hmc687 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Addition by subtraction. Hayes is a decent 3C who was being paid like a 1/2C. If he wasnt good in the lockerroom for work ethic or attitude or whatever then yeah, he's got to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, hmc687 said: Addition by subtraction. Hayes is a decent 3C who was being paid like a 1/2C. If he wasnt good in the lockerroom for work ethic or attitude or whatever then yeah, he's got to go And go he did. Buh-bye Dude is a turd! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, hmc687 said: Hayes is a decent 3C who was being paid like a 1/2C. He isn't now you're welcome Blues...we'll have the last laugh i'm sure. Glad he is gone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrittyForever Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Saw this on NHL.com and laughed my ### off. i think St. Louis is gonna have the blues rather than being them. https://www.nhl.com/news/st-louis-blues-roster-changes-for-2023-24-season/c-345342482?tid=281151520 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, GrittyForever said: Saw this on NHL.com and laughed my ### off. i think St. Louis is gonna have the blues rather than being them. https://www.nhl.com/news/st-louis-blues-roster-changes-for-2023-24-season/c-345342482?tid=281151520 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: Bolduc is an excellent center prospect. To block him at 3C to accommodate Hayes is truly laughable! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, jammer2 said: Bolduc is an excellent center prospect. To block him at 3C to accommodate Hayes is truly laughable! I know some of us were dreaming of getting him in the return for the Hayes/Sanheim trade that never transpired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrittyForever Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said: Oh you and I both know you will be laughing and loving it when he craps out in St. Louis. (same way Sabres fans laugh about Risto in Philly) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 6 hours ago, GrittyForever said: Oh you and I both know you will be laughing and loving it when he craps out in St. Louis. (same way Sabres fans laugh about Risto in Philly) The Sabres fan on this board actually thinks Ristolainen is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 hours ago, flyercanuck said: The Sabres fan on this board actually thinks Ristolainen is good. There is a zero% chance the player will be able to do anything to change anyone's mind about his value either. He was not the 3rd worst in the league at defense last year. That guy was a couple of stalls down from him in the locker room. Like Sanheim I think with some stability with his coaching staff Risto can improve. It happened last season, it may turn out he becomes a great bottom pairing player and a middling middle 4 player. He is currently paid like a middle 4 player- I don't think that value is out of reach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, mojo1917 said: There is a zero% chance the player will be able to do anything to change anyone's mind about his value either. He was not the 3rd worst in the league at defense last year. That guy was a couple of stalls down from him in the locker room. Like Sanheim I think with some stability with his coaching staff Risto can improve. It happened last season, it may turn out he becomes a great bottom pairing player and a middling middle 4 player. He is currently paid like a middle 4 player- I don't think that value is out of reach. Ristolainens problem is he's dumb as a post. He's actually got everything else you'd want in a defenceman, he just has no clue what he's doing. I guess if they can keep it simple for him they can hide the fact. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Ristolainens problem is he's dumb as a post. Now no need to go out and bad mouth a post like that - uncalled for. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, mojo1917 said: There is a zero% chance the player will be able to do anything to change anyone's mind about his value either. Well when we all agree his "value" isn't: Gotstobethere Haag 1st 2 2nd 7th And that we're basically hoping that they can get some semblance of good play from a guy who's signed at $5+M for four more years. I think we're pretty much on the same page about his "value". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrittyForever Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 5 hours ago, mojo1917 said: There is a zero% chance the player will be able to do anything to change anyone's mind about his value either. He was not the 3rd worst in the league at defense last year. That guy was a couple of stalls down from him in the locker room. Like Sanheim I think with some stability with his coaching staff Risto can improve. It happened last season, it may turn out he becomes a great bottom pairing player and a middling middle 4 player. He is currently paid like a middle 4 player- I don't think that value is out of reach. This is pretty much what he can be so I agree, just keep him as an overpaid bottom end guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 3 hours ago, radoran said: Well when we all agree his "value" isn't: Gotstobethere Haag 1st 2 2nd 7th I keep forgetting about the webster's dictionary definition of fool's ransom used to acquire him. When I do, I feel sad. He will never be worth all that. But! he may wind up not being the worst contract in the NHL which is my hope for the player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: When I do, I feel sad. I used to have to go through years of transactions to show how they turned Prospal and the pick that became Briere into Adam Burt. This is so succinct it's amazing. 23 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: he may wind up not being the worst contract in the NHL which is my hope for the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 11 hours ago, flyercanuck said: Ristolainens problem is he's dumb as a post. He's actually got everything else you'd want in a defenceman, he just has no clue what he's doing. I guess if they can keep it simple for him they can hide the fact. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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