phlfly Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Look at this spectacular dive by Sid, with his legs stretched a like a girl in figure skating before landing on soft place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 15 minutes ago, phlfly said: Look at this spectacular dive by Sid, with his legs stretched a like a girl in figure skating before landing on soft place Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlfly Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 Perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 13 hours ago, hf101 said: Fixed. A+ hf... that is funny as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Thank you for showing us the video of the penalty. I thought it a bit soft at first, saying it was 50/50... but you're blowup of the incident shows me the call was for the stick hooking the hands, not for pulling him down. Great review bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagerMeister Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Wow, what a rare phenomenon. I never thought an exemplary figure such as Mr Crosby would resort to such patent embellishing.... Yeah, I don't see how this is worthy of a thread. It's your typical embellishment, the perpetrator just happens to be Crosby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Fast fact, for five years running, the Flyers have had more power play opportunities than the Penguins. Does that mean they dive more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Fast fact 2, did you know that over the last five years, Claude Giroux has dove I mean had a better penalty differential than Crosby in four of those five years? (Differential is the number of penalties drawn minus the penalties against). Does this mean he dives more? Player Year Differential Player Year Differential Claude.Giroux 2015.16 13 Sidney.Crosby 2015.16 6 Claude.Giroux 2014.15 2 Sidney.Crosby 2014.15 7 Claude.Giroux 2013.14 9 Sidney.Crosby 2013.14 6 Claude.Giroux 2012.13 10 Sidney.Crosby 2012.13 9 Claude.Giroux 2011.12 14 Sidney.Crosby 2011.12 0 Stats from waronice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 The answer to the previous questions is no. But diving is in the eye of the rose colored glasses beholder, blurry pictures aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 1 hour ago, nossagog said: Fast fact, for five years running, the Flyers have had more power play opportunities than the Penguins. Does that mean they dive more? That, or they don't skate as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 But Hartnell is no longer on the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 1 hour ago, nossagog said: Fast fact, for five years running, the Flyers have had more power play opportunities than the Penguins. Does that mean they dive more? On phone, so quoting and answering fast fact 2 is proving difficult. If by "does Giroux dive more" you mean "does Giroux go down on cops more" the answer might be "yes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, pilldoc said: But Hartnell is no longer on the team! You know, his name actually went through my head, too. Funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 16 minutes ago, ruxpin said: On phone, so quoting and answering fast fact 2 is proving difficult. If by "does Giroux dive more" you mean "does Giroux go down on cops more" the answer might be "yes." Wow, even as a Pens fan I wasn't going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Fast Fact 3, Crosby's penalties drawn(we'll call it the Dive Factor since Sid is such a diver) is a whopping .9 per 60 this year. Meaning in 60 minutes of on ice time, he draws .9 penalties.(ranks 134 in penalties drawn in the NHL) Two flyers have the same Dive Factor: Sean Coutorier .9 Ranked 134th RJ Umberger .9 Ranked 134th Hey that's not too bad How many Flyers have a higher Dive Factor: Wayne Simmonds 1.4 Ranked 23rd Claude Giroux 1.4 Ranked 23rd Nick Cousins 1.1 Ranked 64th Mikel Raffl 1.1 Ranked 64th Ryan White 1.0 Ranked 100th Jacob Vorachek 1.0 Ranked 100th How can this be? WIth all the protection he gets, shouldn't Crosby's be higher than everyone in the history of hockey? Stats from Behind the Net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDevil Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Every player dives. It's just to what extent and how often they get caught that differs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 @nossagog i I think I love you. In a purely brotherhood kind of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 10 hours ago, nossagog said: Fast Fact 3, Crosby's penalties drawn(we'll call it the Dive Factor since Sid is such a diver) is a whopping .9 per 60 this year. Meaning in 60 minutes of on ice time, he draws .9 penalties.(ranks 134 in penalties drawn in the NHL) Two flyers have the same Dive Factor: Sean Coutorier .9 Ranked 134th RJ Umberger .9 Ranked 134th Hey that's not too bad How many Flyers have a higher Dive Factor: Wayne Simmonds 1.4 Ranked 23rd Claude Giroux 1.4 Ranked 23rd Nick Cousins 1.1 Ranked 64th Mikel Raffl 1.1 Ranked 64th Ryan White 1.0 Ranked 100th Jacob Vorachek 1.0 Ranked 100th How can this be? WIth all the protection he gets, shouldn't Crosby's be higher than everyone in the history of hockey? Stats from Behind the Net. I Googled Couturier dive and all I could come up with was someone named Amanda Couturier in the Bahamas on a reef. Wonder how many hits I get if I put in Crosby dive? Letang? Malkin? Or the guy really carrying the torch, but who honed his skill in Pitt...Neal? Divers may draw penalties...doesn't make guys who draw penalties divers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 2 hours ago, flyercanuck said: I Googled Couturier dive and all I could come up with was someone named Amanda Couturier in the Bahamas on a reef. Wonder how many hits I get if I put in Crosby dive? Letang? Malkin? Or the guy really carrying the torch, but who honed his skill in Pitt...Neal? Divers may draw penalties...doesn't make guys who dr Yes, and how many of those web gems are actual articles and how many are Zebruder photos like the above(which amusingly show actual penalties) or YouTube videos from homered fans who can't believe the Penguins could possible beat their mighty team without the help of the NHL. Just because some butt hurt fan posts a video and calls it a dive doesn't make it so. Show people facts to that show the Pens don't get favored and you will get a version of your response(argumentum absurdum in effect). "Well the penalties MY team drew were real penalties because MY players don't dive, the ones YOUR team drew were dives and the NHL wanting your team to win". Really, at his rate he draws only about 27 penalties over an 82 game season, from the way people respond you'd think he draws multiple penalties every game. Its just not the facts Are some of the penalties he draws weak, sure. Because we all know that the NHL officiating is probably the most inconsistent of any major sport. But just because its a weak call doesn't make it a dive either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 7 hours ago, Polaris922 said: @nossagog i I think I love you. In a purely brotherhood kind of way. You're scaring be bro, you're scaring me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 and I digress...the point of this whole thread is why???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 3 hours ago, flyercanuck said: I Googled Couturier dive and all I could come up with was someone named Amanda Couturier in the Bahamas on a reef. Wonder how many hits I get if I put in Crosby dive? Letang? Malkin? Or the guy really carrying the torch, but who honed his skill in Pitt...Neal? Divers may draw penalties...doesn't make guys who draw penalties divers. All that means is that Flyers fans have a lot more free time to view each and every Pens game frame by frame looking for "dives" then posting videos to You Tube. Pens fans are busy with other things...like eating pierogies and wondering if Root Sports will ever wise up and put Mike Lange back on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 16 minutes ago, pilldoc said: and I digress...the point of this whole thread is why???? Someone was trolling (see OP). Posted the same in a random thread over in Pens land which the mod (to their credit) quickly removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 14 hours ago, Polaris922 said: @nossagog i I think I love you. In a purely brotherhood kind of way. So, a Philadelphia kind of way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 7 hours ago, pilldoc said: and I digress...the point of this whole thread is why???? Wait...there has to be a point? Well...I'm out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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