FD19372 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 41 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Why would Giroux want to go to Vancouver? I mean it's a beautiful location, but.... He can retire there at the end of next season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, FD19372 said: He can retire there at the end of next season? The Flyers will re-sign Giroux. I'm thinking 4-6 years at ~$6M per. I'd put hard money on the first part. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, radoran said: The Flyers will re-sign Giroux. I'm thinking 4-6 years at ~$6M per. I'd put hard money on the first part. ...because, Flyers management. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, FD19372 said: ...because, Flyers management. You'll hear how overjoyed they are that he took a hometown discount to retire a Flyer. May even put him into the Hall of Fame before he stops playing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, radoran said: You'll hear how overjoyed they are that he took a hometown discount to retire a Flyer. May even put him into the Hall of Fame before he stops playing. Haysee goes in first though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizz Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 The problem with AV is his style of coaching just doesn't work in this new NHL and he flat out refuses to change or adapt. The opposition coaches have seen his game plan this year and adapting to play the Flyers but AV wont change his game plan. Hell if Hart wasn't standing on his head some games the record would look a lot worse. AV's coaching philosophy has come and gone.......and don't even get me started on the clown show that are his assistant coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 hours ago, flyercanuck said: Haysee goes in first though. They did a double day for JLC and his sidekick, Lindros... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Fizz said: The problem with AV is his style of coaching just doesn't work in this new NHL and he flat out refuses to change or adapt. He's been to the Final twice as a coach since the lockout and the Flyers won their first round of playoffs in about a decade in his first season as coach two seasons ago. When did this new era of NHL hockey start? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, radoran said: He's been to the Final twice as a coach since the lockout and the Flyers won their first round of playoffs in about a decade in his first season as coach two seasons ago. When did this new era of NHL hockey start? It was three weeks ago. It was a Tuesday... No wait, I think it was Wednesday. Maybe Monday. I know it was raining. I forget what I was watching but I know it wasn't the Flyers because they suck and watching Sesame Street in Bengali is much more enjoyable. Anyway, I know it was three weeks ago. #AmIright? Edited November 28, 2021 by ruxpin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: but I know it wasn't the Flyers because they suck and watching a lobotomy performed in Bengali would be more enjoyable. Fixed it for ya. While you're in Bengali, check out their line of 2020-2021 Philadelphia Flyers Stanley Cup champion apparel. Edited November 28, 2021 by FD19372 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrittyForever Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 7 hours ago, radoran said: I'm no AV acolyte, but the guy has been further in the playoffs than most coaches. They've tried experience, they've tried first timers, they've now tried a two time Cup Finalist. WHO IS IT that finally gets this team to put it all together? I'm not sure that guy exists because I'm not convinced that this team is a coaching change away from competiveness... Arguably he took talented teams to the final that should have won the final. I personally think he has been overrated for his whole career. Unless you want to gut the roster and start all over from scratch I think given the players on the roster we need to open it up and play a more attacking aggressive offensively driven style. We'd surrender more goals and rely on the goalies a lot but presumably also score more. Players on this roster are more suited to that I think. It's also time to play kids over veterans who aren't getting it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, GrittyForever said: I personally think he has been overrated for his whole career. I am not the first in line to disagree. 46 minutes ago, GrittyForever said: Unless you want to gut the roster and start all over from scratch I think given the players on the roster we need to open it up and play a more attacking aggressive offensively driven style. I agree with both ideas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizz Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 hours ago, radoran said: He's been to the Final twice as a coach since the lockout and the Flyers won their first round of playoffs in about a decade in his first season as coach two seasons ago. When did this new era of NHL hockey start? Laugh and make fun of me all you want. Deep down you know I'm right and you just wont admit it. Keep the orange glasses on and maybe just maybe they will luck into the playoffs and get hot and win the cup......not!