radoran Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 5 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: what does Ersson want for his next contract? He's already signed for $1.4M per for the next two... 1 minute ago, flyercanuck said: Actually, 30th in SV% and 17th in GAA. He's maybe backup NHL material, making over $6 million for 2 years on a supposed rebuilding team. Actually, those were his numbers in his 1-4 stint during the KHL playoffs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, radoran said: He's already signed for $1.4M per for the next two... Actually, those were his numbers in his 1-4 stint during the KHL playoffs... https://www.quanthockey.com/khl/seasons/khl-goalies-stats.html https://www.quanthockey.com/khl/seasons/khl-goalies-stats.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: https://www.quanthockey.com/khl/seasons/khl-goalies-stats.html https://www.quanthockey.com/khl/seasons/khl-goalies-stats.html Yeah, I quoted my sources, acknowledged my playoff/regular season mistake, and posted new numbers earlier in the thread, thanks. Actual KHL site stats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ctid said: It doesn't really hurt us, cap wise, but doesn't it set precedence for others low to mid level guys who now wants above that? THIS!!! I know Kolosov has to be nodding and licking his lips after that contract!!! Edited April 23 by OccamsRazor fix boo boo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) I watched the PHLY dudes and dudette over lunch. O'Connor and Bill said: 1. It implies that next year is not necessarily a playoff year, and the Brass doesn't care. If they did, entering with this tandem makes no sense. 2. An interesting question, with Sandstrom gone and Petersen rotting in the AHL, is the third-in-line? My take is that Kolosov might fit that bill. 3. The salary seems absurd. 4. Translating KHL to NHL stats is tough. The save percentage in the KHL is considerably higher given lower caliber of play. 5. Carter Hart is out of the picture for good. Edited April 23 by Howie58 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, OccamsRazor said: THIS!!! I know Kolosov has to be nodding and lacking his lips after that contract!!! Everyone on the team should be. Heck DesLauriers should be demanding a raise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, flyercanuck said: Everyone on the team should be. Heck DesLauriers should be demanding a raise. I'm going to be out of likes on this thread alone today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 4 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: I know Kolosov has to be nodding and licking his lips after that contract!!! He has his three year entry level deal to get through before he gets to taste it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, OccamsRazor said: I'm going to be out of likes on this thread alone today I tried looking up where he ranks in NHL goalies...but it only went down to 65 goalies in both SV% and GAA and he's way below that. I could put up worse stats than that for half that money! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 4 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: I could put up worse stats than that for half that money! There was once a goalie that was 3.02/.899 in the regular season and 8.11/.722 in the playoffs... ... the year before Homer traded Sergei Bobrovsky. He then put up 1.94/.932 in the KHL and 2.00/.922 in the NHL the next year. He's now a two time Vezina winner backstopping a Cup favorite this year. Can you do that for half the money? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 36 minutes ago, radoran said: He has his three year entry level deal to get through before he gets to taste it. Should be a more reasonable bridge deal in there too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 30 minutes ago, radoran said: There was once a goalie that was 3.02/.899 in the regular season and 8.11/.722 in the playoffs... ... the year before Homer traded Sergei Bobrovsky. He then put up 1.94/.932 in the KHL and 2.00/.922 in the NHL the next year. He's now a two time Vezina winner backstopping a Cup favorite this year. Can you do that for half the money? Hard to compare a 22 year old to a 27 year old too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 7 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: Hard to compare a 22 year old to a 27 year old too. No it isn't. I just did it. I think the contract is a significant overpayment. I'll see how Fedotov does and if he's Petersen-level then we've got a tank on our hands! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 I don't like the cap hit. But I ask the question again--is there something here we don't know about related to his "escape" from Mother Russia? Putin is corrupt. Would we know if there isn't diverted money, or money paid to an agent that ends up in the Former Soviet Union? Sam can't feel very good about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 You know what? It's $3.25 million bucks. In the grand scheme of things, it's less than 4% of the salary cap. Besides, Fedotov basically came over, got thrown to the wolves while his life was in complete upheaval and probably experiencing serious culture shock. A full off-season of being around a number of the players and staying in the area will do him a world of good. I expect a completely different player when training camp rolls around. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 Just now, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: You know what? It's $3.25 million bucks. In the grand scheme of things, it's less than 4% of the salary cap. Besides, Fedotov basically came over, got thrown to the wolves while his life was in complete upheaval and probably experiencing serious culture shock. A full off-season of being around a number of the players and staying in the area will do him a world of good. I expect a completely different player when training camp rolls around. And at the end of the day we can't do a damn thing about it It is what it is 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, radoran said: There was once a goalie that was 3.02/.899 in the regular season and 8.11/.722 in the playoffs... ... the year before Homer traded Sergei Bobrovsky. He then put up 1.94/.932 in the KHL and 2.00/.922 in the NHL the next year. He's now a two time Vezina winner backstopping a Cup favorite this year. Can you do that for half the money? Like I said, I can put up worse stats for half the money. I'll stand by my word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, OccamsRazor said: And at the end of the day we can't do a damn thing about it It is what it is Exactly. Considering that the flyers are paying Petersen $5 million, they're paying Atkinson $5+ million (I know, Columbus signed him to the deal), they're paying Ristolainen $5.1 million, this really is a drop in the bucket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 What were his stats before he was sent off to Siberia and forced to stay in Russia to play for another year. Maybe he didn’t give it his all over there hoping he could get out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: Exactly. Considering that the flyers are paying Petersen $5 million, they're paying Atkinson $5+ million (I know, Columbus signed him to the deal), they're paying Ristolainen $5.1 million, this really is a drop in the bucket. Yes it was already done just spending 2 million more on goaltending in a rebuild when the 2 mill could have been used to take on a bad contract for assets well I'm not happy with. But we aren't the GM. Some here just can't handle others opinions on it. I really really hope it all works out they win a Cup. I will personally let @radoran cut my slice of crow as long as he has some good bourbon to wash it down with. Sorry if being a fan since 1991 has jaded me. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 19 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: Exactly. Considering that the flyers are paying Petersen $5 million, they're paying Atkinson $5+ million (I know, Columbus signed him to the deal), they're paying Ristolainen $5.1 million, this really is a drop in the bucket. Well, it would be nice if ONE OF THESE DAYS, the GM of our team would STOP overpaying players who haven't earned it. I mean sure, one million here, 2 million there, $500,000 over there....it's all peanuts. Until you realize the Flyers are paying Connor McDavids salary in overpayment. Ok, that was a little over the top, but you get the point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 26 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: Exactly. Considering that the flyers are paying Petersen $5 million, they're paying Atkinson $5+ million (I know, Columbus signed him to the deal), they're paying Ristolainen $5.1 million, this really is a drop in the bucket. Don't forget we are also paying 4 million to Johansen too. Is Bernie Madoff managing our salary cap? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, RonJeremy said: Don't forget we are also paying 4 million to Johansen too. Is Bernie Madoff managing our salary cap? Right....we ARE paying Connor McDavids salary for nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Okay, honest question. I'm interested in opinions. Obviously the NHL rink is smaller than over there. Setting aside the possibility that the difference in angles plus nerves didn't help him in his one game. Considering his size does the NHL ice size hurt him, help him, or not relevant? Especially in situations in which the opponent has the zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 6 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: In my rebuild that is 2 mill per too much. 2mill they could have used to take on assets for picks or prospects later. If this was a push for the playoffs maybe just maybe this would make some sense but it's a rebuild - but oh wait nevermind. You keep making my points for me, lol. What's this world coming to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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