RonJeremy Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Let's say Colorado made that offer do you think it's a good move for Flyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Hmm. Maybe. We get a young top line player, and can still pick up Glass or Vilardi. I'd definitely think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmatus Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 It seems like a decent deal. That said, Landeskog seems to be a 50pt per year guy on average so far (after five seasons). That's not bad of course, but no.2 could end up better. Still, it would be an interesting proposition anyway. I have a very hard imagining they'd ever offer that though. That's trading a 2nd for a 2nd and giving up a 4th for free. Seems quite unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 That's my thought , it's like a 2 for 1, we get two great young players and a left wing for Giroux. Plus it helps the team rebuild quicker by us adding 2 players instead of one. They say Nico and Patrick are close to NHL ready,are any other guys close as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 My other thought is the Flyers like to go against common thought in the draft sometimes, like when we took Morin and Sanheim over other more highly rated players . Vilardi could become a force and there's also a big scoring winger Tippett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 Sorry not Tippett, I think he was last year, it's Rasmussen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheslot Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 close to a 6 mil cap hit ......I D K . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam1986 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Put who do the Flyers trade ? Cause we need to dump money!! If this trade went down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 If Hischier is on the board when the Flyers pick, no. If Patrick is on the table, I'd strongly consider. I know scouts are high on Patrick, but Cody Glass had as good a 17 year old season as Patrick did and dare I say it, Glass had just as good a year as Hischier did. Add in Landeskog and that's a very good addition to the Flyers. It also means a few guys are going to need to be moved to bring Landeskog onboard. Ideally, the Flyers would need to jettison Raffl, Read and MacDonald. You'd also have a lineup as follows: Landeskog - Giroux - Voracek Konecny - Couturier - Schenn Lindblom - Glass/Filppula - Simmonds Weal - Laughton/Filppula - Weise That's quite the line up. I don't know if Glass makes the team this year, but he certainly wouldn't be far off. He tested incredibly well at the combine that really, there isn't that big a gap between Patrick, Hischier and Glass. Yeah, I think this kind of move is something the Flyers should consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yave1964 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Landeskog has regressed almost every year and has an albatross of a contract hanging over his head, between 6 and 6.5 million thru 2021. I know that Sakic keeps saying that he wont trade him unless he gets a kings ransom for him which may be bluster, anyone willing to give much of anything for such an overpriced winger would be taking a huge risk. His point production the last four years has went 65, 59,53,33 I personally would not want to find out what comes next with that contract. Puff puff pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 OK here it goes. How about Voracek, Couturier, the #2 pick and next year's 2nd rounder, and Hagg for Landeskog and Duchene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Nevermind my last post. It doesn't work salary wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmatus Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, FD19372 said: OK here it goes. How about Voracek, Couturier, the #2 pick and next year's 2nd rounder, and Hagg for Landeskog and Duchene? Not sure if serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 no fkn way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, FD19372 said: Nevermind my last post. It doesn't work salary wise. I wouldn't do that trade with monopoly money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 2 hours ago, elmatus said: Not sure if serious... I wasn't really, but I don't want to see Duchene go to Pittsburgh, either, which is rumored. I won't do it in all seriousness because I don't want to trade the #2 pick (besides the fact that the salaries don't work to begin with). What are your reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 No way.. Landeskog is not worth it... Nice player but not a game.e changer. No question - bad trade for the Flyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmatus Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 11 hours ago, FD19372 said: OK here it goes. How about Voracek, Couturier, the #2 pick and next year's 2nd rounder, and Hagg for Landeskog and Duchene? Landeskog and Couts are both young. To date, Landeskog scores about 10pts per year more than Couts. Couts however is a far better defensive player. I'd consider the two a wash. Voracek and Duchene are very similar players in many ways. They play very similarly and have about the same level of production. I don't think Duchene would bring anything Voracek doesn't already. Upto that point, i could understand the proposal. I'd have to think it over, but i'd understand it. It would be assuming Landeskog'a presence on the LW is more of what we need than a responsible 2C. Add no.2, another pick, and Hagg to that? Non merci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 No way. I would trade Coots for Landeskog straight up about it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Since we're being goofy with trade suggestions (no offense intended. Sometimes it's a fun time killer). I've been throwing this around: To the Isles: Giroux, PHI #2 overall, Hagg To the Flyers: Tavares, NYI 2018 1st rnd If we're really being saucy, we could throw in Macdonald and Halak. I'm not a fan of trading our #2. But I'm tired of watching Giroux and I don't think Tavares /Giroux happens without the #2. It may work without Hagg, but I don't think so. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmatus Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 2 hours ago, ruxpin said: Since we're being goofy with trade suggestions (no offense intended. Sometimes it's a fun time killer). I've been throwing this around: To the Isles: Giroux, PHI #2 overall, Hagg To the Flyers: Tavares, NYI 2018 1st rnd If we're really being saucy, we could throw in Macdonald and Halak. I'm not a fan of trading our #2. But I'm tired of watching Giroux and I don't think Tavares /Giroux happens without the #2. It may work without Hagg, but I don't think so. Thoughts? I can see where you're coming from. There's a pretty good chance that 2018 ends up being pretty high. I'm not sure it'll be a no.2, but it'll likely be a high one. I'm not sure Tavares is that much better than Giroux though. I think he is better, but I don't think he's Giroux + Hagg + no.2 better. That's pretty steep. I can absolutely see Giroux being traded at some point in the next few years. Imo, that should happen following a good year though, not a bad one. He had a rough year this past season. If we trade him now, we would almost certainly end up on the losing side of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 2 hours ago, ruxpin said: Since we're being goofy with trade suggestions (no offense intended. Sometimes it's a fun time killer). I've been throwing this around: To the Isles: Giroux, PHI #2 overall, Hagg To the Flyers: Tavares, NYI 2018 1st rnd If we're really being saucy, we could throw in Macdonald and Halak. I'm not a fan of trading our #2. But I'm tired of watching Giroux and I don't think Tavares /Giroux happens without the #2. It may work without Hagg, but I don't think so. Thoughts? Why not go all the way in.... Let's trade our entire roster and coaching staff to the Predators in return we get their entire roster and coaching staff - then flip Subban, 3 firsts and Ghost for Crosby!!! #winning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, elmatus said: I'm not sure Tavares is that much better than Giroux though. I think he is better, but I don't think he's Giroux + Hagg + no.2 better. That's pretty steep. I tend to agree (not just "tend to"). I think given that franchise's situation and the fact he's been the face for the last several years, it would take an overpayment. I think Hagg gets you into that overpayment territory. But the deal with Hagg without the picks doesn't make it worth it for anyone and I'm not trading our #2 for anything other than their 1st rounder next year. Honestly asking, does that deal get done (if you're NYI) without Hagg? Or maybe something instead of Hagg. Wonder if MacDonald. LOL I'm actually in favor of just picking at #2, to be honest. But just wondering how to move from Giroux while there's still some value. I agree it would be better to do do it following a "good year," but I'm losing a little confidence that we're going to see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, murraycraven said: Why not go all the way in.... Let's trade our entire roster and coaching staff to the Predators in return we get their entire roster and coaching staff - then flip Subban, 3 firsts and Ghost for Crosby!!! #winning! Bite me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Just now, ruxpin said: Bite me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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