Michkov Updates .......

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

It's the Russian version of "The Shift."

[ctid]

9 hours ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

It's the Russian version of "The Shift."

Still not as good as Mike Richards'. That was truly special.

 

Speaking about "The Shift", I'm trying to find a link to JVR's shift. Cup run in '10 against Bruins. He played like a possessed man, physically dominating and agressive. Never seen anything like that from him since unfortunately. But if anyone has a link to that, please post it.

[flyercanuck]

10 minutes ago, ctid said:

Still not as good as Mike Richards'. That was truly special.

 

Speaking about "The Shift", I'm trying to find a link to JVR's shift. Cup run in '10 against Bruins. He played like a possessed man, physically dominating and agressive. Never seen anything like that from him since unfortunately. But if anyone has a link to that, please post it.

 

I have it in my head. It's hard to believe a guy could watch himself do that, yet have an entire career as a slug.

[ctid]

Closest thing I found is this article referencing his dominant play in the playoffs where he was the Flyers' best player. What on earth happened to him??

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/825259-philadelphia-flyers-james-van-riemsdyk-ready-to-be-a-superstar

[SCFlyguy]

Someone get @flyercanuck some meds before he reads that.

[flyercanuck]

Pretty funny reading that article now....the guy never used his size to his full advantage, his speed disappeared, his ppg dropped significantly in postseason, it seemed most of his goals were scored picking up rebounds at the side of the net, and two way player and leader....LMFAO!!!!!

[Podein25]

2 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

two way player

 

I think maybe this was misinterpreted. You see, when he's standing in front of the net looking for tips, he can turn his stick this way, or he can turn in that way. Two way player.

[flyercanuck]

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Alexander Appleyard

 

@avappleyard

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.@NHLFlyers Matvei Michkov went top 5 all-time today for @khl points before age 20 season...

1. Kucherov: 81 in 128 (0.63 P/GP)

2. Kaprizov: 77 in 133 (0.58)

3. Tarasenko: 53 in 122 (0.43)

4. Buchnevich: 50 in 100 (0.50)

5. Michkov: 37 in 54 (0.69) #Flyers #NHL #KHL

 

 

 

not mentioned is he leads in ppg.

 

Edited October 8, 2023 by flyercanuck

[OccamsRazor]

All the kids at once...

 

 

Flyers prospects point totals:

 

Matvei Michkov 11 GP, 5G, 7A (KHL)

Ryan MacPherson 6 GP, 6G, 2A (BCHL)

Massimo Rizzo 2 GP, 0G, 7A (NCAA)

Alex Ciernik 6 GP, 3G, 2A (SWE)

Denver Barkey 5 GP, 2G, 4A (OHL)

Carter Sotheran 3 GP, 1G, 2A (WHL)

Oliver Bonk 5 GP, 0G, 3A (OHL)

Cutter Gauthier 1 GP, 1G, 0A (NCAA)

Cole Knuble 2GP, 0G, 0A (NCAA)

Matteo Mann 0GP, 0G, 0A (QMJHL)

 

Goalies:

Yegor Zavragin 5 GP, 1.38 GAA, .958 SV% (MHL)

Alexei Kolosov 9 GP, 2.13 GAA, .921 SV% (KHL)

Carson Bjarnason 3 GP, 4.02 GAA, .892 SV% (WHL)

 

 

Farming is fun!!!

Edited October 9, 2023 by OccamsRazor

[GratefulFlyers]

So of the first 6 guys 5 are a point/game or better…not too shabby.

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

8 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

All the kids at once...

 

 

Flyers prospects point totals:

 

Matvei Michkov 11 GP, 5G, 7A (KHL)

Ryan MacPherson 6 GP, 6G, 2A (BCHL)

Massimo Rizzo 2 GP, 0G, 7A (NCAA)

Alex Ciernik 6 GP, 3G, 2A (SWE)

Denver Barkey 5 GP, 2G, 4A (OHL)

Carter Sotheran 3 GP, 1G, 2A (WHL)

Oliver Bonk 5 GP, 0G, 3A (OHL)

Cutter Gauthier 1 GP, 1G, 0A (NCAA)

Cole Knuble 2GP, 0G, 0A (NCAA)

Matteo Mann 0GP, 0G, 0A (QMJHL)

 

Goalies:

Yegor Zavragin 5 GP, 1.38 GAA, .958 SV% (MHL)

Alexei Kolosov 9 GP, 2.13 GAA, .921 SV% (KHL)

Carson Bjarnason 3 GP, 4.02 GAA, .892 SV% (WHL)

 

 

Farming is fun!!!

I hope all the to prospects have big years.

 

I also hope Laperriere gets fired soon. Gendron, Desnoyers and Wisdom all on different lines instead of playing together to develop chemistry. He really is a ****** doorknob who has no business coaching and developing players.

[pilldoc]

On Saturday (Oct. 7th) , Michkov played in his 10th game with Sochi, where he has accumulated 5 goals and 12 points. EliteProspects has him projected to finish the season with 32 goals and 70 points in just 64 games, which is absolutely unheard of for an 18-year-old in the KHL.

