible this is the first in a string of insults and slights to get him to waive the No Movement clause they gave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It is entirely possible this is the first in a string of insults and slights to get him to waive the No Movement clause they gave him. There are far better ways of approaching things than publically shaming a loyal employee. It makes the Sharks look classless. Like I said, the same goals could have been achieved behind the scenes without making Joe look like a piece of meat who can be discarded once a few bites are taken. Just a horrible way to go about things IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0e Th0rnton Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 There are far better ways of approaching things than publically shaming a loyal employee. It makes the Sharks look classless. Like I said, the same goals could have been achieved behind the scenes without making Joe look like a piece of meat who can be discarded once a few bites are taken. Just a horrible way to go about things IMHO.Tell me something I don't know lol. I think Wilson went off the deep end after this loss. TMac strikes me as just doing what he is told, but Larry Robinson criticized Joe for making snappy sarcastic jokes and a cutting sense of humor that were not mean spirited that all the vets laugh off, but came off the wrong way at some of the young guys and hurting their feelings. ROFL Good grief. This is a sport filled with glorified alpha males most of the time, and now their feelings are hurt because Thornton makes jokes like Dr House? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 @J0e Th0rnton Just a sign of the times bro. Things are so politically correct that a captain has to walk on eggshells when addressing team members, it's sad, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 @J0e Th0rnton Just a sign of the times bro. Things are so politically correct that a captain has to walk on eggshells when addressing team members, it's sad, really. Political correctness can ruin anything... Even hockey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 @ScottM It really bugs me when groups turn into sub groups and all are protected under the political correctness movement. You can't have a nativity scene in a cities Christmas display cause the Satan worshipping crowd is not given equal attention. Then the people who worship squirrels and Satan in no specific order also want their own display....how about this....this country was founded on Christian morals and Jesus's teachings...so go suck a lemon if you want equal time or space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 @ScottM It really bugs me when groups turn into sub groups and all are protected under the political correctness movement. You can't have a nativity scene in a cities Christmas display cause the Satan worshipping crowd is not given equal attention. Then the people who worship squirrels and Satan in no specific order also want their own display....how about this....this country was founded on Christian morals and Jesus's teachings...so go suck a lemon if you want equal time or space. As far as the U.S. Constitution is concerned, the only things the government is forbidden from doing are the establishment of an official religion and preventing someone from freely exercising their own personal religion (Provided, of course, that it doesn't violate common sense laws. You obviously don't want people killing others and robbing banks because their "religion" says to). People also fail to recognize that freedom of speech doesn't include freedom to not be offended. And I'd better stop there before I get on a soapbox and wear out my welcome. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 People also fail to recognize that freedom of speech doesn't include freedom to not be offended. Wise words bro, wise words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I worship Kate Beckinsale. Someone get me a lifelike statue of her and I'll take care of the erection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I worship Kate Beckinsale. Someone get me a lifelike statue of her and I'll take care of the erection. Friggin instant classic right there, just spit Ice Coffee all over my laptop!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDevil Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 There are far better ways of approaching things than publically shaming a loyal employee. It makes the Sharks look classless. Like I said, the same goals could have been achieved behind the scenes without making Joe look like a piece of meat who can be discarded once a few bites are taken. Just a horrible way to go about things IMHO. They're kind of screwed either way though. If they ask Joe to waive his NMC and he doesn't, they're either stuck with a guy who knows he isn't wanted anymore, or they have to find a way to get him to waive his NMC. Considering how big of a personality he seems to have in the locker room, a disgruntled Joe Thornton could turn into a really ugly situation for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 @MadDevil It could turn ugly, and I'm not completely sure on this, but my gut says Joe will be a pro about this and not let his ego get in the way of the bigger picture, ie the team. This would be more of a test of his leadership than anything else....can he put his personal feelings aside and suck it up for the good of the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I worship Kate Beckinsale. Someone get me a lifelike statue of her and I'll take care of the erection.You are a twisted individual rux....I suppose you want it made out of washable rubber too...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I think I am in the "This is just the first shot to make Thornton drop his NMC" boat. What was the remark he made after Hertl scored 4 goals? " I'd have my c0ck out after scoring 4 goals...and stroking it......" Although hilarious, I am sure the management frowned upon that particular vernacular for supporting his team mate. Couture seems to me to be the logical choice if he has the respect of his team. He certainly has the skills on the ice to be the leader, the question is can he do it in the locker room too......I am pretty sure that Joe would have a colorful comment to that line also........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 I'll throw this out there... Since all of the leadership positions were removed it seems entirely possible that the stink made wasn't just to remove Thornton from the leadership group. Marleau had his "A" removed as well. I think it is possible management didn't want to single out Thornton or Marleau, but instead they now have a group of 6 potential candidates for the 3 leadership positions. Couture, Vlassic, Burns, Palvelski,Thornton, and Marleau. One of the 3 positions will be given to either Vlasic or Burns. Couture will get one also, and his letter will likely be a "C". Comments made by Couture in the media that he is still not over the loss from the Kings stands out to me similar to the Giroux statement "Put me in Coach" that Giroux made. The other will be either of Thornton or Marleau who steps it up the most vs Palvelski. I believe the Sharks management stated that the leadership team would be announced in training camp. It is entirely possible they go with a different group of 3 "A"s for the first 3 months of the season and name the new Captain in January... aka what the Wild did for 9 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 You are a twisted individual rux.... LOL This is news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0e Th0rnton Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I'll throw this out there... Since all of the leadership positions were removed it seems entirely possible that the stink made wasn't just to remove Thornton from the leadership group. Marleau had his "A" removed as well. I think it is possible management didn't want to single out Thornton or Marleau, but instead they now have a group of 6 potential candidates for the 3 leadership positions. Couture, Vlassic, Burns, Palvelski,Thornton, and Marleau. One of the 3 positions will be given to either Vlasic or Burns. Couture will get one also, and his letter will likely be a "C". Comments made by Couture in the media that he is still not over the loss from the Kings stands out to me similar to the Giroux statement "Put me in Coach" that Giroux made. The other will be either of Thornton or Marleau who steps it up the most vs Palvelski. I believe the Sharks management stated that the leadership team would be announced in training camp. It is entirely possible they go with a different group of 3 "A"s for the first 3 months of the season and name the new Captain in January... aka what the Wild did for 9 years.I can't see Burns getting a letter. He is the poster child for ignoring the coach and team system. Of all players, he is the guy who had his icetime chopped in the last few games of the playoffs a few times. Shame every center but Jumbo Joe was sucking in the faceoff circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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