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They Were Once Wild: The Star Talent that Passed Through Minnesota

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In this retrospective, I look back at the Star talent that was not drafted by the team and stayed here less than 5 seasons.  Collectively its not a bad team I put together, but too bad we didn't get most of them when they were in their prime.  Check it out and discuss.  

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Hard to really start arguing about the players you selected. That's a well constructed  group.

 

On the top of my head I'll say: Devin Setoguchi. I don't think the Wild got what they wanted out of him or just couldn't find a role for him. He WAS in his prime, 24 years old and having scored 73 goals combined in the three previous seasons when joining the Wild. But nothing would come of it. He should've been a top 6 forward for a few years. But I guess since he failed after that elsewhere too his years with the Sharks were more or less a fluke.

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If you want to include a cheapshot on the team you could possibly include Matt Cooke.

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Thanks LIG. Another player who came into my mind was Guillaume Latendresse. I think he was a pretty talented player. The first season he played for the Wild team was very promising and extremely impressing by his scoring ability and his nice size always creating some tension around the net, but continuous injuries practically destroyed his talent and character as well. Wikipedia wrote about his career  an interesting  article including his especially initial impressing stats for Drummondville Voltigeurs team. He was noticeable as a player for the Montreal Canadiens too. 
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17 hours ago, Alexandron said:

Thanks LIG. Another player who came into my mind was Guillaume Latendresse. I think he was a pretty talented player. The first season he played for the Wild team was very promising and extremely impressing by his scoring ability and his nice size always creating some tension around the net, but continuous injuries practically destroyed his talent and character as well. Wikipedia wrote about his career  an interesting  article including his especially initial impressing stats for Drummondville Voltigeurs team. He was noticeable as a player for the Montreal Canadiens too. 
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If I remember right Latendresse got wrecked by a heaping bowl of poutine...

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Latendresse had talent for sure but I don't think he even had a breakthrough year...

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"Star Talent that passed through Minnesota"...

 

"Matt Cooke"...

 

#theeuphemismofalltime

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5 hours ago, Hockey-78 said:

"Star Talent that passed through Minnesota"...

 

"Matt Cooke"...

 

#theeuphemismofalltime

OK, maybe it was a bit of a stretch...

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It’s so sad that so many of those players were either played out of position, or told to play a different game from what made their career. 

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Gotta love Fletcher signing Baby Wilds OReilly, Fitzgerald to contracts, as well as Prosser, for his AHL Phantoms. And Chris Stewart to a Flyer tryout. Heard he's asking around for Stephane Vielleux's phone number ........

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19 minutes ago, Icechipper said:

Gotta love Fletcher signing Baby Wilds OReilly, Fitzgerald to contracts, as well as Prosser, for his AHL Phantoms. And Chris Stewart to a Flyer tryout. Heard he's asking around for Stephane Vielleux's phone number ........

Well, he is familiar these guys. I don’t blame him with going with what he knows. O’Reilly is going to be tough to replace in Iowa. Good signing for Lehigh Valley...

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17 hours ago, sweetshot said:

OK, maybe it was a bit of a stretch...

Maybe it was.

 

I can give you though; as a POS cheapshot artist easily in the TOP10 of all time. If he wanted to be a star talent as a slimeball, he succeeded.

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17 hours ago, Tomdog said:

It’s so sad that so many of those players were either played out of position, or told to play a different game from what made their career. 

You know Tom, I kind of agree and don't agree.

 

It's true some of them didn't find a role due to reasons unrelated to them.

 

But many of those players were acquired clearly past their prime. Some of them ended their career or found themselves in Europe after their stint with the Wild. It wasn't the Wild coach's or organization's fault in that respect that those players didn't get anything done in Minnesota. They just were through as top pros, they couldn't pull of the next gig nor get a decent contract anywhere else either.

 

"Played out of position or told to play different game"... which players did you specifically have in mind?

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Fletch reunites with as many players as Fenton!

 

A common strategy but is it any good?

Who's the copycat?

Do they eat the same cereals?

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18 minutes ago, Hockey-78 said:

Fletch reunites with as many players as Fenton!

 

A common strategy but is it any good?

Who's the copycat?

Do they eat the same cereals?

 

Yes, it's called "Booty O's" and is sold by the WWE.

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17 hours ago, Hockey-78 said:

You know Tom, I kind of agree and don't agree.

 

It's true some of them didn't find a role due to reasons unrelated to them.

 

But many of those players were acquired clearly past their prime. Some of them ended their career or found themselves in Europe after their stint with the Wild. It wasn't the Wild coach's or organization's fault in that respect that those players didn't get anything done in Minnesota. They just were through as top pros, they couldn't pull of the next gig nor get a decent contract anywhere else either.

