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‘If they want to throw their s–t on the ice, that’s up to them.’ Canucks’ J.T. Miller reacts to fans throwing jerseys

 

Canucks fans booed and threw jerseys on the ice following the team's home-opener loss on Saturday.

 

 

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J.T. Miller (Bob Frid-USA TODAY Sports)

Will the Vancouver Canucks’ despair ever bottom out? Every day so far in this nightmarish season, it’s another embarrassing loss, another blown lead, another demoralizing comment from a star player.

 

The latest came from center J.T. Miller Monday when asked for his reaction to the team’s home-opener loss to the Buffalo Sabres over the weekend. After a disastrous 0-3-2 road trip to start their 2022-23 season, the Canucks returned to Rogers Arena to battle a Buffalo Sabres team playing its third leg of a Western road trip.

 

The Canucks ate a 5-1 beating, falling to 0-4-2 on the season. The home crowd booed the Canucks off the ice, and some disgusted fans resorted to throwing jerseys on the ice.

 

Miller commented on the jersey throwing Monday following the team’s morning skate leading up to its game against the Carolina Hurricanes.

 

“If they want to throw their **** on the ice it’s up to them…” Miller told reporters. “If they want to come to the game, spend all that money and throw their gear on the ice that’s up to them.”

 

Miller, 29, has been a lightning rod for criticism around the team early this season after he signed a seven-year, $56 million extension with an $8 million AAV in the summer following a career year in which he had 99 points. The deal doesn’t commence until next season. Miller, who has two goals and three points through six games, has been on the ice for 14 goals against versus four goals for this season and has been openly critical of his own play.

 

“I’m not gonna sit here to talk about how we played when I can’t even lead by example right now” he said after the team’s first two losses earlier this month “…I just feel like I’m a little irrelevant. Being on the ice for every goal, I don’t know what to say.”

 

Canucks captain Bo Horvat has also expressed hopelessness over the team’s start, claiming after Saturday’s defeat that a win feels like it’s “never going to happen.”

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While starting with a 0-5-2 record is concerning, that's not the worst part (The Stars went 1-7-1 in 2019 before reaching the playoffs). The main problem is that the Canucks blew multigoal leads in six of these seven games and that an all-time NHL record.

 

It's quite head-scratching, knowing that they were really good from the time Boudreau took over the team.

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49 minutes ago, Math said:

While starting with a 0-5-2 record is concerning, that's not the worst part (The Stars went 1-7-1 in 2019 before reaching the playoffs). The main problem is that the Canucks blew multigoal leads in six of these seven games and that an all-time NHL record.

 

It's quite head-scratching, knowing that they were really good from the time Boudreau took over the team.

 

I've been following these 'Nucks pretty well over the last three seasons or so.

While I feel they shouldn't be winless, IMO, it is NOT AT ALL head scratching why: They are too easy to play against.
They have the offensive players, they should be highly motivated as Bruce Boudreau seems to let his players "be themselves" on the ice....or so, that is what players said and liked about him when he took over.
And they even have a pretty solid goalie in Thatcher Demko who has shown in the past he can absolutely steal games if need be.

But that defense....oh my....
I've said for a long time now that they are just too damned soft.
Outside of Luke Schenn, there really isn't a defensemen that seems to strike worry into opposing forwards with regards to being punished for entering the zone and making plays.
And even Schenn himself, a prolific hitter, isn't the fleetest of foot, so the better and faster forwards can usually work around him.

Teams come in too hot, too fast and overwhelm the Vancouver goal.....which is probably why we are seeing the team jump out to leads (that good offense), but have lots of trouble keeping those leads (the defense simply isn't stout enough).

I'm not sure there is an easy fix to this either.

The personnel that are there are geared more towards scoring goals and not really about locking games down when a lead is established.
Sure, one could always point to Demko himself and say, "Yea, but why doesn't he stop the puck?", and that would be valid, but fact is, he isn't getting a ton of help from his defense, often being left to face the brunt of the opposing attacks mostly on his own.

It's pretty obvious the players like playing for Coach Boudreau, and Boudreau's on ice philosophy has always leaned towards the offensive side of things with defense usually being just "ok" (just look at his past Capitals and Ducks teams), but this Vancouver bunch doesn't seem to be able to play even "ok" defense.

Gonna be hard to win in this league playing as they are, constructed as they are.
I don't have a possible answer.
These guys are supposed to be set to compete now...not in 3 or 4 years. They have highly paid, in their prime players and shouldn't be on the  hunt for a draft lottery position.

Yet there they are...winless, hapless, and right now, defenseless too!

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1 hour ago, Math said:

While starting with a 0-5-2 record is concerning, that's not the worst part (The Stars went 1-7-1 in 2019 before reaching the playoffs). The main problem is that the Canucks blew multigoal leads in six of these seven games and that an all-time NHL record.

 

It's quite head-scratching, knowing that they were really good from the time Boudreau took over the team.

 

I guess they aren't going to just let Arizona tank their way to Bedard with out a fight.

 

We'll see who tank game is the strongest.

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18 minutes ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said:

I've been following these 'Nucks pretty well over the last three seasons or so.

 

Some secrets you wanna share...? 😉

 

Thanks a lot for your input. You're right, not much weight and grit behind, and if your lone physical guy is not getting the job done, then you may have six healthy Hughes and nine Petterssons, that would be a good recipe for disaster. 

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I've said the same before, and agree with @TropicalFruitGirl26: I like the forwards ability to score, but I don't like the defensive side of their game very much, and I think their blueline is really bad.

 

@OccamsRazorI'm sure that you're kidding much more than you're serious about it, but the Canucks definitely aren't tanking. They're trying to win, and have had multiple leads go up in smoke. They can't defend.

 

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Is it me or did I just notice Mike Yeo next to Boudreau on the Nucks' bench...?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting anything related to their 0-7 start. Absolutely not :InnocentSmiley:

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