Samifan Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 If Chuckles is sent packing, who do you want to see come in as the GM to try and fix this s**tshow? Another Former Flyer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Dave Paul Scott Holmgren 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Samifan said: If Chuckles is sent packing, who do you want to see come in as the GM to try and fix this s**tshow? Another Former Flyer? Sigh. Really doesn't matter, does it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: Sigh. Really doesn't matter, does it? It really doesn't. Same circus, run by the same dumb a*s clowns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesesteak Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Yzerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Cheesesteak said: Yzerman He isn’t leaving the Red Wings organization, anytime soon. Plus, why would he work with the special brand of idiots, running the Flyers front office? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, FD19372 said: He isn’t leaving the Red Wings organization, anytime soon. Plus, why would he work with the special brand of idiots, running the Flyers front office? If he left a cup contender that he built for Detroit, he sure as hell isn't leaving Detroit for the moldering pile of rancid skunk shite known as the Flyers. Edited December 18, 2021 by flyercanuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesesteak Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 4 hours ago, FD19372 said: He isn’t leaving the Red Wings organization, anytime soon. Plus, why would he work with the special brand of idiots, running the Flyers front office? Oh, there's no way in H E Double Hockey Sticks he'd ever come here, but I was just answering the question I would like to see Tocchet as the coach bring back the Flyers spirit if possible but... I truly don't know if a GM can make a difference or a new coach, as long as ownership isn't vested in the team other than a bottom line in their investment ledger, I don't know what can fix the team. The loss of Snider may not be able to be overcome. Happy Holidays 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Cheesesteak said: Yzerman Yzerman was available when the Flyers hired Chuckles, IIRC. Homer probably didn’t even talk to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said: Yzerman was available when the Flyers hired Chuckles, IIRC. Homer probably didn’t even talk to him. I don't think he was ever not going to go to Detroit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomdog Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I don't really care as long as it isn't Bill Guerin. First really good GM the wild has had. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ruxpin said: I don't think he was ever not going to go to Detroit. 100% agree. But at least talk to the guy. The same thing happened when AV was hired. Joel Quenneville, (before the sexual assault controversy was known), was available but they didn't even talk to him. If they at least talk to them and they say they aren't interested, then move on. Stop settling for second or third best as your first option. Edited December 19, 2021 by AlaskaFlyerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 11 hours ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said: 100% agree. But at least talk to the guy. The same thing happened when AV was hired. Joel Quenneville, (before the sexual assault controversy was known), was available but they didn't even talk to him. If they at least talk to them and they say they aren't interested, then move on. Stop settling for second or third best as your first option. Fletcher is NOT 2nd or 3rd best. He's an NHL GM for one reason....his dad. People keep thinking they're hiring Cliff, then Chuck shows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 8 hours ago, flyercanuck said: Fletcher is NOT 2nd or 3rd best. He's an NHL GM for one reason....his dad. People keep thinking they're hiring Cliff, then Chuck shows up. I didn’t mean to insinuate Fletcher was 2nd or 3rd best. I was more referring to the available coaches at that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post radoran Posted December 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2021 20 hours ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said: Joel Quenneville, (before the sexual assault controversy was known), was available but they didn't even talk to him. Quenneville was always going to Florida and wouldn't talk to them. It wasn't a "if he says no" he said "no" to even talking to them. Which says a TON about how this organization* is viewed in the league... This isn't a top choice of players or coaches any more. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, radoran said: Quenneville was always going to Florida and wouldn't talk to them. It wasn't a "if he says no" he said "no" to even talking to them. Which says a TON about how this organization* is viewed in the league... This isn't a top choice of players or coaches any more. This is what I remember. Fletcher needed permission from the Blackhawks to talk to Q. He never asked. Water under the bridge now. https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2018/12/17/18145128/flyers-general-manager-chuck-fletcher-talks-blackhawks-joel-quenneville-nhl-2018 Edited December 20, 2021 by AlaskaFlyerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said: This is what I remember. Fletcher needed permission from the Blackhawks to talk to Q. He never asked. Water under the bridge now. https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2018/12/17/18145128/flyers-general-manager-chuck-fletcher-talks-blackhawks-joel-quenneville-nhl-2018 I get that. Quenneville had a relationship with Dale Tallon that made it pretty clear he was going to Florida. Fletcher could have formally "asked" and risked being turned down flat. So he didn't. "Quenneville hired as Panthers coach" https://www.nhl.com/news/joel-quenneville-hired-as-florida-coach/c-306572790 The Flyers are simply not the slam dunk go-to team any more. The last two "big name" FAs that signed here are Hayes and JVR - and we see how that's gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, radoran said: The Flyers are simply not the slam dunk go-to team any more. And that is a problem…. Inquiring minds want to know…. Why do you think that is and when do you think this started to occur….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizz Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, radoran said: I get that. Quenneville had a relationship with Dale Tallon that made it pretty clear he was going to Florida. Fletcher could have formally "asked" and risked being turned down flat. So he didn't. "Quenneville hired as Panthers coach" https://www.nhl.com/news/joel-quenneville-hired-as-florida-coach/c-306572790 The Flyers are simply not the slam dunk go-to team any more. The last two "big name" FAs that signed here are Hayes and JVR - and we see how that's gone... Lol it's funny you think those two scabs are big name FAs. Not bringing in FA talent is a product of an incompetent GM not a factor of a team or city. In the new NHL money talks. Talent will go where they get paid. Fletcher has proven he can't sign talent because he over pays for scabs like JVR and Hayes. Then gives away assets for next to no return. Any GM worth his salt would have contacted Quinvill even if he 99% sure he wouldn't come to Philly. Until Fletcher is gone and a competent GM is brought in you can expect the paying top FA money to middle of the road players will continue.....it is the Fletcher way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fizz said: Lol it's funny you think those two scabs are big name FAs. I don't. That was the point. Try to keep up here. Edited December 20, 2021 by radoran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, pilldoc said: Why do you think that is and when do you think this started to occur….. Ten years and one playoff round win? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizz Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, radoran said: I don't. That was the point. Try to keep up here. Not sure you understand how free agency works and how a good GM uses it to improve his team. Like I said it has absolutely nothing to do with the team or the city. Saying top FAs don't want to come to the Flyers is just plain wrong They go where the money is. Fletcher paying JVR and Hayes to top money long term contracts is the problem not the franchise. Hell Fletcher couldn't even be bothered to try and talk to Quinvill he just hires a has been like AV, no wonder he can't build a winner here. Try and keep up okay. Edited December 20, 2021 by Fizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fizz said: Fletcher paying JVR and Hayes to top money long term contracts is the problem not the franchise. Try and keep up okay. Hextall signed JVR. No, really. Go on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizz Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, radoran said: Hextall signed JVR. No, really. Go on... Okay, I was just going off your post above, my bad. But blaming the franchise for top FAs not coming here instead of placing the blame on an obvious inept GM is just wrong. This roster is such a mess, loaded with overpaid mediocre players with no-trade-clauses in their contracts, and few assets coming up it will take a top GM 5 years to fix it. Fletcher is not even in the top 50% of GMs in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Fizz said: But blaming the franchise for top FAs not coming here instead of placing the blame on an obvious inept GM is just wrong. Right the whole point that a top FA hasn't come here in 10 years is completely irrelevant. Go on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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