 

"Played out of position or told to play different game"... which players did you specifically have in mind?

Pavel dametry comes to mind first.  Told to play center With Jacques’s defense first center system when he clearly was an offense first winger. 

Many of the scorers had the same issue. Stop trying to score if it ment any chance the puck goes the other way. 

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On 7/21/2019 at 6:13 PM, sweetshot said:

If you want to include a cheapshot on the team you could possibly include Matt Cooke.

 

In full disclosure...I did have Setoguchi and Cooke in the original version.  Yet as I thought and considered names from the past and since I wanted the 'best' Wild team I could make of people that fit the requirements I swapped them out.  

 

Setoguchi SHOULD have been able to make this list...but the career numbers just didn't pan out after that promising 1st season.  Cullen certainly demonstrates how longevity and consistency (albeit modest totals) can help someone pile up the points.  

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On 7/24/2019 at 6:09 AM, Tomdog said:

Pavel dametry comes to mind first.  Told to play center With Jacques’s defense first center system when he clearly was an offense first winger. 

Many of the scorers had the same issue. Stop trying to score if it ment any chance the puck goes the other way. 

 

(shrugs)  I am more with Hockey78 on this one.  By the time we got most of these players listed their best days were past them.  They were a step or three slower and they couldn't do what they used to do in many cases so they were relegated to Power Play specialists.  Of that team I put together, only Rolston and to a lesser extent Daigle outperformed their expectations.  

 

Brian Rolston is my favorite Wild player of all time.  Consistent, a leader...didn't complain and I didn't hold it against him for wanting to be paid since we got him on a bargain deal.  But interestingly, that Wild team let Rolston go.  This Wild team, sort of in a similar situation with Eric Staal...after having a terrible season (after a really good one the year before) we locked him up for two more years.  

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On 7/20/2019 at 1:05 PM, Hockey-78 said:

Hard to really start arguing about the players you selected. That's a well constructed  group.

 

On the top of my head I'll say: Devin Setoguchi. I don't think the Wild got what they wanted out of him or just couldn't find a role for him. He WAS in his prime, 24 years old and having scored 73 goals combined in the three previous seasons when joining the Wild. But nothing would come of it. He should've been a top 6 forward for a few years. But I guess since he failed after that elsewhere too his years with the Sharks were more or less a fluke.

 

Setoguchi  was fighting a raging alcohol problem.   That sad story came out a long time ago.

 

You all apparently have a very different idea of what constitutes a "Star" or "Star Talent."

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Its obviously relative to what our team is.   But these are the most statistically significant players that fit the parameters I set.  

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19 hours ago, Fargocase said:

 

Setoguchi  was fighting a raging alcohol problem.   That sad story came out a long time ago.

 

You all apparently have a very different idea of what constitutes a "Star" or "Star Talent."

So?! The star talent was there. Untalented players don't score 31 goals in a season. Abusing substances doesn't preclude having talent. Ask Theo Fleury or Grant Fuhr.

 

I've come to the conclusion that when speaking about different ideas of anything you're in your own class. Or galaxy.

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No one who knows anything about the NHL would consider Seto a "Star " in any sense of the word or in any context relating to him and the NHL.

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2 minutes ago, Fargocase said:

No one who knows anything about the NHL would consider Seto a "Star " in any sense of the word or in any context relating to him and the NHL.

I bet $1 mil. you can NEVER prove that claim.

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44 minutes ago, Fargocase said:

No one who knows anything about the NHL would consider Seto a "Star " in any sense of the word or in any context relating to him and the NHL.

 

I simply tried to create the best Wild team I could with the parameters I set.  The defense for this team is nothing to get excited about and calling any of them stars is a gross overstatement.  Yet if I want anyone to read it...star talent sounds better than the average to above average talent that passed through the Minnesota Wild.  I could've stuck to just forwards and its a more respectable team, but since I drafted a full team with my obscurity team...i thought might as well draft a full squad again.  

 

 

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I've researched exWild players many times.  Crazy that so much time has passed since we were trying to guess who would be the first Wild Captain.

 

Here's an exWild player who I thought turned out to be an above average defenseman - Andy Sutton.  Huge and super raw.  Lemaire played him at forward and D but Risebrough traded him too early.  Was pretty good for Nashville.  I don't remember if you mentioned them but Joel Ward and the defenseman Michalek went on to have good careers after a cup of coffee with the Wild.  I'd say Nick Leddy would also be on the list of players mistakenly traded.  IMO good chance Tuch will turn out to be the biggest Eff Up, along with losing Gaborik as an UFA.

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