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizz Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 hours ago, ruxpin said: It was three weeks ago. It was a Tuesday... No wait, I think it was Wednesday. Maybe Monday. I know it was raining. I forget what I was watching but I know it wasn't the Flyers because they suck and watching Sesame Street in Bengali is much more enjoyable. Anyway, I know it was three weeks ago. #AmIright? Laugh and make fun of me all you want. Deep down you know I'm right and you just wont admit it. Keep the orange glasses on and maybe just maybe they will luck into the playoffs and get hot and win the cup......not!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fizz said: Laugh and make fun of me all you want. Deep down you know I'm right and you just wont admit it. Keep the orange glasses on and maybe just maybe they will luck into the playoffs and get hot and win the cup......not!! Yeah, I'm a stepford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Fizz said: Deep down you know I'm right Not sure I'm allowed to say what I think you are deep down 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 21 hours ago, mojo1917 said: And as you said goaltending not being the worst in the league and guys that had rough 20/21 seasons bouncing back for 21/22 even just reverting to the mean, it was a legitimate playoff team. Keep telling yourself that. I mean no one can prove you wrong. But plenty of people said that even if all these things happen they were no better than the teams over the last decade that made the playoffs and never showed anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 10 hours ago, GrittyForever said: Unless you want to gut the roster and start all over from scratch I think given the players on the roster we need to open it up and play a more attacking aggressive offensively driven style. We'd surrender more goals and rely on the goalies a lot but presumably also score more. Players on this roster are more suited to that I think. So they loose 5-3 instead of 2-1. Sounds exciting. I want to gut management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 56 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said: I want to gut management. Clearly this is where the issue lies. And not Fletcher--he's a symptom. Start with the guy who inexplicably was just inserted into the Flyers Hall of Douchebaggery. Then the rest of the ancient remnants of the Library of Skulls: Clarke, Barber, Dave Scott for starters. Why couldn't the Red Sox have bought the Flyers? Because the other thing on my wishlist is the crashing and burning of Comcast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucson83 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, ruxpin said: Clearly this is where the issue lies. And not Fletcher--he's a symptom. Start with the guy who inexplicably was just inserted into the Flyers Hall of Douchebaggery. Then the rest of the ancient remnants of the Library of Skulls: Clarke, Barber, Dave Scott for starters. Why couldn't the Red Sox have bought the Flyers? Because the other thing on my wishlist is the crashing and burning of Comcast. this grit and grind style is the reason why this team is bad, it's not working anymore, you look at the kings and islanders they are grit and grind teams and they are falling apart. it's not the gms are bad, it's the styles that arent working anymore. more teams are taking skill over grit. until we have more skill players, we arent going to be successful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Its not the coach. There is no leadership. Off ice, the management leadership group are old dinosaurs and shareholders. On ice leadership are honey badgers. They don't give a ****. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucson83 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, flyer4ever said: Its not the coach. There is no leadership. Off ice, the management leadership group are old dinosaurs and shareholders. On ice leadership are honey badgers. They don't give a ****. im going to throw this pipedream lineup what do you think forsberg, hertl, tarasenko? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrittyForever Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 hours ago, tucson83 said: this grit and grind style is the reason why this team is bad, it's not working anymore, you look at the kings and islanders they are grit and grind teams and they are falling apart. it's not the gms are bad, it's the styles that arent working anymore. more teams are taking skill over grit. until we have more skill players, we arent going to be successful. I think this is only partly true. It's not about skill over grit but about balance. You need skill, for sure, and the times have changed, but without grit you exit the playoffs early (think Toronto). Tampa had skill but didn't win in the playoffs until they added a pile of grit. You need both. Power forwards are still what you want with your skilled playmaker. Balance. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevluk Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 8:13 AM, radoran said: And we can agree to differ, but I still don't see Mr. Not All His Fault as some great leader - and my perspective is only his entire career as captain. Yes, players in his room and on his roster say they like him and he's a leader but they haven't won much of anything under his leadership. I have said it here many times - the Flyers will never win a Cup with Captain Zero. Good player, zero leadership. Worst long term captain in team history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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