brelic Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Meltzer's writeup: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-Meltzer/Flyers-Gameday-1516-vs-MTL/45/73738 Key team stat comparisons (NHL overall ranking) Non-shootout goals per game: Flyers 2.11 (29th), Canadiens 2.85 (T-4th) Non-shootout goals against per game: Flyers 2.68 (T-18th), Canadiens 2.45 (12th) 5-on-5 Goals For/Against Ratio: Flyers 49/55, Canadiens 73/65 Power play efficiency: Flyers 16.4% (27th), Canadiens 18.8% (17th) Penalty killing efficiency: Flyers 77.3% (26th), Canadiens 84.8% (4th) Shots per game: Flyers 30.1 (12th), Canadiens 31.4 (4th) Shots against per game: Flyers 32.6 (29th), Canadiens 27.7 (4th) Faceoff percentage: Flyers 49.5% (22nd), Canadiens 50.9% (9th) Projected lineups (subject to change, will be updated) Flyers 93 Jakub Voracek - 28 Claude Giroux - 17 Wayne Simmonds 12 Michael Raffl - 14 Sean Couturier - 10 Brayden Schenn 76 Chris VandeVelde - 78 Pierre-Edouard Bellemare - 25 Ryan White [24 Matt Read] - 21 Scott Laughton - 20 R.J. Umberger 15 Michael Del Zotto - 3 Radko Gudas 55 Nick Schultz - 32 Mark Streit 23 Brandon Manning - 53 Shayne Gostisbehere [82 Evgeny Medvedev] 30 Michal Neuvirth / 35 Steve Mason Scratches: Matt Read or Evgeny Medvedev (healthy), Luke Schenn (healthy), Brandon Manning (healthy). Canadiens 67 Max Pacioretty - 14 Tomas Plekanec - 11 Brendan Gallagher 15 Tomas Fleischmann - 51 David Desharnais - 42 Sven Andrighetto or 21 D. Smith-Pelly 43 Daniel Carr - 27 Alex Galchenyuk - 81 Lars Eller 41 Paul Byron - 17 Torrey Mitchell - 32 Brian Flynn 28 Nathan Beaulieu - 76 P.K. Subban 79 Andrei Markov - 26 Jeff Petry 74 Alexei Emelin - 45 Mark Barberio 40 Ben Scrivens [39 Mike Condon] Scratches: one of Sven Andrighetto or Devante Smith-Pelly (healthy), Jarred Tinordi (healthy), Greg Pateryn (healthy), Carey Price (IR, right knee), Dale Weise (IR, right hand), Tom Gilbert (IR, lower body). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPuk Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 GO FLYERS !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 23 minutes ago, brelic said: Scratches: Matt Read or Evgeny Medvedev (healthy), Luke Schenn (healthy), Brandon Manning (healthy). Why would they scratch Read and let RJ play????? WTF? Scratch Medvedev and let Schultz play??? Who is making the the lineup FC!? That is a top #5 draft pick lineup...not a team trying to make the playoffs lineup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: Why would they scratch Read and let RJ play????? WTF? Scratch Medvedev and let Schultz play??? Who is making the the lineup FC!? That is a top #5 draft pick lineup...not a team trying to make the playoffs lineup! Come to the dark side OR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, flyercanuck said: Come to the dark side OR. I knew it was you..............what have you done to Hak???? Is it your Jedi mind trick??? Must be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Wait til Giroux is benched for Vinnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, brelic said: Meltzer's writeup: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-Meltzer/Flyers-Gameday-1516-vs-MTL/45/73738 Key team stat comparisons (NHL overall ranking) Non-shootout goals per game: Flyers 2.11 (29th), Canadiens 2.85 (T-4th) Non-shootout goals against per game: Flyers 2.68 (T-18th), Canadiens 2.45 (12th) 5-on-5 Goals For/Against Ratio: Flyers 49/55, Canadiens 73/65 Power play efficiency: Flyers 16.4% (27th), Canadiens 18.8% (17th) Penalty killing efficiency: Flyers 77.3% (26th), Canadiens 84.8% (4th) Shots per game: Flyers 30.1 (12th), Canadiens 31.4 (4th) Shots against per game: Flyers 32.6 (29th), Canadiens 27.7 (4th) Faceoff percentage: Flyers 49.5% (22nd), Canadiens 50.9% (9th) Projected lineups (subject to change, will be updated) Flyers 93 Jakub Voracek - 28 Claude Giroux - 17 Wayne Simmonds 12 Michael Raffl - 14 Sean Couturier - 10 Brayden Schenn 76 Chris VandeVelde - 78 Pierre-Edouard Bellemare - 25 Ryan White [24 Matt Read] - 21 Scott Laughton - 20 R.J. Umberger 15 Michael Del Zotto - 3 Radko Gudas 55 Nick Schultz - 32 Mark Streit 23 Brandon Manning - 53 Shayne Gostisbehere [82 Evgeny Medvedev] 30 Michal Neuvirth / 35 Steve Mason Scratches: Matt Read or Evgeny Medvedev (healthy), Luke Schenn (healthy), Brandon Manning (healthy). Canadiens 67 Max Pacioretty - 14 Tomas Plekanec - 11 Brendan Gallagher 15 Tomas Fleischmann - 51 David Desharnais - 42 Sven Andrighetto or 21 D. Smith-Pelly 43 Daniel Carr - 27 Alex Galchenyuk - 81 Lars Eller 41 Paul Byron - 17 Torrey Mitchell - 32 Brian Flynn 28 Nathan Beaulieu - 76 P.K. Subban 79 Andrei Markov - 26 Jeff Petry 74 Alexei Emelin - 45 Mark Barberio 40 Ben Scrivens [39 Mike Condon] Scratches: one of Sven Andrighetto or Devante Smith-Pelly (healthy), Jarred Tinordi (healthy), Greg Pateryn (healthy), Carey Price (IR, right knee), Dale Weise (IR, right hand), Tom Gilbert (IR, lower body). Did someone hack Meltzer's column? With the scratches listed, that means Vinnie is on the ice.........Perhaps this is the night of his career ending injury...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Is Hakstol really playing Manning over Medvedev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, RJ8812 said: Is Hakstol really playing Manning over Medvedev? Is Hakstol really playing Schultz over anybody? Not really a Schultz hater but he is the weakest link on this defense. I won't mind seeing Raffl creep a line or 2 lower to where he should be also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I like how Meltzer has Manning as playing third pairing AND a healthy scratch. That's talent right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briere48 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 i understand the hate for vinny, but why not at least give him a shot for one game with him centering voracek and simmonds? if that fails, then sit him. at least try to give some spark for the second line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, briere48 said: i understand the hate for vinny, but why not at least give him a shot for one game with him centering voracek and simmonds? if that fails, then sit him. at least try to give some spark for the second line. LOL!