Howie58 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, AJgoal said: I agree. Between addition by subtraction and better d-pair balance, the defense should improve, though I expect ups and downs as the rookies adjust to the NHL. In theory it can't be much worse. Lindblom should slot in on the left wing, unless something crazy happens. If Hischier/Patrick makes the team out of camp, Filpulla likely moves to LW as well. Add to that the apparent likelihood that Weal is re-signed, andplayers are going to get pushed down the depth chart, and it will make the team better overall. AJ: I hope you are right.....our offense was no fun to watch and the PP was increasingly inept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poulin20 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 11 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: Wish mine was still here too.......Happy father's day to all. I figure this was as good as any to say this on!!! Wish mine was here too. Lost mine unexpectedly in 1999 when I was only 23 and it still stings to this day. I wish Gene Hart was still here too. I have a DVD of the first Flyers game I ever watched and attended in 1984 vs the Oilers (courtesy of the Flyers when I asked for it) and the thing that sticks out to me every time I watch, besides how fun 80s hockey was and how loud the spectrum used to be, was what an experience it was to listen to Gene call a game. It was like getting an education in hockey and being thouroughly entertained all at the same time. His style was so much less gratuitous than Dork Emrick the overrated hack who couldn't hold Gene's jock, let alone his microphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmatus Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I'm pretty sure it'll be Raffl or Weal. I guess there's always the chance Neuvirth gets picked, just given the history with McPhee, but I doubt it. It just wouldn't make any sense strategically. There's really nothing Read does that Raffl can't do better. PEB's a character guy and all, but he's not as useful as Raffl either. He's also getting paid too much for a fourth liner really. Raffl is the guy you take if you want someone who can play right now. He gives you solid flexibility to play whatever role you need, wherever you need him. Weal is the guy you take if you're hoping he can keep growing into a mid-trio scorer over the next couple years. I know some folks have mentioned MDZ, which is possible, but I think they'll have better dmen options elsewhere. Someone like Raffl makes more sense, as it will be much tougher to find that kind of player imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 So Vegas is asking twitter whom they should select from each team. I think it is our duty as fans to tell them to select Brian Rust and Andrew MacDonald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 On 6/18/2017 at 11:14 AM, AlaskaFlyerFan said: Eric Wellwood is on the list. Isn't he retired? I'm surprised that Laugton is protected but Weal is not. Weal is essentially protected without being on the list. By NOT signing him, Hextall has sent the message that he prefers to have Weal around and to NOT have vegas draft him. Vegas can't "own" him if he doesn't have a contract. I guess technically they can draft him, but as he's UFA, they still have to make him an offer and have him accept. They just get a couple of weeks head start on the rest of the league. I don't think that couple of weeks is going to make a difference. I think this is why you saw Hextall talking to his agent and no resolution coming yet. The Agent knows Hextall's on board, he knows what Hextall will offer, but he also knows it's in no one's best interest to sign the deal until after the vegas draft or Weal would just end up a golden knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, elmatus said: I'm pretty sure it'll be Raffl or Weal. I guess there's always the chance Neuvirth gets picked, just given the history with McPhee, but I doubt it. It just wouldn't make any sense strategically. There's really nothing Read does that Raffl can't do better. PEB's a character guy and all, but he's not as useful as Raffl either. He's also getting paid too much for a fourth liner really. Raffl is the guy you take if you want someone who can play right now. He gives you solid flexibility to play whatever role you need, wherever you need him. Weal is the guy you take if you're hoping he can keep growing into a mid-trio scorer over the next couple years. I know some folks have mentioned MDZ, which is possible, but I think they'll have better dmen options elsewhere. Someone like Raffl makes more sense, as it will be much tougher to find that kind of player imo. Makes no sense for Vegas to draft Weal. It would be a waste of a pick. Let's just call it what it is. Weal and Hextall probably have an agreement that they know it makes no sense for either party to sign officially until 7/1. They sign before then, Vegas takes him and they get him for whatever Hextall offered him. They don't sign him, they risk other teams making him a better offer including Vegas. I don't see that as a HUGE risk. The chances are good Hextall knows that whatever he offered Weal goes up a little after 7/1. No biggie. He's got the cap room this year. I'm about 70/30 that Weal is a Flyer next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 This is a random observation and I just didn't know where else to post it but I thought it was of note. Of the 11 players they are allowed to "protect" apparently the Blackhawks have 8 that they were REQUIRED to protect due to NMC's. That's just crazy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, King Knut said: This is a random observation and I just didn't know where else to post it but I thought it was of note. Of the 11 players they are allowed to "protect" apparently the Blackhawks have 8 that they were REQUIRED to protect due to NMC's. That's just crazy to me. They have really screwed themselves over. But I wouldn't be complaining if I had 3 cups in the last 10 year's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmatus Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, AJgoal said: So Vegas is asking twitter whom they should select from each team. I think it is our duty as fans to tell them to select Brian Rust and Andrew MacDonald. MacDu--onald is the real prize here after all. I can't imagine McPhee will overlook his remarkable useles--fulness. It would be a 'uge oversight. A disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, RJ8812 said: They have really screwed themselves over. But I wouldn't be complaining if I had 3 cups in the last 10 year's Most of them are guys I wouldn't mind being stuck with. Although I swear dropping $21 on two players is CA-RAZY town IMHO. I don't care who they are. Alternatively, they did get them both at just the right time in their careers. It's not like they signed them to those deals at 32 years old. I assume Vegas will draft Rozsival or TVR if they want to go with youth from the Blackhawks now. Not bad really. Better than the scraps and bitter herbs Hextall left for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly29 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 17 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: Hope it's not deep vein thrombosis!!! Nah just the ole back is fubar. Being a fat arse doesn't help either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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elmatus Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, AJgoal said: I think I just pissed myself. 