 

Michkov is currently 27th in the league with 12 points, but he has played anywhere between 3-4 games less than the rest of the players ahead of him with Nikolai Goldobin sitting atop of the league with 21 points in 16 games for Spartak Moscow. It’s safe to assume that the Flyers got a steal with their 7th overall pick.

 

On Saturday (Oct. 7th) , Michkov played in his 10th game with Sochi, where he has accumulated 5 goals and 12 points. EliteProspects has him projected to finish the season with 32 goals and 70 points in just 64 games, which is absolutely unheard of for an 18-year-old in the KHL.

 

Michkov is currently 27th in the league with 12 points, but he has played anywhere between 3-4 games less than the rest of the players ahead of him with Nikolai Goldobin sitting atop of the league with 21 points in 16 games for Spartak Moscow. It’s safe to assume that the Flyers got a steal with their 7th overall pick.

 

[OccamsRazor]

On 10/8/2023 at 8:06 AM, flyercanuck said:

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Alexander Appleyard

 

@avappleyard

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.@NHLFlyers Matvei Michkov went top 5 all-time today for @khl points before age 20 season...

1. Kucherov: 81 in 128 (0.63 P/GP)

2. Kaprizov: 77 in 133 (0.58)

3. Tarasenko: 53 in 122 (0.43)

4. Buchnevich: 50 in 100 (0.50)

5. Michkov: 37 in 54 (0.69) #Flyers #NHL #KHL

 

 

 

not mentioned is he leads in ppg.

 

 

Selke candidate inbound!!!!

 

 

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

5 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

Selke candidate inbound!!!!

 

 

 

He's gonna be a beauty when he gets here. He's Kaprizov with a chip on his shoulder.

 

However, the Flyers need to desperately hire an offensive minded assistant coach to start grooming him to takeover so that he and Michkov got the ground running. 

[OccamsRazor]

1 hour ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

He's gonna be a beauty when he gets here.

 

 

He's going to pair nicely with this guy to center him.

 

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

12 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

He's going to pair nicely with this guy to center him.

 

 

Unfortunately Gauthier will not be a center at the NHL level. Gotta agree with Meltzer on that. He's got left wing written all over him.

[flyercanuck]

14 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

Unfortunately Gauthier will not be a center at the NHL level. Gotta agree with Meltzer on that. He's got left wing written all over him.

 

I also might spread that goal scoring over 2 lines.

[radoran]

1 hour ago, flyercanuck said:

 

I also might spread that goal scoring over 2 lines.

 

Especially since they appear to want to develop Michkov as a center...

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

1 hour ago, flyercanuck said:

 

I also might spread that goal scoring over 2 lines.

That would be awesome. Gauthier and Brink on one line. Michkov and Farabee on another. 

[OccamsRazor]

2 hours ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

Unfortunately Gauthier will not be a center at the NHL level. Gotta agree with Meltzer on that. He's got left wing written all over him.

 

That's fine Cellebrini will slot nicely between him and MM.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

2 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

That's fine Cellebrini will slot nicely between him and MM.

 

I wish. It's probably Berkley Catton or if they go defense early, then Ryder Ritchie.

[OccamsRazor]

54 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

I wish. It's probably Berkley Catton or if they go defense early, then Ryder Ritchie.

 

Yeah I know just a pipe dream...

[flyercanuck]

4 hours ago, radoran said:

 

Especially since they appear to want to develop Michkov as a center...

 

 

Why don't they try developing Rasmus Ristolainen as a centre? When they ruin him, he'll be good. 

[flyercanuck]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/russia-matvei-michkov-historic-khl-pace-making-nhl-teams-who-passed-him-look-foolish-170312389.html

 

oller

·Contributing Writer

Sat, October 21, 2023 at 1:03 p.m. EDT·7 min read

 

 

 

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  Sidney Crosby

 

 

We’re less than four months removed from the 2023 NHL draft and the shine of last year's class hasn’t faded one bit.

The first overall selection, Connor Bedard, is already a game-breaker. The second-overall pick, Leo Carlsson, and third-overall pick, Adam Fantilli don’t look far off from becoming impact players this season. The 13th overall pick, Zach Benson, could very well spend the entire year in the NHL, too.

But far in the distance, the seventh overall selection, Matvei Michkov, is having an extraordinary season of his own in Russia — the type of season that reminds us why, in the years leading up to a highly anticipated 2023 class, prospect pundits dubbed it the “Bedard/Michkov” draft. It also leaves one to rethink how he slipped beyond the top five.

Michkov, 18, is tearing up the KHL right now.

Since being loaned to Sochi after dressing for just one game with SKA St. Petersburg, Michkov has recorded 14 points in 14 games and was just voted into the KHL All-Star game. According to EliteProspects.com, Michkov currently has the highest single-season point-per-game output of any U-20 KHL skater (minimum 10 games) since the 2008-09 season.