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briere48 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 minute ago, murraycraven said: LOL!!!! i dont know what you are laughing about, this offense cant score goals with what we have right now, you have a better plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 27 minutes ago, briere48 said: i dont know what you are laughing about, this offense cant score goals with what we have right now, you have a better plan? Yeah... to not take your advice and keep sitting Vinny. he is toast dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Vinny has been given chance after chance and has done nothing. Actually he's done less than nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineFlyFan Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 So let me get this straight....Read has 5G, 7A, and 61 shots and has struggled to find the net in the last 7 games. Umberger has 0G, 5A, and 25 shots and has struggled to find the net in the last 39 games. Logic says you sit Read in LA right? What gives Umberger such a long leash?!?! Has he even been a healthy scratch this year?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 12 minutes ago, MaineFlyFan said: So let me get this straight....Read has 5G, 7A, and 61 shots and has struggled to find the net in the last 7 games. Umberger has 0G, 5A, and 25 shots and has struggled to find the net in the last 39 games. Logic says you sit Read in LA right? What gives Umberger such a long leash?!?! Has he even been a healthy scratch this year?!?! Did you see Mathews, Puljujarvi, Laine, Juolevi, Tkachuk play at the WJs? All draft eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineFlyFan Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Did you see Mathews, Puljujarvi, Laine, Juolevi, Tkachuk play at the WJs? All draft eligible. If we become a "tank on purpose" organization... (cough....PENS....cough) I'm going elsewhere for my sports entertainment!! (Is the WWF still a thing?!? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 23 minutes ago, MaineFlyFan said: If we become a "tank on purpose" organization... (cough....PENS....cough) I'm going elsewhere for my sports entertainment!! (Is the WWF still a thing?!? ) Ya, I don't think there's an 'on purpose" thing going on. I'm as befuddled as anyone on some of these choices. But I do hope we grab someone of that calibre in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheslot Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Something in the wind ???? Go Fly Guy's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 hours ago, RJ8812 said: Vinny has been given chance after chance and has done nothing. Actually he's done less than nothing I dont think he can even keep up w/ line-mates at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 16 minutes ago, murraycraven said: I dont think he can even keep up w/ line-mates at this point. It's unfortunate that he just doesn't get it. I know that he's got millions of dollars left on the table, but seriously, you've made nearly $100m in your career, plus Tampa will be paying you millions over the next 10 years. Is it really worth it to travel from city to city, show up to practice every day and never play? Maybe to the average person, but to someone like him who has already had a long career? No. Do yourself (and the Flyers) a favour and retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 minute ago, RJ8812 said: It's unfortunate that he just doesn't get it. I know that he's got millions of dollars left on the table, but seriously, you've made nearly $100m in your career, plus Tampa will be paying your millions over the next 10 years. Is it really worth it to travel from city to city, show up to practice every day and never play? Maybe to the average person, but to someone like him who has already had a long career? No. Do yourself (and the Flyers) a favour and retire. Amen to that.... I don't get it either man. Such a great career to have it end that way is a shame. But he is the only one that controls that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, murraycraven said: Amen to that.... I don't get it either man. Such a great career to have it end that way is a shame. But he is the only one that controls that... Is it his pride and ego that he doesn't want to hurt? Seriously, to me, it takes a lot more pride to look yourself in the mirror and say that you can't do something anymore. Admitting you can't do something is a lot better for your pride then thinking you can and embarrassing yourself every time you try to do it. I'm sure Uncle Ed will set you up with a nice desk job (if he wants one) where he can get his money back somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 He's not going to retire. He's just not. He thinks he can still play. I gotta believe the Flyers will either buy him out this summer or retain an equivalent amount of salary to a buyout penalty to get him somewhere else. Please? What's really amazing is that D'oholmgren is still sitting there with a job in this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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