AJgoal Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Surprising to see Alt claimed, not surprised at picking up Oduya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Pretty lateral move if you ask me. He probably doesn't play over Manning All we did was just change our 7th defenseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Very minor cap implications here for anyone keeping track at home. Oduya is a $1 million cap hit, and is UFA at the end of the season. Alt made $650,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 They picked up a veteran dman with a lot off playoff experience for nothing. Good insurance policy in the event of injury. I agree he will likely be the 7th based on Hak’s love for Manning but Oduya can be another experienced voice in the room and possible mentor to the Flyers youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, RJ8812 said: Pretty lateral move if you ask me. He probably doesn't play over Manning All we did was just change our 7th defenseman Rumors are Alt was waived for cap reasons involved in a potential trade at some point today. They lose Alt in the waive, they pick up Oduya to have a 7th D man again. Of course the problem with that is that Oduya makes more money, so this clears no cap room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Samifan said: They picked up a veteran dman with a lot off playoff experience for nothing. Good insurance policy in the event of injury. I agree he will likely be the 7th based on Hak’s love for Manning but Oduya can be another experienced voice in the room and possible mentor to the Flyers youngsters. Did I hear "mentor for the youngsters?" Can we lose the other one, then? All joking aside, hard not to like the Oduya acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, AJgoal said: Did I hear "mentor for the youngsters?" Can we lose the other one, then? All joking aside, hard not to like the Oduya acquisition. I, for one, will not put all joking aside and will run "Oduya now" into the ground given the opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, King Knut said: Rumors are Alt was waived for cap reasons involved in a potential trade at some point today. They lose Alt in the waive, they pick up Oduya to have a 7th D man again. Of course the problem with that is that Oduya makes more money, so this clears no cap room. Flyers had 8 million in cap space, adding 650k wasn't going to be a big deal. And it's not like they're going to be surprised that they have to pick up Oduya's hit. But they had to have a compliant roster, which meant someone had to go down if they were awarded Oduya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, AJgoal said: Did I hear "mentor for the youngsters?" Can we lose the other one, then? All joking aside, hard not to like the Oduya acquisition. I wanted him last off season. Of course, I was happier that Sanheim made the club and that Morin would have had he not been hurt, but I'd much rather have had Oduya all year than Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I hope Alt gets a legit shot elsewhere... it wasn't going to happen here. Oduya is a perfect #7 depth pick up and costs no assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, AJgoal said: Flyers had 8 million in cap space, adding 650k wasn't going to be a big deal. And it's not like they're going to be surprised that they have to pick up Oduya's hit. But they had to have a compliant roster, which meant someone had to go down if they were awarded Oduya. Their cap space is actually a lot lower, under 2 million after projected bonuses and what not. Is that how the timing worked out? Which was waived first? Do we know exact timings? If Oduya gets waived first, then it makes sense that Hextall says to himself, "I want that guy, let's put Alt back in the AHL... oh darn, we lost Alt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, King Knut said: Their cap space is actually a lot lower, under 2 million after projected bonuses and what not. Is that how the timing worked out? Which was waived first? Do we know exact timings? If Oduya gets waived first, then it makes sense that Hextall says to himself, "I want that guy, let's put Alt back in the AHL... oh darn, we lost Alt." Well, waiving Alt probably had more to do with AHL playoff eligibility than necessarily clearing a roster space, but it did give him some flexibility when Oduya hit the wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Also, they're not paying out nearly the projected bonus sum that it up there. Patrcik has a bonus number of 2.65, and given his slow start, he won't make most of the milestones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vis Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Good pickup. Alt missed his window here and then got lost in the numbers game. Hope he gets a shot in Colorado. Oduya is a perfect 7th d-man. Been through the battles and adds another vet voice in the locker room. I think Manning is still the 6th dman, though. Also think Hextall is done dealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineFlyFan Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Johhny Oduya!?!......by far my wife's FAVORITE hockey player! I see her first Jersey in the future!..... (She doesn't even follow hockey (or any sports for that matter)!... heard the announcers saying his name one night during a Devil's game and apparently got a real kick out of it!....she's never let it go. She will be happy she gets to hear that name more now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, MaineFlyFan said: Johhny Oduya!?!......by far my wife's FAVORITE hockey player! I see her first Jersey in the future!..... (She doesn't even follow hockey (or any sports for that matter)!... heard the announcers saying his name one night during a Devil's game and apparently got a real kick out of it!....she's never let it go. She will be happy she gets to hear that name more now! -"I really like Johnny Oduya." -"Oh... do ya?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan4ever Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, MaineFlyFan said: Johhny Oduya!?!......by far my wife's FAVORITE hockey player! I see her first Jersey in the future!..... (She doesn't even follow hockey (or any sports for that matter)!... heard the announcers saying his name one night during a Devil's game and apparently got a real kick out of it!....she's never let it go. She will be happy she gets to hear that name more now! Will he be a Flyer long enough for her to even get a jersey????? I have always gotten a kick out of his name as well!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyersFan4Life Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Not a bad move I trust him over McDud. Be pretty sweet if they got jagr since the Flames let him walk. That would be a nasty PowerPlay with him on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 51 minutes ago, King Knut said: Rumors are Alt was waived for cap reasons involved in a potential trade at some point today. They lose Alt in the waive, they pick up Oduya to have a 7th D man again. Of course the problem with that is that Oduya makes more money, so this clears no cap room. Never heard that rumour. Alt was waived so he could be eligible for the Phantoms playoff roster. He would have been immediately recalled but not anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Samifan said: They picked up a veteran dman with a lot off playoff experience for nothing. Good insurance policy in the event of injury. I agree he will likely be the 7th based on Hak’s love for Manning but Oduya can be another experienced voice in the room and possible mentor to the Flyers youngsters. I hear he is a wiz with the popcorn machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 hours ago, RJ8812 said: Never heard that rumour. Alt was waived so he could be eligible for the Phantoms playoff roster. He would have been immediately recalled but not anymore That makes more sense. I read it on Twitter. Forget who, but I don't follow the whackos. Hextall says that they put in the claim on Oduya before knowing anyone claimed Alt, so one literally had nothing to do with the other. Which is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Read recalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, King Knut said: That makes more sense. I read it on Twitter. Forget who, but I don't follow the whackos. Hextall says that they put in the claim on Oduya before knowing anyone claimed Alt, so one literally had nothing to do with the other. Which is interesting. Maybe they were planning on keeping Alt down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, RJ8812 said: Maybe they were planning on keeping Alt down? He said they just wanted more depth in general. Seems like overkill, but essentially he seemed to feel like Oduya made a nice safety net in case of multiple injuries. He probably would have been ahead of alt in the depth chart, but if you have an injury, who you replace that player with depends on the role. You wouldn't replace Gudas with Sanheim for instance, or Ghost with Alt. Doing those things would require too much adjustment to the overall approach which is working so well. I think the idea would have been for Alt to play for the Phantoms unless they needed him. Hopefully he gets a nice shot with the Avalanche. Hextall still seems comfortable with what they have depth wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I'm glad Ron kept the roster like it was. I would have prefered to jettison some junk...but they have managed with the junk all season i guess they can still manage. A lot of big moves to day Tampa and Preds look destined to met in the finals...however after all that has been done to their teams the pressure went up too. This year just isn't the Flyer's year opening yet. Not to knock them they will be lucky to still make the playoffs...a tough schedule ahead. Ron held his pieces together for another year to grow and get better towards the goal....i think their window will start to open in 2020-21. Once some of the clutter is cleared from the roster. The Flyer's main thing is make the playoffs and you never know...underdogs have won it all in Philly before. These kids need playoff experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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