 

Matvei Michkov is off to quite the start in the KHL after being loaned to Sochi HC. (Photo by Maksim Konstantinov/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images)

At first glance, it’s fair to rebut that in the name of small sample size. However, if you combine his production this season with last year — when he recorded 20 points in 27 KHL games — Michkov ranks sixth in total U-20 KHL points per game (0.73).

None of this should come as a surprise, considering Michkov is a generational talent. Yes, you read that right. The 5-foot-10 winger is a tantalizing talent who possesses spectacular hands, an elite shot and an ability to score at will.

According to the HockeyProspecting.com model created by Byron Bader, players who produce at the rate Michkov did in his draft year have a 99 percent probability of becoming NHL stars.

With an NHLe of 56 in his draft year, Michkov is producing at a comparable clip to what Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Sidney Crosby, Auston Matthews and Jack Eichel did when they were draft-eligible.

However, it’s fair to wonder if the five teams that drafted after Chicago really missed the ball here. Even with the ‘Russian Factor’ being exacerbated in the aftermath of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, it’s pretty hard to reconcile Michkov slipping to seventh overall.

Notwithstanding the geopolitical factor, Russians slipping in the draft is nothing new.

The ‘Russian Factor’ has long been contemplated within NHL scouting circles. And it goes beyond the fact that oftentimes players like Michkov — whose KHL contract runs through the 2025-26 season — aren’t free to come over to North America until they’re 20 or 21. Newsflash: That’s when most players break into the NHL, anyway.

Historically, the reasoning behind the apprehension of drafting certain Russian prospects has to do with a lack of control over their development.

The KHL isn’t a prime development situation for prospects and it goes beyond the fact that young players don’t get optimal deployment like they would in junior, college or even the AHL. There’s a well-documented history of KHL teams displaying animosity towards NHL prospects.

It’s common to see prospects unjustifiably play scarce minutes in the KHL, or even get sent down to the Russian minor leagues — like what happened to Columbus Blue Jackets winger Kirill Marchenko — simply because of their NHL pedigree. Michkov experienced this at the beginning of his 2023-24 campaign when he started the year out with SKA St. Petersburg, a team with deep ties to Vladimir Putin.

Michkov was a healthy scratch for three of the teams’ first four games and logged just 6:12 TOI in the sole game he played. His coach, Roman Rottenberg, the son of a Russian Oligarch, had no previous coaching experience before becoming the club's coach.

There’s also always been a fear that it’ll be a challenge to get Russian players over to North America. Granted, this mainly applies to players who aren’t bonafide stars and could be asked to start in the AHL — where players earn a fraction of the salaries they’d make in the KHL, all the while undergoing a massive culture change. But given the war in Ukraine, the fear of Michkov being forced to remain in Russia beyond his current contract is legitimate.

In Russia, all men ages 18-27 are required to serve in the military unless they have an official exemption. The Russian government has leveraged this to help the KHL out before, with Flyers goalie prospect Ivan Fedotov being the most recent example. Two months after signing an entry-level contract with the Flyers in the summer of 2022, Fedotov was arrested by a SWAT team, detained on grounds of military evasion and promptly exiled to a military base in the far northwest corner of Russia. He missed the entire 2022-23 season before returning to CSKA Moscow, which is regarded as an extension of the Russian Army

Russian players are oftentimes unfairly labeled as “selfish.” It’s a dangerous and broad accusation to make and it discounts language barriers, culture differences and subconscious xenophobia that unquestionably taint the judgment of North American talent evaluators. Michkov’s personality had reportedly been a red flag in the scouting community, however, access to him was hard to come by this year.

Scouts tend to latch onto information they want to hear, and one has to wonder if those whispers fall in line with this. Especially when discussing an 18-year-old — particularly one considered the best Russian teenage talent in recent memory — the very notion of writing off a young player that may come across as “cocky” or “self-centered” is pretty shortsighted. Especially in a league where executives are able to see the good — or rather bypass the bad — when drafting players like Logan Mailloux or Mitchell Miller.

Now, the red flags surrounding Michkov weren’t totally ludicrous, but you have to wonder if they were alarming enough for teams like the Sharks, Canadiens or Coyotes to justify bypassing a potential superstar (we’ll give the Ducks and Blue Jackets a pass here, as Carlsson and Fantilli don't appear as far off in talent compared to Michkov).

Sure, Michkov may not have wanted to be drafted by one of, if not all of those teams — given that he reportedly made it known he preferred certain organizations over others — but if you’re one of those teams, don’t you have faith in being able to change his perception of your organization over the next three years, while he finishes his KHL contract? The Sharks and Coyotes each had two first-round picks, too, which makes their decisions to pass on Michkov all the more surprising. We’re talking about a player capable of being an MVP candidate one day. If they drafted him and were unable to change his mind four years later, they’d surely garner an attractive consolation price via the assets they’d receive in a trade.

The NHL draft is a crapshoot in and of itself, and opting for the “safer option” that high in the draft was unwise when a talent like Michkov is on the board.

[OccamsRazor]

@flyercanuck

 

Now can we just keeping him away from very fast driving sports cars?