10pts for Team TK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Who I'd like to see picked, in order of preference: MacDonald Bellemare Weise/Neuvirth Read Raffl In order of expectance: Raffl Bellemare Neuvirth Read Weise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, elmatus said: I think I just pissed myself. 10pts for Team TK! 3 minutes ago, AJgoal said: Who I'd like to see picked, in order of preference: MacDonald Bellemare Weise/Neuvirth Read Raffl In order of expectance: Raffl Bellemare Neuvirth Read Weise Mine: Preference: Neuvirth Bellemare Read MacDonald Raffl Weise Expect: Neuvirth Raffl Weise MacDonald Bellemare Read I don't like Mac at all, but I don't care about his salary as it means nothing to the team anymore and unless they bring in someone like Oduya, I'll feel a LOT better if there aren't three rookies,a 20 year old (even if he is Provo), Ghost and Gudas playing behind our blue line this season. There's a lot MacDonald's terrible at, but mostly he's just serviceable and that's hard to accept for so many of us considering his salary. But if you take his salary out of the equation (because it simply doesn't matter anymore) It's going to be way too easy for seasoned vets and annoying SOB's to game and get under the skin of that Flyers Defense. More than muscle, more than size more than skill, this team needs a season or two of guidance and experience with that sort of crap in order to let it roll off their skin. Otherwise you have Laughton trying to take Down Niskanen again and McDavid complaining about Manning (and watching him out of the corner of his eye). I think about TK and the abuse he took this year too. We just need some kind of guiding force to help them through the transition on the ice. There are better options all over the NHL, but short of bringing them in, I don't want to lose the closest thing the Flyers have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Just now, King Knut said: There's a lot MacDonald's terrible at, but mostly he's just serviceable and that's hard to accept for so many of us considering his salary. But if you take his salary out of the equation (because it simply doesn't matter anymore) It's going to be way too easy for seasoned vets and annoying SOB's to game and get under the skin of that Flyers Defense. More than muscle, more than size more than skill, this team needs a season or two of guidance and experience with that sort of crap in order to let it roll off their skin. Otherwise you have Laughton trying to take Down Niskanen again and McDavid complaining about Manning (and watching him out of the corner of his eye). I think about TK and the abuse he took this year too. We just need some kind of guiding force to help them through the transition on the ice. There are better options all over the NHL, but short of bringing them in, I don't want to lose the closest thing the Flyers have. All of that is valid, and I don't believe MacDonald needs to go for the team to have success in the near future. But that doesn't make MacDonald's cap hit desirable. If he goes, you can bring in a veteran who's likely an upgrade on shorter term at a lower cap hit to fill that veteran mentor role through either free agency, or a trade if you want a higher quality player. It's not as if MacDonald disappearing from the team means that there's nobody who could fill that role - they just aren't on the roster as currently constructed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmatus Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 45 minutes ago, AJgoal said: Who I'd like to see picked, in order of preference: MacDonald Bellemare Weise/Neuvirth Read Raffl In order of expectance: Raffl Bellemare Neuvirth Read Weise This is about spot on from where I'm sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Guess I may be in the minority but I don't expect Neuvirth to be taken. There are better options out there for them in goal. I also read they may take Del Zotto as their PP quarterback. Maybe Hexy has a hand shake agreement with Vegas to select MDZ thus leaving the Flyers roster intact? If that conspiracy theory were true the Flyers would probably have to send a pick their way as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 That would be an interesting and not unbelievable development. MDZ still could be a good value player, and Vegas is not a bad landing place for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 hours ago, AJgoal said: That would be an interesting and not unbelievable development. MDZ still could be a good value player, and Vegas is not a bad landing place for him. Sure. Gambling, booze, hookers, porn stars and just general temptations everywhere you look. What could POSSIBLY go wrong with MDZ in the city of sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, TropicalFruitGirl26 said: Sure. Gambling, booze, hookers, porn stars and just general temptations everywhere you look. What could POSSIBLY go wrong with MDZ in the city of sin? Not sure he'd consider any of that wrong. Hence, perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 34 minutes ago, AJgoal said: Not sure he'd consider any of that wrong. Hence, perfect! He can focus on his DJ career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 fkn NHL I don't want to have to sit through the borefest NHL awards to see the expansion draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 16 hours ago, AJgoal said: Who I'd like to see picked, in order of preference: MacDonald Bellemare Weise/Neuvirth Read Raffl In order of expectance: Raffl Bellemare Neuvirth Read Weise Man, you nailed my list as well... could not agree more with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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