Howie58 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) Greetings: The Isles are favorites (-148), under the assumption we've been overachievers: https://www.dimers.com/news/flyers-vs-islanders-prediction-and-odds-november-22-2023-45979 Historically, home advantage has made a big difference: https://flyershistory.com/cgi-bin/opponent.cgi?New_York_Islanders Writ large, this is a test of the Metro Division's pecking order. Are the Flyers moving up while the Pens, Isles, and Caps move south? TBD. Edited November 21, 2023 by Howie58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 For the last 6 years or so the Islanders were a bad match-up for the Flyers, particularly the Simmonds-less Giroux led teams. I'll be interested to see if the Isles still have the Flyers number. I think maybe the combination of fitness and the good-vibes in the room turns the tide. The Isles still have some really good defenseman. I'm curious about this game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I read somewhere this will be Clutterbuck's 1000th NHL game so he'll be extra-amped up. Marc Staal is back and may play tonight. Ristolainen is still out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, GratefulFlyers said: Ristolainen is still out. Funny how well the team plays without all Fletchers key acquisitions, innit? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Funny how well the team plays without all Fletchers key acquisitions, innit? Funny alright, in a sad, sad way. Fletcher’s big moves only helped the players he signed and his trading partners that’s it. The Flyers not so much. Once Ristolainen’s gone Fletcher’s stink will finally be off the team, all except for the picks he gave away to acquire those prize rejects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Marc Staal in lineup tonight, oh goodie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Samifan said: Marc Staal in lineup tonight, oh goodie. and immediately-1 after his first shift!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Hated that goal by Lee. I know he's big and strong, but geez. I think Carter and Z would want that back. Looks to me like the Flyers are quicker to transition and that's causing some problems for the. Isles; who should be better with that roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 yeah bad goal by Hart - Lee is a strong guy but Hart never sealed the post. Zamula could've done more there too - easy for me to say I know. So Sororkin beats the Flyers what else is new. He came in with a .944 Save % vs. the Flyers and it probably went up tonight. Still a good game - nice to see the refs stay out of it too. Win or lose it's great to see the Flyers competing like a real NHL team again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted November 23, 2023 Author Share Posted November 23, 2023 Lee and Brock Nelson scoring against us. So, what else is new? I didn't watch. But looking at shot totals, it appears the Isles caught us with the rope-a-dope, as usual....trench warfare they win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerdog Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 12 hours ago, mojo1917 said: Hated that goal by Lee. I know he's big and strong, but geez. I think Carter and Z would want that back. Looks to me like the Flyers are quicker to transition and that's causing some problems for the. Isles; who should be better with that roster. yeah, my thought as well...Z more so...he needs to tie up the player there and not give him free whacks at the puck....on that note...Z is still hot and cold...he will make a beautiful outlet pass, or use his body to box out a player...but then he will also make a poor decision with the puck and cause a turnover or miss and easy out of the zone... so he's at 50% where he needs to be IMO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 13 hours ago, GratefulFlyers said: yeah bad goal by Hart - Lee is a strong guy but Hart never sealed the post. Zamula could've done more there too - easy for me to say I know. So Sororkin beats the Flyers what else is new. He came in with a .944 Save % vs. the Flyers and it probably went up tonight. Still a good game - nice to see the refs stay out of it too. Win or lose it's great to see the Flyers competing like a real NHL team again. This is all I want...a team that competes, even if they lose. Not a bunch of slugs like Hayes and JVR cashing their ridiculous paychecks and never breaking a sweat. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 5 hours ago, flyercanuck said: This is all I want...a team that competes, even if they lose. Not a bunch of slugs like Hayes and JVR cashing their ridiculous paychecks and never breaking a sweat. Hhhhhmmmmmmm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 More smoke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Draisaitl + 1R for Hart. What no McDavid too? How do people come up with this stuff? I know they're going crazy in Edmonton but I didn't think they were this far gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, GratefulFlyers said: Draisaitl + 1R for Hart. What no McDavid too? How do people come up with this stuff? I know they're going crazy in Edmonton but I didn't think they were this far gone. What if it's the Flyers' first rounder going the other way? Still not saying it's a good idea on either side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, radoran said: What if it's the Flyers' first rounder going the other way? Still not saying it's a good idea on either side... From the multiple reports I have seen some of the leaks are just the start of a trade possibility more pieces can/will/could is all. But just like the leak Sanheim and Hayes deal we saw fall through this too may be coming from agents of these players just to maybe squash it even. Or it could all be false. I just post what I see. We'll just have to wait to watch it develop if it does. IMHO not ragging on anyone but Oilers just really don't have anything I'd want except their 2 centers they don't want to really move. But it seems with them something has to give. Stay tuned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, radoran said: What if it's the Flyers' first rounder going the other way? Still not saying it's a good idea on either side... ah right it could read that way too. I agree a bad deal either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 8 hours ago, GratefulFlyers said: ah right it could read that way too. I agree a bad deal either way. I really don't want to trade Hart right now. So many many more players I want to move before Carter Hart I'm will to let him mature and grow up with the Cup winning team in say 4 years. My whole biggest problem with trade him is DID WE NOT LEARN ANYTHING FROM TRADING BOB? Sorry don't mean to shout but it just hit me today and helped me articulate about him. I just move Cam and Laughton before him. Move Staal and Seeler before him. Trade Tippett and Hathaway before him. So many more move to be made before him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 No need to apologize - the way the Flyers handled Bobrovsky is a study in mismanagement. For all I know the Flyers are still paying Bryzgalov. Keep Tippett. Briere will be busy dealing Staal, Walker, Seeler and Atkinson. Hathaway if possible. But I would want a big (lopsided) return for a young, smooth-skating goal-scorer like Tippett. Tippett and TK, Farabee, Brink, Foerster are the guys I would build the offense around. And I wouldn't be quick to move Laughton. Every Cup team has a guy (or guys) the others rally around. They're not so easy to replace. Chemistry is everything. If he's as important to the Flyers as everybody says he is ... best keep him. He won't fetch much anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 38 minutes ago, GratefulFlyers said: Keep Tippett. But i ain't giving him more than what TK is making right now i ain't giving him 6-7 mill per season i just can't so if that is what he wants then he will be shipped out in my rebuild model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: But i ain't giving him more than what TK is making right now i ain't giving him 6-7 mill per season i just can't so if that is what he wants then he will be shipped out in my rebuild model. Agreed. Konecny brings much more than his numbers. Tippett deserves a raise of course but he shouldn't expect a huge-$$ deal. He had a good season last year but after all it was just 49 pts. Hopefully they all agree to a reasonable contract, something like 4 years/$20mil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Agree that Tippet should get less than TK. In fact, much less. Only 49 points last year & also one of the worse plus/minus players. And again this year one of the worse/plus minus players. Plus, he's a RFA, not a UFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, GratefulFlyers said: Agreed. Konecny brings much more than his numbers. This statement is why he should be the next Captain in Flyers history. Put a letter on his sweater Fonzie! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Evil Gritty is a quasi troll account. He's a funny, hot-take, mostly satire X account. If he's the source of any information, that could be considered news, it should definitely be confirmed by a few other sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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